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All of these scholarship players that leave in their first year in the program are not a good reflection on our coaching staff's ability to evaluate talent.
All of these scholarship players that leave in their first year in the program are not a good reflection on our coaching staff's ability to evaluate talent.
You mean the guys they brought in to fill a class after taking the job 2 months before signing day? Can we hold off until we have an “n” of at least 1 before making that determination?
You mean the guys they brought in to fill a class after taking the job 2 months before signing day? Can we hold off until we have an “n” of at least 1 before making that determination?
I don't give a f*ck what you say, this is the exact same thing that got Pelini in trouble... taking players that were reaches. The sooner the coaches realize that players they were recruiting to play at UCF aren't going to cut it in the B1G, the sooner they can stop bitching about flipping our talent. Stop recruiting players that have just a few P5 offers, because it isn't changing our talent or depth from where it is right now.
I don't give a f*ck what you say, this is the exact same thing that got Pelini in trouble... taking players that were reaches. The sooner the coaches realize that players they were recruiting to play at UCF aren't going to cut it in the B1G, the sooner they can stop bitching about flipping our talent. Stop recruiting players that have just a few P5 offers, because it isn't changing our talent or depth from where it is right now.
This year’s class seems to suggest they are doing just that.I don't give a f*ck what you say, this is the exact same thing that got Pelini in trouble... taking players that were reaches. The sooner the coaches realize that players they were recruiting to play at UCF aren't going to cut it in the B1G, the sooner they can stop bitching about flipping our talent. Stop recruiting players that have just a few P5 offers, because it isn't changing our talent or depth from where it is right now.
You have to realize by now that you cannot criticize Scott Frost or anything he does. There will be backlash.
This year’s class seems to suggest they are doing just that.
It’s one thing to call out Pelini in year 6 or 7 for his recruiting, but I think it might be a bit premature to question these coaches and their recruiting chops after their first year.
Just my opinion.
I know. The coaches have bitched about our lack of talent, but they aren't doing the best job of replacing it with upgrades.
You have to realize by now that you cannot criticize Scott Frost or anything he does. There will be backlash.
You're going to lose at least that many from any given class. I would argue it's better to lose them early than have them taking up space for 3-4 years before they move on.Pelini did it from the start, and it would appear the same thing is happening again. How many of Frost's recruits/transfers came in and were a waste of a scholarship? Four? Five?
Or maybe it’s reality that coaches sometimes have to take a gamble and see if a guy pays off. Especially when they didn’t have a full year to fill the class. Would you have rather not filled the class than take a chance on a guy that might be a reach? Because those were the options less than a month before the early signing period. Unreasonable to expect a staff to fill a class with home runs any year, much less when they have 2 months to recruit.
Wonder if now he will transfer to UCF?
Didn't I see somewhere on here that this class is rated like #15 in the country if everyone signs? When was the last time we were #15? its not top 10, but it seems to me like a move in the right direction toward replacing with upgrades.
All of these scholarship players that leave in their first year in the program are not a good reflection on our coaching staff's ability to evaluate talent.
Have you looked at other schools that just hired new coaches last year and compared them? In other words, do you know that there is anything unusual about any school losing a few recruits from a class that was put together late by a new coach? If you have done this research, then let's hear about what your research tells us and how this compares to other schools in the same situation. If you haven't(as I suspect you have not), then you have absolutely no leg to stand on with your comments. I am sick and fed up with people whose first instinct is always to find fault with things like this when you don't even know what the heck you are talking about. Unless you know for sure based on research that there is anything unusual about this in this situation, then you are just a know-it-all knee-jerk critic who really doesn't know a darn thing.Pelini did it from the start, and it would appear the same thing is happening again. How many of Frost's recruits/transfers came in and were a waste of a scholarship? Four? Five?
I know. The coaches have bitched about our lack of talent, but they aren't doing the best job of replacing it with upgrades.
Didn't I see somewhere on here that this class is rated like #15 in the country if everyone signs? When was the last time we were #15? its not top 10, but it seems to me like a move in the right direction toward replacing with upgrades.
I know. The coaches have bitched about our lack of talent, but they aren't doing the best job of replacing it with upgrades.
I believe we had a "top 15" class under Pelini that ended up being almost worthless. The physical talent is only half the equation. Go ask USC fan what a couple top 5 recruiting classes can be worth.
Yep. I think 2011 we were ranked like 12th? We ended up going 5-7 when that class were seniors. LI believe we had a "top 15" class under Pelini that ended up being almost worthless. The physical talent is only half the equation. Go ask USC fan what a couple top 5 recruiting classes can be worth.
Right?You seem uncharacteristically out of sorts....not like you.
I think we will be fine...
I do think there is a difference coming from group of 5 to P5, and last year could have been better.Pelini did it from the start, and it would appear the same thing is happening again. How many of Frost's recruits/transfers came in and were a waste of a scholarship? Four? Five?