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You want a scary corollary?

Satt did not seem to be a ball-buster with his offense. A baby boomer comes in who gives zero shits about anyone's feelings, and BOOM! instant improvement.

Here's the corollary that should scare all of us: in the military basic training DI's would scream, insult and harass recruits to make them willing to charge up a hill under fire. Not now. In basic/boot, the recruits are able to report a DI who is demeaning to them, and the DI gets counseled and told to back off. God help us all.
Ummm. DH is 53...That's Gen X buddy. Boomers don't hold a candle to us bad asses.

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I have more faith that McGuire can learn to be a good OC. Than Satt.
I've posted this before, but I listened to a former NFL head coach comment on why coordinators kept getting recycled after being fired from jobs. He said, "calling plays is a unique talent that few coaches have" so guys who can do it get rehired. When you get to the NFL level there's quite a few who can do it, but they don't all have the same weapons as the other guys. In college there's a lot of guys who are calling plays that are just calling plays. Osborne was manipulating the defense with his play calling.
 
You want a scary corollary?

Satt did not seem to be a ball-buster with his offense. A baby boomer comes in who gives zero shits about anyone's feelings, and BOOM! instant improvement.

Here's the corollary that should scare all of us: in the military basic training DI's would scream, insult and harass recruits to make them willing to charge up a hill under fire. Not now. In basic/boot, the recruits are able to report a DI who is demeaning to them, and the DI gets counseled and told to back off. God help us all.
Holgerson is GenX.
 
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Usually you would babysit the GA's, not the position coach.
Probably true, but if you have a guy who has relationships with our WR recruits and current roster AND he now knows how you want them coached, it might be okay to keep him on board. I'm not invested in him staying or going. I'm just offering a different view.
 
What a calming influence DH has been to our fanbase.

WR coach had to go. RB too. OL can go to, since DR may not be all that.

Now it’s like, if DH is cool with it, then I am too.
 
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For next season, the TE group will have Flint and Ingwerson added to the mix. WRs will hopefully add Bell from his injuries, along with Hall, McMorris, Lloyd, Keelan, Jacory, plus maybe a portal WR or two.
I do like the potential, especially if we keep Holgorsen.

after the bowl game the primary focus should be in retaining DH and giving him whatever he wants. Frankly, we can’t afford to lose him… as some have mentioned, I don’t know if we will get so lucky the next time around
It’s less about what Holgerson wants, as anything NU pays Houston doesn’t. It’s really more about wants to do. Given the young talent, NU has a good chance of keeping him in Lincoln should he want to go big conference OC to re-enter the coaching ranks. They wanted him out of WVU a couple of years before he left, and Houston was a flame out for him. He probably isn’t a big program HC.
 
Probably true, but if you have a guy who has relationships with our WR recruits and current roster AND he now knows how you want them coached, it might be okay to keep him on board. I'm not invested in him staying or going. I'm just offering a different view.
Garrett let Neyor and Banks dominate the playing time without expectation of sharp routes and blocking on the perimeter. In steps DH, and that changes in two weeks. We need a real coach there, not a cheerleader.

When you tell them if you don't block, you don't play. Exhibit A. Thomas Fidone.
 
Garrett let Neyor and Banks dominate the playing time without expectation of sharp routes and blocking on the perimeter. In steps DH, and that changes in two weeks. We need a real coach there, not a cheerleader.

When you tell them if you don't block, you don't play. Exhibit A. Thomas Fidone.

On a related note. I thought Banks blocked his ass off on Saturday.

Here's a good example.
 
On a related note. I thought Banks blocked his ass off on Saturday.

Here's a good example.
Apparently Banks likes to play. LOL

Even when they don't make that great block, there will always be something to say about giving a maximum effort. DH is instilling the right frame of mind.

Unrelated, but even on that early swing pass to Jacori, Scott at Center fires off the ball and just misses blocking the LB on the backside, but continues to sprint upfield and still become part of the play. We haven't seen that kind of effort in forever. It's a mindset now.
 
Apparently Banks likes to play. LOL

Even when they don't make that great block, there will always be something to say about giving a maximum effort. DH is instilling the right frame of mind.

Unrelated, but even on that early swing pass to Jacori, Scott at Center fires off the ball and just misses blocking the LB on the backside, but continues to sprint upfield and still become part of the play. We haven't seen that kind of effort in forever. It's a mindset now.

Check our EJ's effort on that same play. This was the play after he had a long run on the screen pass.
 
It’s less about what Holgerson wants, as anything NU pays Houston doesn’t. It’s really more about wants to do. Given the young talent, NU has a good chance of keeping him in Lincoln should he want to go big conference OC to re-enter the coaching ranks. They wanted him out of WVU a couple of years before he left, and Houston was a flame out for him. He probably isn’t a big program HC.
He seems like a guy that goes balls to the walls weeks on end and then crashes. We need to give him plenty of time to decompress at strategic times during the year to avoid burnout. JMO.
 
Garrett let Neyor and Banks dominate the playing time without expectation of sharp routes and blocking on the perimeter. In steps DH, and that changes in two weeks. We need a real coach there, not a cheerleader.

When you tell them if you don't block, you don't play. Exhibit A. Thomas Fidone.
Not disagreeing. I’m just saying that the new OC has set the standard now and he may like how our WR coach and his charges have responded to his demands. There’s lots of employers who are happy employing young people willing to accept how they want things done (me for one). The worst professional I ever hired was a guy with a doctorate who played guard for the ISU football team. He had been out of school a for about 5 years and thought he knew everything and could do whatever he wanted. Awful. He cost me tens of thousands of dollars. His wife who also worked for me finally said they had to quit because she couldn’t work with him…. He was an imbecile.
 
Not disagreeing. I’m just saying that the new OC has set the standard now and he may like how our WR coach and his charges have responded to his demands. There’s lots of employers who are happy employing young people willing to accept how they want things done (me for one). The worst professional I ever hired was a guy with a doctorate who played guard for the ISU football team. He had been out of school a for about 5 years and thought he knew everything and could do whatever he wanted. Awful. He cost me tens of thousands of dollars. His wife who also worked for me finally said they had to quit because she couldn’t work with him…. He was an imbecile.
Sounds like he was overeducated for his intelligence.

Those who think they know everything, are annoying to those of us who do.
 
Bolded. I've been thinking of this. IF/When DH moves on, does Rhule's rolodex come up with someone comparable, or a Satt clone? Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Make Dana the highest paid offensive assistant in college football and we make that decision a lot harder and perhaps hold off the desire for him to pursue a head coaching position. It also makes the position much more attractive for potential suitors should there come the need.
 
3 years with HIS recruits means you're not going to judge him until after he's been here for 4 years (following the '25 season).

because he, of course, didn't sign a single kid in his first year on the job.

maybe that's fair.
OL is a unit that's impacted by coaching more than any other position group. In most circumstances, the expectation should be that assistant coaches get 2 years to prove they're worth a shit.
 
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It’s less about what Holgerson wants, as anything NU pays Houston doesn’t. It’s really more about wants to do. Given the young talent, NU has a good chance of keeping him in Lincoln should he want to go big conference OC to re-enter the coaching ranks. They wanted him out of WVU a couple of years before he left, and Houston was a flame out for him. He probably isn’t a big program HC.
Right, when I mean whatever he wants… that means non monetary. What we actually pay him is meaningless really since it just offsets what Houston pays him.
I mean just make him happy and get him to stay. If that means hiring coaches he wants.. so be it
 
I get what you're saying, I really do, and I think that while the line has improved in pass pro, it sucks balls in the run game. Part of my point is that in two games DH has game planned/raised hell with all the offense, and the line has looked better since he arrived. It's too early to tell if his presence on the team and his play calling has improved the line. But if the line looks really good the next two games (and this is the point I was trying to make) then you could argue that the mediocre line play was due to Satt's game plan and in-game play calling, not Donovan's coaching.
I think it proves Holgersen is an offensive genius more than anything, while Donovan is a mediocre assistant who is only as good as the guy above him. The offensive line has looked light years better the last two weeks. That's completely due to DH's influence.
 
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What a calming influence DH has been to our fanbase.

WR coach had to go. RB too. OL can go to, since DR may not be all that.

Now it’s like, if DH is cool with it, then I am too.
I've flipped on Uncle Donnie. I think he's shown enough to stay. The WR and RB coaches I'd rather see go, but like you said, I'll defer to what DH wants.
 
I think it proves Holgersen is an offensive genius more than anything, while Donovan is a mediocre assistant who is only as good as the guy above him. The offensive line has looked light years better the last two weeks. That's completely due to DH's influence.
It was always there. Dana said right away after a few practices that he was pleasantly surprised with our O line. He liked their pad level and technique. I’ve heard zero criticism from him about the O line other than the screwed up snap counts which it sounds like we’re on our center. On the other hand he has had lots to say about routes, perimeter blocking and hitting holes.

You guys need to face reality. Donovan is a good coach. He has multiple young guys ready to go. He’s also recruited some young highly sought after kids. Time to get over the fact that Frost hired him originally.
 
On a related note. I thought Banks blocked his ass off on Saturday.

Here's a good example.
Banks had the most important block on that play. Which proves that the guy can block, it only took 10 games and a DH kick in the rear to make him do it. Which is why I don't understand why you would want to keep the guy around who couldn't get him to play worth a shit when he was an all-conference type player at his last school.
 
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Banks had the most important block on that play. Which proves that the guy can block, it only took 10 games and a DH kick in the rear to make him do it. Which is why I don't understand why you would want to keep the guy around who couldn't get him to play worth a shit.
It’s not about what we want. It’s about how he’s coaching now and whether or not Dana likes the job he’s doing now. What came before Dana got here is now irrelevant if Dana stays.
 
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It’s not about what we want. It’s about how he’s coaching now and whether or not Dana likes the job he’s doing now. What came before Dana got here is now irrelevant if Dana stays.
I've already said that. Whatever Dana wants I'm good with in the end. But given the disparaging marks about our WR and RB play, I'd be surprised if Dana actually wants those position coaches to stick around.
 
I think it is one of the most important goals in the past 20 years of Husker football to keep DH in the fold. If he stays I think big things will happen next year. But if he goes I hope Rhule can find someone cut out of the same cloth. Open the check book, pay him more than any other OC in America and then keep fingers crossed that he does not get a head coaching offer.

One thing working in our favor is that DH knows football well enough that he understands the Nebraska brand. And therefore, he understands that if he turns our offense around next year and makes it something special that he can write his own ticket for any number of head coaching jobs.
 
The OC needs to be the big picture guy that sees how the pieces come together. He needs to direct his assistants, not defer to them. Otherwise, everybody can look bad. So I feel like the assistants should get a fresh eyes evaluation just like the players.

After Iowa, DH gets 15 bowl practices to learn which coaches/players are rising to the occasion. Hopefully that’s all the coaches and all the best players. I am hoping we that we look impressive offensively in the bowl game.
 
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It’s not about what we want. It’s about how he’s coaching now and whether or not Dana likes the job he’s doing now. What came before Dana got here is now irrelevant if Dana stays.
If Dana stays, I'm on board for whatever coaches are retained. Maybe Dana loves that total hands on approach as a OC? It looks like those coaches are gonna comply (or try) to comply with whatever Dana is demanding. It definitely looks like a lot players have bought into Dana's method of teaching and expectations. Those players that haven't bought in, or lack the physical/mental ability to do those things Dana expects will be passed over. As it should be.

The most beneficial thing if Dana returns is that these offensive players now know what the expectation level is and have a chance to work on those deficiencies.

He seems like a get on board or get out of the way kind of coach.
 
The OC needs to be the big picture guy that sees how the pieces come together. He needs to direct his assistants, not defer to them. Otherwise, everybody can look bad. So I feel like the assistants should get a fresh eyes evaluation just like the players.

After Iowa, DH gets 15 bowl practices to learn which coaches/players are rising to the occasion. Hopefully that’s all the coaches and all the best players. I am hoping we that we look impressive offensively in the bowl game.
The coordinators and the head coach have a big impact on how well assistant coaches perform, that's absolutely true. But if your unit has straight up sucked ass for 9 games, and going into last year too, I don't believe that warrants a fresh start with two games left to evaluate. The major reason I support keeping Donovan around is his unit was actually showing improvement before DH even got here. This isn't a program where subpar coaches should be cutting their teeth. All of the assistants on that side of the ball have been here for two years and that was plenty of time to show something by now if they were actually worth keeping around.
 
The coordinators and the head coach have a big impact on how well assistant coaches perform, that's absolutely true. But if your unit has straight up sucked ass for 9 games, and going into last year too, I don't believe that warrants a fresh start with two games left to evaluate. The major reason I support keeping Donovan around is his unit was actually showing improvement before DH even got here. This isn't a program where subpar coaches should be cutting their teeth. All of the assistants on that side of the ball have been here for two years and that was plenty of time to show something by now if they were actually worth keeping around.
I tend to agree. DH critiqued the WR and RB room specifically, so they could be on their way out.

The biggest motivator that coaches have at their disposal is playing time, and it clearly hasn’t been used effectively. I bet Fidone doesn’t false start on Friday. Did McGuire have authority to bench Banks or Neyor for rounding routes and not blocking? DH has taken that responsibility, but did he take it from McGuire or Satt?
 
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