Mickey Rumor
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Coming from the attention seeker who claims to be an insider with a total of 28 messages.
I'm starting to suspect that king_kong_ is actually Mickey Joseph.
I kid, I kid.
Or do I...?
Since kong likes to bet, he's more likely RB coach Applewhite ghost posting for Mickey.
$5MM is a steal in todays market when you factor in no buyout tied in. We’d have to pay more for a current HC to come to Lincoln plus their schools buyout.
The only guys mentioned for the job without buyouts are BOB and Mickey. Rhule would need more than $8MM per year to actually get paid to work @ NU. Otherwise he’s working for free for 4 years. Unless I’m missing something or someone.
Mickey not only the peoples choice and the players choice, he’s the financial choice too
The only guys mentioned for the job without buyouts are BOB and Mickey. Rhule would need more than $8MM per year to actually get paid to work @ NU. Otherwise he’s working for free for 4 years. Unless I’m missing something or someone.
Mickey not only the peoples choice and the players choice, he’s the financial choice too
It’s one of the reasons I think BOB is the most logical hire. His monetary and length of contract demands might be a toe stubber though.
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The "big time booster" money is peanuts considering the TV revenue money rolling in. Boosters are being allotted chairs at the kids table these days.
This is 2022 not 1982.
why some of you are worried about Nebraska spending money like its coming out of your savings account is beyond me
this loser attitude is part of why we've been a loser football team the past decade
Almost 100 million a year just in conference payout.
Then you got tickets, concessions, merchandise, booster donations. Alcohol sales in the near future.
Take a bearing puller and pluck that memory of the 1994 budget from your skulls.
100 million over 4 years couldn't break Nebraska. Nebraska doesn't have a fertile recruiting ground. But they can use what advantage they have.
Booster donations could pay NIL. Conference income could buy a real coaching staff.
Once Nebraska is in the spotlight and kicking butt then they can upgrade the stadium.
Then you got tickets, concessions, merchandise, booster donations. Alcohol sales in the near future.
Take a bearing puller and pluck that memory of the 1994 budget from your skulls.
100 million over 4 years couldn't break Nebraska. Nebraska doesn't have a fertile recruiting ground. But they can use what advantage they have.
Booster donations could pay NIL. Conference income could buy a real coaching staff.
Once Nebraska is in the spotlight and kicking butt then they can upgrade the stadium.
Just because you CAN pay someone more doesn't mean you should
Maybe Mickey would want/accept a lower salary because he knows to be successful, he will need a LOT of money available to pay the best coordinators and assistants he can get. I think Mickey knows that and is willing to sacrifice some salary now for program success.
Something like lower salary with an incentive heavy contract for 4yrs. If he does well the next contract will reflect the success he has had.
Something like lower salary with an incentive heavy contract for 4yrs. If he does well the next contract will reflect the success he has had.
I'd argue that a lot of the advantages Nebraska used to have are gone.
And the disadvantages have only increased since the formation of the B12 and population in Nebraska has not risen even remotely enough over the last 40 years. Post offices are shutting down due to town population drain all across Nebraska.
And Nebraska wasn't invited to the B10 because they pinched their pennies. They got there because of good football. Right now money is the only real advantage Nebraska has and it's reputation is diminishing every year.
Again good football got Nebraska making 100 million a year and nothing else.
So you shared it anyway 🤔
Busch is the only coach I would be disappointed to see let go. I'd be ok keeping rb coach but not a great loss. We're better at that position than in the past but replaceable
This is best argument for Mickey. What he lacks in "experience" (I would argue he doesn't all that much) he would make up for in hustle. No one wants it worse than Mickey and no one will work harder for it. Use the $$ we save on him to surround him with proven staff.
Explain to me how that is more risky than bringing in someone like Mr Perpetual .500 Aranda or Campbell. The second someone like that hits a speed bump they'll be sitting there wishing they never left
Dude our media payout and annual revenue is public info
Everyone on the planet knows we could pay the head coach $10M/year and still have blank checks laying around for top-end staff salaries
Why do so many act like the money is finite when in fact the opposite is true?
From Joseph's Wiki page, these are the coaching psns he has held: QB, running game coordinator, WR, RB, high school HC, AHC, HC, ST, passing game coordinator, interim HC. His coaching tenure dates back to 1995.
I'm not worried about his coaching experience. If I'm Alberts, I'd be evaluating the plan Joseph is pitching against those of other applicants. And it is my belief that once you get past a few folks that are viewed as "can't miss" (and remember, our most recent HC was described in these terms), it's six of one and a half dozen of the other. Who has the best ideas to address NU's deficiencies at the line of scrimmage? Is Alberts looking for a guy who can get 7-9 wins, or a guy who will compete head up against Michigan, tOSU and PSU? Who has a good plan for a staff with a top recruiting network? Say what you want about Pelini, but we haven't seen guys like Gregory, Maliek, Martin, David etc. on the roster for some time.
If Mickey wins the job he should be paid at minimum what Frost was getting. Why should he take any less when he took over ding-dongs roster and was more successful? In this conference now 5mil/yr leaves plenty of $$$ to pay assistants.
It's fantastic how you say this as if it were a fact. No one knows what Mickey will be like as a head coach. No one knew Pelini would be a psychopath as a head coach, but we sure found out after a few seasons. We all speculated what we THOUGHT he would be like, kinda like with Mickey.
Joseph has an advantage over other applicants in that he basically now in an audition for the job. We saw the play in the first few weeks. Now we are seeing what Joseph can do against B1G teams with this roster. As for Pelini, I never gave two shits about the sideline stuff. Clearly he took a blowtorch to any and all bridges on his way out. But his rosters and his actually giving a shit about putting prepared players on the field look better and better in the rear view mirror.
no, we do know. when mickey was at LSU coach O said he was drained by the time it was time for their kickoff bc mickey was so emotionally invested in watching the nebraska game. do your research
Yeah, I'm sure NO ONE wants it more than him. NO ONE will work harder. Bullshit. Give me list of 10 names that could be candidates for this job and I'll find anecdotes about how hard they work and how bad they want it. Who cares? I want a track record of winning MF'ing football games. I want evidence, not "feeling" and cute anecdotes.
saying he works hard doesn't have to be anecdotal. there is plenty of evidence of him already doing it. i want the track record of winning games at the coordinator position. lot of hc names in the conversation that have a track record of losing just as many games as they win. if there was a guy out there that fits the big ten and has a winning history i'd take him, i just dont see that out there
Aranda - 18-12
Klieman 97-31 (25-18@KSU)
Campbell 80-53 (45-38@ISU)
Lane 83-42 (22-9@Ole MIss)
To compare, Bo Pelini was 67-27 at NU when he was fired. The team finished second in the West that year.
Klieman's approach would win games in the B1G if he can get the recruits that can compete in the league. Lane could get more blue-chip players on the roster.
Then you're looking for Luke Fickell. He's on his 6th year as HC of the Bearcats. With a 72.29 win%. Has made the post season every year as HC with the exception of his first year at Cincinnati. Currently sitting at 6-1 on the year, the loss being by 7pts.
Has coached at Akron, Ohio State, and Cincinnati. Played for Ohio State and highschool ball in Ohio.
If you’re going to treat people the way Pelini treated support staff and media you damned well better win at or near a Saban level.
And if you are going to can a dick who wins, you'd best find a non-dick who also wins. Eichorst nailed the first thing and whiffed on the second.
would take him but there's a 0% chance his wife allows that to happen. he'll either be tOSU or MAYBE notre dame or penn st but he's not leaving that area
I think Kleiman’s recruiting would be a ceiling. If you want to get back to regular bowl games with little chance of ever winning the B1G, he can probably do that.
BILL O’BRIEN. There shouldn’t even be a debate. IF BOB would take the job and we pass on him for Mickey, we deserve to lose and I love Mickey.
Lei of white and red flowers for the lady.
Diamond necklace with a ruby in gold as pendant silver hasp on the dinner plate.
Same but a watch for Fickell. Diamond studied ruby at the 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions. Gold minute and hour marks silver band. On their dinner plates at the sit down to discuss the job.
Figure out their favorite dishes to eat. Champagne.
Strongbox full of gold in the amount of the first quarter year of pay wheeled out next to the table.
Why are you so high on BOB? I’m personally pretty luke warm on him, but I do think there is a pretty good chance he is who we end up with.
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15-9 at PSU, 54-52 with the Texans. Lost to Pelini twice. Then beat Wisconsin twice the following week.
I'm somewhat familiar with his resume. Called plays for two of the best coaches ever, had moderate success in a tough spot at PSU and had moderate success at a tough gig in the NFL. Just nothing about him screams great hire (or bad hire) to me. I'm not against it and would get on board, just wondering why Dingle so all in on this one.
Has done the job. Would imagine he would feature an offense similar to Whipple. NU fans would probably see more disciplined play. Hard to assess recruiting as PSU was on restrictions when he was there. He coached in the league and won with a program that had just been through as big of a scandal as college football has seen. I'm sure he would be fine.
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