What Texas coach has?He couldnt beat OU..thats a big part of it
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What Texas coach has?He couldnt beat OU..thats a big part of it
Everybody and their brother recruits the state of Texas for high school talent. Ohio State's top 2 of 3 wide receivers came from Texas.They may have massive resources, but they dont have the best hot bed of talent. I think TX talent can be a bit overrated to be honest.
I mean TX gets the cream of the crop in talent yet...3 National Championships in their entire history?
While the State of Florida has shared the states talent between 3 teams that have 11 national titles between them?
I mean FLA has far and away better talent than TX does, and the GA area probably outdoes them as well. and maybe even other places.
I think because of the massive resources and coaching at the HS level in TX, Tx kids may have lower ceilings and projections because they are already developed a good level by the time they are SR's in HS, so you dont get much more out of them ceiling wise once they get to College. Of course that is just my opinion and I could be wrong...
But only 3 nattys since 1970 compared to 11 nattys from the FLA teams doesnt scream to me that TX has more talent than FLA...Not even close...
And In the last 10 years tosu has recruited 10more kids out of FLa than they have TXEverybody and their brother recruits the state of Texas for high school talent. Ohio State's top 2 of 3 wide receivers came from Texas.
I will agree that UT has absolutely been outrecruited and has overvalued many of the players they've signed over the last 15+ years. https://highschoolfootballamerica.c...-most-nfl-players-on-kickoff-weekend-rosters/
Not going to count Oklahoma then? 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 playoff appearances. Granted, they don't have any hardware to show for it (thankfully) but they have 46 Texas born players on their roster.And In the last 10 years tosu has recruited 10more kids out of FLa than they have TX
The if u want to talk Bama and GA amd Clemson?
They are taking way more kids out of FLA than they are TX.
Yeah lots of teams are recruiting FLA kids as well, and most of the teams u see in the playoffs are taking more kids from FLA then they are from TX..
Sure they take a tx kid here and there, but they are talking more FLA kids..
Not sure if he's the answer, but I love this dude. The entertainment value is off the charts.Mike Leach!
Why would you want to keep losing and never go to bowl games?I don’t want to go the Chadwell direction, we might as well keep SF..
It'd buy us a year to find a coach.Lane Kiffin 100%
I'm fearful that Freeze's current success is tied to his luck in having a first round QB fall in his lap. For me there are only two names who will bring instant success.; Fickell and Kiffen.in all seriousness, Hugh Freeze
Guy can spot and recruit talent, that's a great skill to have as a coach, especially with QBs.I'm fearful that Freeze's current success is tied to his luck in having a first round QB fall in his lap. For me there are only two names who will bring instant success.; Fickell and Kiffen.
A couple of things I will add to this. I am pretty much on your side of this discussion. However, like with most discussions on message boards, there doesn't seem to be any middle ground. To make his point he probably undervalued Texas high school football as "overrated". And people from Texas, like you and I, probably over reacted to his critique of the football played in Texas. Texas has TCU, Tech, Texas and Baylor in the Big 12 and A&M in the SEC. Florida only has 3 P5 schools. Miami hasn't won a title since 2001, Florida got their 2 in 2006 and 2008, then Florida St got one in 2013. The remaining 7 were all won in prior to 2000.Not going to count Oklahoma then? 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 playoff appearances. Granted, they don't have any hardware to show for it (thankfully) but they have 46 Texas born players on their roster.
penn stateAsk the the person who started the post…But Fickell most likely wanting to look at a better job than Nebraska..
Me too.I'd still vote for Dave Aranda tonight.
Okay who ya got?Why are people so high on Dave Aranda? Good record as a DC but as a head coach, the resume is a little lacking.
It's not like that has stopped us in the past from hiring underqualified candidates but you would hope at some point we would learn from our past mistakes...
Smart X's and O's guy, which is needed at Nebraska. Young. Previously coached in the Big Ten West. Highly respected among his peers. Proven to make changes right away if something is not working right among his staff. Has a damn good OC that could come with.Why are people so high on Dave Aranda? Good record as a DC but as a head coach, the resume is a little lacking.
It's not like that has stopped us in the past from hiring underqualified candidates but you would hope at some point we would learn from our past mistakes...
There are several intangibles among coaches that we as fans aren't aware of. We probably are not going to get our first choice as coach, but some of the second tier choices might actually be better in the end. Aranda is a little bit under the radar. In the next two to three years his stock may take off.Smart X's and O's guy, which is needed at Nebraska. Young. Previously coached in the Big Ten West. Highly respected among his peers. Proven to make changes right away if something is not working right among his staff. Has a damn good OC that could come with.
Will have built some connections in Texas high schools that could help bring in some Texas-based talent that doesn't go to the in-state schools and SEC schools.
He very well could win the Big 12 in his second year as a head coach.
Honestly, if we did go after him, it would be less of a head scratcher than the Riley hire but still he is unproven as a head coach.Smart X's and O's guy, which is needed at Nebraska. Young. Previously coached in the Big Ten West. Highly respected among his peers. Proven to make changes right away if something is not working right among his staff. Has a damn good OC that could come with.
Will have built some connections in Texas high schools that could help bring in some Texas-based talent that doesn't go to the in-state schools and SEC schools.
He very well could win the Big 12 in his second year as a head coach.
Aranda vs Frost resumes are not comparable at all. Aranda is coaching at the P5 level already. Has more experience at the P5 level as a coordinator. Has already showin the willingness to make staff changes.Honestly, if we did go after him, it would be less of a head scratcher than the Riley hire but still he is unproven as a head coach.
What you said about Aranda is what we thought about SF. Offensive genius, young, connections in Florida, success in his second year....
Aranda's second season as HC isn't even finished. However, his stock would certainly be higher in my book if he won the Big 12.
I say let the season play out. For me, its too early to be so high on a second year HC.Aranda vs Frost resumes are not comparable at all. Aranda is coaching at the P5 level already. Has more experience at the P5 level as a coordinator. Has already showin the willingness to make staff changes.
Aranda also operates as the CEO, not coordinator playing head coach.
I'll decide between the winning head coach of the Baylor v Kansas State game. Kitty cats will go bowling this year. Klieman has won titles at ndsu. I think he knows how to run a program up and down. K-State is the least resourced team in the Big 12I say let the season play out. For me, its too early to be so high on a second year HC.
TBH I'm not really interested in game highlights of them beating a sh*tty Texas team by a touchdown.
If Frost is let go at the end of the season, perhaps we are forced into a position to take a chance on a coach like Aranda. I suppose that's still better than keeping Frost. But Id prefer a coach with a longer successful track record as HC.
I know the offensive coordinator for Fresno State. Worked with his mom for awhile at a denture lab. The head coach wanted him but knew his young family couldn't afford California homes until making the money. So he put him up and made sure they were taken care of and could successfully transplant and contribute to success on the field.Kalen DeBoer
47. from south dakota.
77-8 record as a head coach. Currently 10-5 overall record at Fresno State.
2nd best winning percentage among active head coaches. Ryan Day is #1.
If we went the G5 route, Kalen would be my #1 target. I was watching him since the start of the season and wanted to see what he does this season before talking about him. He wins. Has his entire head coaching career regardless of level of competition.
I think he goes to USC, he's a California guy.Honestly, if we did go after him, it would be less of a head scratcher than the Riley hire but still he is unproven as a head coach.
What you said about Aranda is what we thought about SF. Offensive genius, young, connections in Florida, success in his second year....
Aranda's second season as HC isn't even finished. However, his stock would certainly be higher in my book if he won the Big 12.
He would already be coaching out west if that was important to him.I think he goes to USC, he's a California guy.
The last time they took a coach from Michigan State it worked out pretty spectacularly.Lots of rumors swirling that LSU will go after Mel Tucker hard
Texas sure didn’t get any better by firing him. Not yet at least.I don't think Texas gave him a fair shot, but he's an offensive minded coach and think he could do a great job here. What concerns me most about him is the kissing the players thing was a bit weird. Herman wouldn't be a bad hire at all.