If we can keep DH, I think our offense looks kinda fun to be a part of.
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Ummm. DH is 53...That's Gen X buddy. Boomers don't hold a candle to us bad asses.
This is how we rolled!
I've posted this before, but I listened to a former NFL head coach comment on why coordinators kept getting recycled after being fired from jobs. He said, "calling plays is a unique talent that few coaches have" so guys who can do it get rehired. When you get to the NFL level there's quite a few who can do it, but they don't all have the same weapons as the other guys. In college there's a lot of guys who are calling plays that are just calling plays. Osborne was manipulating the defense with his play calling.
Probably true, but if you have a guy who has relationships with our WR recruits and current roster AND he now knows how you want them coached, it might be okay to keep him on board. I'm not invested in him staying or going. I'm just offering a different view.
It’s less about what Holgerson wants, as anything NU pays Houston doesn’t. It’s really more about wants to do. Given the young talent, NU has a good chance of keeping him in Lincoln should he want to go big conference OC to re-enter the coaching ranks. They wanted him out of WVU a couple of years before he left, and Houston was a flame out for him. He probably isn’t a big program HC.
Garrett let Neyor and Banks dominate the playing time without expectation of sharp routes and blocking on the perimeter. In steps DH, and that changes in two weeks. We need a real coach there, not a cheerleader.
When you tell them if you don't block, you don't play. Exhibit A. Thomas Fidone.
On a related note. I thought Banks blocked his ass off on Saturday.
Here's a good example.
Apparently Banks likes to play. LOL
Even when they don't make that great block, there will always be something to say about giving a maximum effort. DH is instilling the right frame of mind.
Unrelated, but even on that early swing pass to Jacori, Scott at Center fires off the ball and just misses blocking the LB on the backside, but continues to sprint upfield and still become part of the play. We haven't seen that kind of effort in forever. It's a mindset now.
Check our EJ's effort on that same play. This was the play after he had a long run on the screen pass.
He seems like a guy that goes balls to the walls weeks on end and then crashes. We need to give him plenty of time to decompress at strategic times during the year to avoid burnout. JMO.
Not disagreeing. I’m just saying that the new OC has set the standard now and he may like how our WR coach and his charges have responded to his demands. There’s lots of employers who are happy employing young people willing to accept how they want things done (me for one). The worst professional I ever hired was a guy with a doctorate who played guard for the ISU football team. He had been out of school a for about 5 years and thought he knew everything and could do whatever he wanted. Awful. He cost me tens of thousands of dollars. His wife who also worked for me finally said they had to quit because she couldn’t work with him…. He was an imbecile.
Sounds like he was overeducated for his intelligence.
Those who think they know everything, are annoying to those of us who do.
Make Dana the highest paid offensive assistant in college football and we make that decision a lot harder and perhaps hold off the desire for him to pursue a head coaching position. It also makes the position much more attractive for potential suitors should there come the need.
OL is a unit that's impacted by coaching more than any other position group. In most circumstances, the expectation should be that assistant coaches get 2 years to prove they're worth a shit.
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Right, when I mean whatever he wants… that means non monetary. What we actually pay him is meaningless really since it just offsets what Houston pays him.
I mean just make him happy and get him to stay. If that means hiring coaches he wants.. so be it
I think it proves Holgersen is an offensive genius more than anything, while Donovan is a mediocre assistant who is only as good as the guy above him. The offensive line has looked light years better the last two weeks. That's completely due to DH's influence.
I've flipped on Uncle Donnie. I think he's shown enough to stay. The WR and RB coaches I'd rather see go, but like you said, I'll defer to what DH wants.
It was always there. Dana said right away after a few practices that he was pleasantly surprised with our O line. He liked their pad level and technique. I’ve heard zero criticism from him about the O line other than the screwed up snap counts which it sounds like were on our center. On the other hand he has had lots to say about routes, perimeter blocking and hitting holes.
You guys need to face reality. Donovan is a good coach. He has multiple young guys ready to go. He’s also recruited some young highly sought after kids. Time to get over the fact that Frost hired him originally.
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Banks had the most important block on that play. Which proves that the guy can block, it only took 10 games and a DH kick in the rear to make him do it. Which is why I don't understand why you would want to keep the guy around who couldn't get him to play worth a shit when he was an all-conference type player at his last school.
It’s not about what we want. It’s about how he’s coaching now and whether or not Dana likes the job he’s doing now. What came before Dana got here is now irrelevant if Dana stays.
EJ did just enough to spring that. It's the little things that make a huge difference.
I've already said that. Whatever Dana wants I'm good with in the end. But given the disparaging marks about our WR and RB play, I'd be surprised if Dana actually wants those position coaches to stick around.
I think it is one of the most important goals in the past 20 years of Husker football to keep DH in the fold. If he stays I think big things will happen next year. But if he goes I hope Rhule can find someone cut out of the same cloth. Open the check book, pay him more than any other OC in America and then keep fingers crossed that he does not get a head coaching offer.
One thing working in our favor is that DH knows football well enough that he understands the Nebraska brand. And therefore, he understands that if he turns our offense around next year and makes it something special that he can write his own ticket for any number of head coaching jobs.
One thing working in our favor is that DH knows football well enough that he understands the Nebraska brand. And therefore, he understands that if he turns our offense around next year and makes it something special that he can write his own ticket for any number of head coaching jobs.
The OC needs to be the big picture guy that sees how the pieces come together. He needs to direct his assistants, not defer to them. Otherwise, everybody can look bad. So I feel like the assistants should get a fresh eyes evaluation just like the players.
After Iowa, DH gets 15 bowl practices to learn which coaches/players are rising to the occasion. Hopefully that’s all the coaches and all the best players. I am hoping we that we look impressive offensively in the bowl game.
After Iowa, DH gets 15 bowl practices to learn which coaches/players are rising to the occasion. Hopefully that’s all the coaches and all the best players. I am hoping we that we look impressive offensively in the bowl game.
If Dana stays, I'm on board for whatever coaches are retained. Maybe Dana loves that total hands on approach as a OC? It looks like those coaches are gonna comply (or try) to comply with whatever Dana is demanding. It definitely looks like a lot players have bought into Dana's method of teaching and expectations. Those players that haven't bought in, or lack the physical/mental ability to do those things Dana expects will be passed over. As it should be.
The most beneficial thing if Dana returns is that these offensive players now know what the expectation level is and have a chance to work on those deficiencies.
He seems like a get on board or get out of the way kind of coach.
The coordinators and the head coach have a big impact on how well assistant coaches perform, that's absolutely true. But if your unit has straight up sucked ass for 9 games, and going into last year too, I don't believe that warrants a fresh start with two games left to evaluate. The major reason I support keeping Donovan around is his unit was actually showing improvement before DH even got here. This isn't a program where subpar coaches should be cutting their teeth. All of the assistants on that side of the ball have been here for two years and that was plenty of time to show something by now if they were actually worth keeping around.
I tend to agree. DH critiqued the WR and RB room specifically, so they could be on their way out.
The biggest motivator that coaches have at their disposal is playing time, and it clearly hasn’t been used effectively. I bet Fidone doesn’t false start on Friday. Did McGuire have authority to bench Banks or Neyor for rounding routes and not blocking? DH has taken that responsibility, but did he take it from McGuire or Satt?
One thing you said BEFORE Dana was hired was that you didn't believe that our staff was detail oriented. Satt clearly isn't. Dana definitely is detail oriented. I suspect Tony is detail oriented but man opposing OCs have found the holes in his scheme. Over 400 yards to an offense with a team approach to play calling by guys how have never called plays is concerning. On one hand maybe the sum of the minds created a good plan and prevented us from scheming against their tendencies but damn. Locke no doubt is a better QB than we'll face at Iowa but we HAVE to stop Iowa's run game. What I've seen these past few games hasn't inspired much confidence in me in our ability to do that.
I think you might be right lol. I wasn't a huge fan of keeping him initially but the more and more I hear and see I think he's getting those guys better. They probably played their best game Saturday.
I'll admit he's probably the only coach on the offensive side that I'm sold on. Not that I think they are bad coaches. It's kinda how I felt when we hired some of these guys. Can we do better isbthe question I always ask. If the answer is yes I feel like we should aspire to do better.
I have similar thoughts when it comes to recruiting. A lot of times guys (fans) love every player that commit or we sign. I can ROOT for all if them because they are now Huskers. That said I judge them based on a simple question...
Does this player get us closer to beating OSU or Oregon or Penn St.? If the answer is no I feel like we should be aiming higher. Of course I know it's not that simple but it's just a line that I like to judge by. Lemme say I'm not talking stars either. I'm talking about skill set,film, athleticism and how that would translate to the next level.
Short story long. We should aim to get the best coaches and players at a place like Nebraska. With the resources we have we shouldn't settle on either.
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Raiola - substantial upgrade
Barney - substantial upgrade
Gottula - upgrade
EJ - beginning to show upgrade status.
And others of course.
Pelini passed on or didn’t go hard after several players that popped elsewhere and given how fans love the local guys, our coaches may have overlearned the lesson. Lloyd has wheels, but is he a track guy at heart? Coleman has all the talent in the world, but doesn’t understand how to be a high conference football player. Compare those two to Barney, who came in and stole their lunch money. Might we see kids like the Clark and Smith kids getting reps at WR in the bowl game?
Are you suggesting if somebody missed a block Satterfield should have raged "Who missed that block? Who the f missed that block? Who's the slimey, little communist, sh#$ twinkle-towed c@#$suck$% down here, who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody huh? The fairy-fing godmother missed it! I'll f-ing stab you! I'll f-ing PT you all until you f-ing die! I'll f-ing PT your a$$hole for sucking buttermilk"?
In engineering more often than I hoped I ran across guys and gals who were super-smart, much smarter than I who just didn't "get it" and couldn't get their jobs done. Satt no doubt knows more about football than all of us and is a very smart guy, but he does not appear to have a feel for the game, can't seem to get the right players in the right situations, and does not seem to be someone players will run through walls for.
Donnie is a mascot
Aaron Coeling is the closest thing to a qualified OL coach we have on staff
And those quotes were after the USC game, not “a couple practices”
There’s a reason we used 7 to block nearly every play on Saturday. Those guys need all the help they can get.
