I admire your dedication to willful ignorance. Not sure anybody’s ever shoved their up farther up their own ass.
Bring back the Trev avatar! He’s a really good AD!
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Rhule: "I have one job: It's to win at Nebraska"
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Bring back the Trev avatar! He’s a really good AD!
I admire your dedication to your multi-handle decade long troll.
You are pretty clueless. Sorry your eyes or lack of knowledge deceive you
Yeah we will agree to disagree. If you don't believe their was/is pressure from coaches to win a certain way at Nebraska then we are probably wasting time with this entire conversation.
As long as a coach came in and mentioned
Walk on program....check
In state football players...check
In line with the thinking of Osborne...check
He was already 3 steps ahead of the game and trust me they all knew it and acted accordingly.
EXCEPT Callahan who did it his way and probably would've recruited more and better NFL players than any coach on the list.
But again we won't ever agree on this if you can't see or acknowledge this was a thing.
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that's your opinion. You're welcome to it. Regardless of how wrong it is.
This post is spot on. Especially the part about Foley and Ruud and company with the "Nebraska tours" is an example of what I mean. We know there is talent in the state. We also know that the state deserves to be recruited hard. But fact of the matter is for the most part some people will still complain that we aren't recruiting enough Nebraska kids. Or bitch when random Nebraska kid goes to Iowa or ISU or KSU or wherever else they may go. I get the feeling but people have to understand that just being a D1 guy isn't enough anymore. Coaches have to evaluate to a higher level. IF winning at the playoffs level is the goal you gonna need a bunch of playoff level players. Are some of those in the state? Damn right there is. But is there 1 -3 of them or like 8-10 of them? That's just what us as fans gonna have to come to grips with
When OSU recruits Ohio or Bama recruits Alabama or Georgia recruits Georgia even they can only sign the creme of the state. Those are in talent rich states that have double digit D1 guys. But they also know there are some players in Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas etc that are more talented than some of those D1 guys in their state. So they go and recruit those as well. It shouldn't be deemed as a slap in the face to the state. It's just coaches trying to get the best available players they can regardless of the state they reside in. Imo it shouldn't be any different in Nebraska. Where it would be even harder to win with just in state D1 guys because their isn't nearly that much talent available.
We gotta get out of our feelings and look at these things realistically. If you wanna win you have to act like it and recruit accordingly. If we are ok with having feel good stories and winning 6-7 a year just let that be known so everyone is in the same page.
That record will get Rhule fired. We all have got a understand that the changes made doesn't leave much wiggle room at a place like Nebraska.
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The point is that what you are describing is what we have already been doing, and even sometimes turning our back on “the cream” of the nebraska crop. Or are you going to argue otherwise despite evidence above?
You dont seem to understand that people arent saying we need to get a bunch of nebraska kids and over recruit them every year. We’re saying we have not been doing that, as the rhule quote seems to insinuate.
Yes I would absolutely argue that we have been recruiting the cream of the crop when their isn't someone better.
What I would also say is what if that cream of the Nebraska crop isn't "good enough" to compete and beat the likes of a OSU or Oregon etc? Are you suggesting we still take them even if they aren't that type of player?
What if we can sign a better player than that cream of the crop player to compete in the BIG? Are you suggesting we ignore that player and sign the Nebraska kid for any reason other than him being for Nebraska?
I'm an advocate of taking the best player. The one who gives you the best chance to be at the top of the BIG. I don't care if he's from Nebraska or South Dakota. Florida or California. If he's the best we can get go for it.
It's not as hard as yall are making it.
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Oh yes I disagree. I think we have signed some kids that we could have done better than. I also think that when the numbers were what they were previously you could kinda offset those mistakes.
Currently I don't think that's the case. With new rules you can't afford to make those same signings. I'm not sure Ruhle was saying what you are saying he was but I DO believe it to be true.
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For manny many years, preachers been promising farmers for rain if the farmers just contribute money to the cause . Nothing has changed
I feel really bad for you if that’s your experience… You’re getting shafted by your preacher, because most preachers don’t make silly promises like that. You probably need to go elsewhere.
AD: Really have no idea outside of Pederson sucking pond water and Fing this program for the last two decades.
Rhule: I Like Rhule. I think he's a good guy and represents the university and the football program well. Whether that will result in 9-10 wins a season... I don't know, but I'm not holding my breath. It will really come down to recruiting.
Adjustments: Again it's early. I think it appears that he's making adjustments but until we see this team turn all of the adjustments into wins, those appearances are meaningless.
2 years ago I sat across the table from Ed Foley and he talked about all of the changes and great things that Rhule and his staff were going to make. My only comment to him was, " That all seems great, but you know that none of it will matter if you don't win." My coaching friends were nervous about his response. He nodded his head in agreement and simply said. "I know." And we drank to that.
I know Rhule and his staff get this. I hope they can make it happen. I'm just done with words and such. What I have seen on the field does not build any confidence that we will be turning the corner any time soon.
better AD than blockhead Trev, Moos
worse coach than Callahan & Pelini
same as Riley
better than Frost
better by default - those others didn't make many/any adjustments
I liken Rhule’s process to that of the book “Pound the Stone” by Joshua Medcalf. The changes and the focuses on the small details and being excellent at them don’t typically yield results right away - year 3 is going to be a great year to be a Husker fan.
Edit: Assuming no major injuries.
That's a fair assessment and fair thoughts. I'm actually a fan of HCMR and hope like hell he's the guy that gets the ship going in the right direction. But after years of hearing "talk" from all of our coaches it's absolutely hard to believe without seeing tangible evidence on the field. If we are being honest that hasn't truly happened yet. Hopefully this is the year.
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We don't have a serviceable qb after DR. If Raiola gets hurt we might only get 5 wins. If healthy we may have an outside shot at the playoffs if we get some luck and rhule delivers a rhule year 3.
So at what point is Rhule thought of as a “winning” coach? Playing for a national championship? Winning the BigTen? Winning 8 games? Where is that line drawn?
Is it reasonable to expect Nebraska to be in the conversation with the OSU’s, Oregon’s, and Georgia’s? I honestly would say ‘no’, that’s not real reasonable right now. Not saying it can’t happen but the likelihood of Rhule being able to make that a reality? I’d love to see that level of success again in Lincoln and Matt has his work cut out for him, for sure.
Is it reasonable to expect Nebraska to be in the conversation with the OSU’s, Oregon’s, and Georgia’s? I honestly would say ‘no’, that’s not real reasonable right now. Not saying it can’t happen but the likelihood of Rhule being able to make that a reality? I’d love to see that level of success again in Lincoln and Matt has his work cut out for him, for sure.
lmao.. I think we actually have 2 serviceable QB's on the team. I guess I would accept Raiola as a third, but that kid doesn't have the juice to go win games.. I think we have 2 other guys more capable when it comes to having a winning mentality.
The difficulty in putting a number of wins on a season to determine if it is a success or not is tough. Schedule is a much bigger factor than it was back in the day. After they did away with divisions, no one in the Big Ten is playing the same six teams every year. The fluctuation is schedule can be huge from year to year. Wisconsin plays Michigan, Ohio St and Oregon this season, 2 on the road plus away games against MInnesota and Indiana. That is 5 games they will be underdogs, probably 3 of those games double digit dogs.
Plus the schedule can change from year to year, gone is the home and home type schedule where you get a team from the other division home one year and away the next and rotate every 2 years. Now it is just whatever number of protected rivalry games you have, then some sort of random, pull out of a hat list of teams.
Plus the schedule can change from year to year, gone is the home and home type schedule where you get a team from the other division home one year and away the next and rotate every 2 years. Now it is just whatever number of protected rivalry games you have, then some sort of random, pull out of a hat list of teams.
I thought we were still on a 2 year rotation 🤔
Or is that just with the pac12 newcomers
not sure about Pac 12 newcomers. I do know that 2025, 2026, 2027 and 2028 have some teams that are the same and some teams that are different. Definitely not a true 2 year rotation.
I THOUGHT I read after the pac schools came in, when it came to scheduling, it would be done every 2 years for home and away but allowing for preferred games.
You thinking HH and Gramstad? I mean they'll probably play ok and they're good athletes but no school is asking them to qb for them. No school in the country would turn do DR transferring there. 2023 when HH was our qb noone respected our passing game.
I think they have the mentality and leadership to win games, absolutely. The current guy is more like a coin flip.. I don't care how nice he throws a ball when he's a 50% game winner, but I guess we will see if he's improved from a mindset perspective.
True freshman on an annually losing team and helps us to a winning record while breaking freshman passing records and leading all freshmen in the country.
9+ wins, in the conversation for the B10CCG game late in the season.
if he were to accomplish that and a few ranked wins a year i'd have zero complaints.
i would be ecstatic with a career like say, Mike Gundy.
His mind is already made up. He’s doubling down… he was right about AM, and by golly, he knows more than most about QBs. Maybe not as much as Mel Kiper, but more than most…
If there are two things he knows about - it’s women’s place in society and Nebraska QB. Both are hilarious.
the #1 thing I am interested to see also
will define his career here much more than stats ever could
Well - he’s won more games in a season than anyone in the last 8 years … as a true freshman. Did he make a bad throw v Illinois. Yes. Did he make a great throw in crunch time on 3rd down v Iowa. Yes.
He’ll be ready to show out this year and I think his supporting cast will be much better - especially the guy calling the plays.
If I see him slide short of the chains on 3rd down in 2025 I may need a new TV after the controller flies at it.
Left so much out there last year in so many games
I am hopeful that an iron will can be a learned trait
Intangibles supersede measurables at the level we want to get to, where everyone has the requisite measurables
So, like a Bo Pelini type record with a Matt Rhule type personality? Yeah, I'd take that. I don't know about ecstatic because I really long for the days of being in the national championship conversation on a regular basis. But, I've sort of thrown in the towel on that no longer being realistic, at least any time soon. So, yeah, what you described sounds pretty good.
