Not getting a ton of pub here, but I think he is going to start, no matter if MRI is healthy or not. It's good that we are going to be able to rotate, but I think Mr. Newby has elevated his game this fall.
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Hoping he can line up at DE on 3rd downs and held generate some pressure.
He's elevated his game to another level this fall camp. A lot of people may be forgetting he was arguably the most recruited starter on the defense, and now he's finally playing like it.
Stop it.
The dude is a LINEBACKER, and a damn good one in coverage. He is more valuable running with a tight end or a running back on a passing down. That stupid Bo Pelini Newby as a pass rusher charade is a waste of talent.
Interestingly enough expect to see Antonio Reed used as a pass rusher at times this season.
That's fine with me, but Dzuris and Freedom ain't gonna cut it. We need to get it from somewhere else and I'd rather have a guy with talent do that than chasing a rb around in coverage. Whether it's Reed or Newby or someone else doesn't matter to me at all.
If you're in a base defense, or even nickel where you need an outside linebacker in coverage, you are basically asking for calamity if you fail to use your OLB with the best coverage skills.
If you move him up to the LOS, as a DE, you're basically weakening two positions. Nebraska will utilize Alex Davis as a pass rusher with the #1's in clear cut 3rd and long Nickel and Dime situations.
A lot of people are really concerned about the pass rush, and I think its viable, but I also know Nebraska will present a very diverse and multiple schematic look this year on defense. I've even heard the potential of a 3-2-6 look vs. Spread teams. They will be doing a lot of things to help manufacture pressure on the QB.
I have heard they are looking at some different guys in that role, but Newby was terrible at it when we used him there as a RSfr
We used that 3-2-6 look in the Bowl Game, with Reed and Williams at Nickel and Dime, made us very athletic.
They will also be running a lot of cover 3. I wouldn't be surprised if that became the base defense. I agree that you will see a lot more blitzing and blitzes from different angles and positions.
I would be shocked to see C3 as a base. It gives up way too much aside from obvious passing downs. I know the blitz is the automatic answer to getting pressure but you cant live with it all day long. Every D has a blitz option package to include LB, CB, and safeties. The best angle is always the straightest line, especially against a QB that can unload the ball to the hot guy.
Not saying you're wrong but judging from The comments Stewart made yesterday they are running it a lot. So take it for what it is worth.
I haven't been this excited about linebackers since Lavonte David and Phillip Dillard. Trent Bray did a hell of a job with these guys in the latter games of last season and I think he's only going to make them better. The 3-2-6 scheme seems like it will work more against teams trying to beat us on the edges and win the speed battle (MichSt and UCLA last year, Oregon, Ohio State, possibly Indiana this year). Hopefully our secondary is improved enough and has better depth now to not allow go-routes over the top. In turn, I also feel like it will make the opponents want to run their RBs up the middle on our young(er) D-Line. Here's to Parrella developing the DE and DTs like Bray did the LBs last year.
Very excited for Marcus Newby this year, though. Also, I'm really high on what Dedrick Young can do, too.
Very excited for Marcus Newby this year, though. Also, I'm really high on what Dedrick Young can do, too.
Disagree with most of what you said. Firstly, rushing guys on passing downs pre-dates Bo by a long way.
Secondly, you could have the argument that NOTHING is more important on a clear passing down that somebody who can get to the QB.
Thirdly, that defense has way more guys who can cover than it does guys who can rush off the edge. There's Freedom and ________________________. Don't say Ross Dzuris. Love Ross, love his heart, but if he ends the year with 8 sacks I'll be shocked.
It doesn't have to be Newby, but if they have an LB who is a good speed rusher, let him do it.
If they want a LB to rush the passer, they will blitz.
And when I talk about Bo using Newby in that fashion, I'm referring to Bo failing to develop guys like Newby and Eric Martin at their recruited positions while using them for 6 snaps per game with their hand on the ground.
Marcus Newby will be the most complete linebacker on the team in 2016. It would be a waste to use him in that role.
There is no substitute in the pass rushing game for good defensive ends. Even blitzes do not work as well if an end does not have to be double teamed by a tackle and a tight end/running back. McBride's great blitzing teams of the 90's were all based on linebackers, safeties, corners getting to the QB as Wistrom and company got all the attention. When a guy like Wistrom commands a double team you have free pickings to bring a corner off the edge or stunt a linebacker through the vacated B gap. So it is no good to say that we need not worry about our ends having no rushing skills since our back 7 are so good. That shows a total lack of understanding of how organically connected various parts of the defense are
The side of the pass rush equation that seems to go ignored was the fact that primary receivers were either going uncovered or were very poorly covered. There were times when slot receivers beat the coverage so quickly that the QB hadn't even completed a 5 step drop and was throwing the ball. Better coverage, better assignment knowledge, better key recognition and reaction by the LBs and the DBs will aid in getting a better pass rush.
Yes, got to love our OLB's, hard to say who is more talented between Newby and Young.
My brother is an assistant coach at a high school outside of Lincoln (He refuses to let me say where, ha). But he and some other coaches were invited to a Nebraska practice this Fall. He says he is almost certain he saw them working on a 3-2-6 scheme against the spread. I just thought "yeah right..." until I just read your comment. Wow. So maybe my dork big brother was right!
Amazing how things have changed in less then 2 years. IIRC, last year LB was one of our thinnest positions.
No. It isn't. As a formation it may look like a 3-4, but the personnel groupings are different
how many pass knock downs will we get from our dt's. the big guy will create a no throw zone if he gets his hands up
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I don't know if using Eric Martin supports your argument at all. Martin was 2nd in the Big 10 in sacks in 2012 and was selected to the Big 10's 2012 First Team by the Media and 2nd Team by the coaches. He had 8.5 sacks and 13 Quarterback Hurries in 2012 that led the team by a wide margin. Martin was probably an ok LB, but was a better DE. To me, that is one that Bo got right.
With Newby, he was hurt much of his fres. and soph. years. Seemed like he couldn't get healthy. I think he is finally healthy now and probably has a little bit of confidence to go along with his health. Hope it is a good year for him.
Yes, so a 3-4.
Heck, would we call it a 2-3-6 if a LB substituted in for a DE and rushed?
Except the DBs in a 3-2-6 aren't always lined up in the typical LB positions.
If a LB was substituted in to pass rush, he would be lined up in the tradition DE location.
Subtle difference but a difference.
If a LB was substituted in to pass rush, he would be lined up in the tradition DE location.
Subtle difference but a difference.
Well yes. In a 3-2-6 the alignment often looks similar to a 3-4. But often it will not. The main thing is the difference in personnel. So I am not sure we are really disagreeing
My post was to Pelini the crutch. Sorry I should have quoted his comments.
You and I are in agreement.
I like that idea. Seen the Steelers use two down linemen a lot last year. If a team is concerned about their D-ends, leave the tackles in and bring in two more DBs let guys like Reed, Gregory or Newby blitz. Probably a bit risky, but it gets your best athletes on the field and puts you in more of an attack mode.
I think the pass rush issues last year were overblown. The pass rushing really wasn't that bad, average at worst. Our blitz was horrible. We'd blitz 1, 2, or 3 guys and every one of them would manage to get blocked. Our corners couldn't cover at all in man coverage. It's kind of hard to get to the qb when there's a receiver wide open 2 seconds after the snap. Freedom is well above average at being able to get to the quarterback. Dzuris did just fine. People will deride him just because he's a walk-on.
This from a seasoned observer; so find wisdom here in the history. I believe the coaches have taken many steps too correct much of what you bring up.... Towards the end of the year ; corners were starting to play the ball much better. Local player interviews had comments from players about how they were improving and comments on coaches goals. We now have one coach for corners alone; and It should bring more interceptions, and there have been mentions of coverage sacks in fall camp ( even on TA ). Two corners were specifically mentioned over the weekend, as players that not only cover; but attack the ball for turnovers.GBR
