Only issue I have with College football now is that potentially a school(team) can have practically all new players from year to year. All depends upon how much money is available to each via NIL. How difficult that must be for the coaches? Why recruit if you know it will be a revolving door annually? Why does a kid even need to go to class. Just get a zero and transfer out at the end of the year. That is what is happening in basketball as they go pro after one year and have never passed a class. Guess getting a college degree these days is meaningless. Time are a changing!
OT: The PGA Tour, LIV Golf and the NCAA
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Reading the comments on that Tweet leaves me wondering how much it matters....and I don't know that answer but a lot of people look at it like a second rate channel, and an amateur move.
Should’ve never needed to exist in the first place
didn't take long for my prediction to fully become realized
Once the players realized that they are the ones in charge, everything changed.
It is simple, I am not going to watch Top Gun III if the part of Tom Cruise is being played by another actor.
Yep. Pretty soon they are going to be wearing shorts and basically becoming the mirror of LIV all while taking money from all kinds of shady money in the process but wanting to scream at Saudi Arabia!!!! Golf has an opportunity to leverage all of this shit. Create a team event with the PGA now. Let's go!
LIV is the USFL of golf, it's not the ABA. The PGA will adjust, as it is. LIV will die.
That may be the case, but everyone in the PGA can thank LIV for all of the changes otherwise nothing would have changed. LIV was the real agent of change and forced PGA's hand.
No argument with that. I suspect charities will be the outlier with all this. There's only so much money to spread around.
I’ll be attending the Arnold Palmer invite this weekend.. looking forward to seeing great PGA players like Rory…
Charities incur all of the cost of the tournament and hope the proceeds, minus the PGA's cut, cover their costs and turn a profit. Now that the 19 elevated tourneys have been arranged you see sponsors like Honda leave because the non-19 tournaments won't pay for themselves. PGA has been scamming everyone for decades.
Yep
A good lesson for all who are talentless but rely on talent to make money
Don’t be a visionless greedy toad
As usual, you missed the entire point
PGA is being forced to adapt because of its own overestimation of itself
Typical of those who are directly profiting off the sweat and work of those with actual talent
There’s a reason I lumped the PGA in with the ncaa in the title of this thread
Lol Cam Smith, Brooks, Neimann, Oosthuizen, Westwood, (DJ)… all have been top 20 players in the last few years. Smith and DJ top 5. They have every bit as much talent as the PGA, noting proportional to their league size.
PGA tried to cancel Phil, did fine and censure him for verbalizing something 100% true. Kinda like cancelling people for refusing to misgender the ‘gender confused’. Pissed him off, to no Sane Person’s surprise.
This is what tipped the scales with LIV, IMHO. Phil giving a big, public middle finger to the Cancel Crowd. I LOVE the PGA otherwise, but yeah they deserved this. Excited to see LIV streaming. Nothing wrong with a little competition. Brings out people’s best.
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Not gonna lie… I don’t have much problem watching ‘pro athletes’ put literally all their eggs in one basket, make what they thought was a lotta money, watching their careers fizzle, and blowing their entire existence because they were too stupid to have a backup plan that didn’t include pro sports.
Would be in favor of ALL professional athletes being required to have a four year degree. 100%. Seems the most annoying athletes are the ones who skipped out on using their brains.
You are 110% correct, there isn't going to be any add'l $ generated; it's just going to be distributed differently. So now the tour (which is a non-profit entity that is an association of the PGA players) will just donate less and give more $ to guys to hit a white ball. So if people (LIV / Kong) feel good about that....
Charities don’t need anymore money. They already have enough. The money should go to individual players and they can trickle it down as they see fit.
PGA just announced today they’re eliminating any players cut at specific (quite a few) PGA-sponsored events, while decreasing the field size. Aka paying more money. OBVIOUSLY this is in response to LIV money. Having an IMMEDIATE effect on what the PGA will be doling out. Supply and Demand, baby…
PGA Tour moves to reduce fields, eliminate cuts at designated events beginning in 2024 season
Small-field, no-cut events are coming to the PGA Tour once again next year
www.cbssports.com
Good. I hate meritocracy just like RoryPGA just announced today they’re eliminating any players cut at specific (quite a few) PGA-sponsored events, while decreasing the field size. Aka paying more money. OBVIOUSLY this is in response to LIV money. Having an IMMEDIATE effect on what the PGA will be doling out. Supply and Demand, baby…
PGA Tour moves to reduce fields, eliminate cuts at designated events beginning in 2024 season
Small-field, no-cut events are coming to the PGA Tour once again next year
I enjoy the larger fields and seeing some young guy earn a big check by getting hot on the weekend.PGA just announced today they’re eliminating any players cut at specific (quite a few) PGA-sponsored events, while decreasing the field size. Aka paying more money. OBVIOUSLY this is in response to LIV money. Having an IMMEDIATE effect on what the PGA will be doling out. Supply and Demand, baby…
PGA Tour moves to reduce fields, eliminate cuts at designated events beginning in 2024 season
Small-field, no-cut events are coming to the PGA Tour once again next year
well, that can theoretically still happen, just a bigger gap to climb. My issue is the smaller field size. Having one's Tour Card is gonna suddenly mean a lot less... they're gonna be inviting a significantly reduced fraction of the top 100+ players.
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US Gubmint can print as much as they want! And with ZERO CONSEQUENCE!!!
Oh, wait...
I know some of the PGA golfers are still pretending to be mad about LIV but in the end, the only ones that are actually mad are the PGA execs.
agreed.
just a different brand of turd than the PGA powers that be, whose high-on-the-hog demeanor created this mess.
You can include the announcers and most media in the "PGA powers that be" in this situation. Was listening to XM 92 yesterday afternoon, when Rocco Mediate was being interviewed by K&M. I was excited to hear Rocco was getting his own show as he always seemed like a cool dude that would have some fun stories. Unfortunately, he went on a big, vindictive rant about LIV - basically an F U because who are these LIV players to not want to bow down to the PGA Tour for making them what they are today. I realize it is PGA Tour radio, but I no longer have a desire to listen to his show anymore. (A lot of the LIV players made the PGA Tour what it is today, but I don't think that even crossed his brain.)
Wait....there's golf radio?? Yikes. That sounds....boring.
the PGA channel on satellite radio is legit!
Ya know, I’d never liked Phil, until this. a) the PGA shit on him, repeatedly. Tried to cancel him for verbalizing Truths they maybe didn’t wanna hear, but nonetheless Truths. PGA deserved this, 100% and b) this is CAPITALISM. Big ‘F*ck Off’ to anyone who wants to whine about it. LIV guys are getting paid More, a lot more, to spend more time with their families, still play majors if they qualify, and IMHO probably just a less stressful, better quality of life.
Honestly seems like a no-brainer for them personally… just hope we can get live coverage on something more than ‘the CQ’ or whatever else No One will know about or tune in to… I hope they draw more players. More top 20 players, and compete AGAINST EACH OTHER. Ryder Cup format or something.
Tiger yes... Phil who cares... Jordan Spieth, Rory... and a ton of young golfers... John Rahm, Scotty... would dominate on LIV..
Sorry… Phil still an over the hill player who is an annoying fake in the best of times… hope he fades quickly
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