I hope he's more aggressive than his father. KF makes the defense carry most of the water and that is not the recipe for maximizing a team's potential.
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I hope he's more aggressive than his father. KF makes the defense carry most of the water and that is not the recipe for maximizing a team's potential.
Yes because he coached at a school with standards unlike Hekrieland where there are no standards. If there were, we wouldnt be discussing anyone with the name of Ferentz coaching at Iowa. Blue blood schools have standards and down years, mediocre schools have a few good years.
Or down decades right?
Oklahoma, USC, Notre Dame, Stanford, UCLA, Alabama, Florida have all had em. Nebraska is no different. Hell Minnesota was dominant but jist havent recovered.
What's hilarious to me about this, and we point it out all the time to idiot Iowa fans like yourself, even our "down decades" you are referring to has us with more wins and fewer losses than Iowa, in a time where they have had some of their best years.
Keep making fun of our "down decades", they're still better than Iowa in terms of wins and losses. Your highs have been higher, but your lows have been far lower.
Keep bragging. Makes you look foolish, but you are Iowa fan, and I would expect nothing less, especially from you arbitr8.
Edit: there are knowledgeable Iowa fans, you just aren't one of them. I don't mean to lump all Iowa fans in your category...
In the case of Iowa, multiple down decades. And I mean multiple. Are you guys even .500 over the history of your program?
in the interest of facts - yes, they are over .500. Through the course of history a respectable program, just with highs not as high or as prolonged as historically elite...and we all know the 10 or so that are. Iowa will be a tough out for the foreseeable future, just as they have been in the Big Ten for the entire lifetime of most people on this board.
If one wants to go with alternative facts or message board trash talking...carry on
1) Who the hell in Brian Ferentz?
2) Why does he care what's going on in our program? Has anyone on Riley's staff had the word "Iowa" in their mouth?
2) Why does he care what's going on in our program? Has anyone on Riley's staff had the word "Iowa" in their mouth?
How far back are we going? Nebraska's highs are obviously higher than Iowa's. But even Nebraska went through a bad stretch in the 40's and 50's. Whether or not that's valid is up to whomever is reading this.
I know you wanna point to the even win/loss record since 2001 but can you really look in the mirror and say that Nebraska has won much of substantial importance in that 15 years? I'm obviously biased but I think Iowa has had a better 15 years than Nebraska when you look at those wins/losses. BCS games, top 10 finishes, arbitrary Big Ten titles.
That's what Iowa fans have been trying to say when talking about the past decade and a half. Unfortunately, for we the fans, the hire ups at Iowa are ok with this level of play. I'm personally not but I'm not in charge.
In the mean time let's see what CBS sports ranks Ferentz compared to Riley.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ge-football-coaches-entering-the-2017-season/
Nobody care about Iowa or Ferentz.
Iowa does not matter, never has mattered and Ferentz sucks.
I'm actually a little embarrassed for you that you had to go back to the 40s and 50s to point out our bad era.
What I am saying is Iowa fan comes over here beating their chests about their accomplishments of late, trashing Nebraska in the process. In the meantime, our worst era in 70 years is still comparable in wins and losses to iowas best.
I will give you your accomplishments. That's great! But even at our worst we aren't far off.
Guys like arbitr8, on the other hand, just stir the pot all the time here, when the reality is, all you have done is gotten close. Division championships? 1. We have 4... Shared conference championships? 1? 2? Not sure... you've got that over us since 2001. Congrats!
BCS bowls? You have 2, we have 1.
Your awesome era, our "down decades," not that far off.
Rant over.
Yes, Iowas shared conference title compares to Nebraskas division championship in tue big 12 seems how the bug 10 wouldnt play a conference championship game. Plus that National Title game appearance Nebraska has since 2000 or wait, did Iowa fan want to start the cock size debate after that year? Sure they got an ass whooping but were still there. Kinda like Iowas last big bowl game.
...and this poll means exactly what in the grand scheme of things. Ferentz's best bet is to keep his job at Iowa because no other P5 school will pay him that type of money while accepting mediocrity. Funny thing is, he's lining his son up to carry on. Where else can you go for that kind of money for accomplishing so little.
Ferentzs' job performance is that of a weather man. He can suck at his job and never get fired.
is there really that much to argue about when comparing a 57% vs. a 54% winning percentage? both are lousy percentages if you ask me.
Wow did actually think before you wrote that?This coming from a fan whose team has paid out millions for coaching staffs after fired coaching staffs in the hopes of attempting to recreate the 1990's. Nebraska reminds me of the 70 year old lady who gets Botox treatment after Botox treatment trying her best to look like the hot babe she was when she was in her early 30's. Everyone around her just keeps grinning as her face slowly turns into something resembling the joker. Take a look in the mirror (national perception) because what your doing time after time ain't working. What Iowa must be doing is working in the national perspective look at the CBS link.
But by all means keep that "wait till next year" attitude going it gives the rest of us in the B1G something to giggle about.
Iowa.
It gives the rest of the B1G something to giggle about.
Example... even in their best season in school history they are second fiddle in the conference and BLOWN OUT in their bowl game.
Giggle giggle.
Sorry if you're butthurt over my comments. I honestly wasn't sure if they were over or under .500 for the history of the program. It's not like Iowa football immediately conjures up "stellar history" when the topic of college football comes up.
And Iowa reminds me of the kid that never had a chance. She was a homely baby, and no matter what makeup she tried, she just stayed homely her entire life. Many people felt sorry for her, but just didn't have any ideas to help her out.
Of course I thought it out, quite obvious you did not. The money we throw out is based on trying to get better. We failed a few times but that's part of the process. Your problem is you keep throwing money at a mediocre coach thinking he'll change.
As for your botox reference, that fit Iowa more the Nebraska. Ferentz is the ole lady and you keep pumping the money into him hoping one day he'll look better.
Botox or not, the big difference here is the identity crisis. Iowa doesn't have an identity crisis, while Nebraska does. Iowa doesn't have to live up to anything great. Nebraska will always be compared to the great teams that won championships. Someday, that will go away too (ala Minnesota), but it will take another generation or two.
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Should we compare the amount of money spent on Ferentz in his career to the amount of money spent on Solich, Callahan, Pelini and Riley? I would venture to say the amount will be very even.
So you can do the Iowa route and be content with 135-92 59% wins or go the Nebraska route 4 coaches 167-80 68% wins.
Then get a win per dollar spent ratio and see who came out ahead.
I disagree with the identity thing. With Iowa you know exactly what you are getting. A good OL and usually a tough defense. That has been the identity under Kirk Ferentz. They will have a few average years followed by a great year and maybe BCS game.
Right now this current Nebraska program under Riley doesn't have an "identity." They wear the Nebraska "N" on the helmet but that image seen long ago isn't what's on the field anymore. Nebraska will beat who they are supposed to beat and then lose to who they are supposed to lose to. With Riley I don't see that smash mouth physical style coming back anytime soon. Diaco addition was a help though.
re-read what i wrote. the subject was the identity crisis (Iowa doesn't have an identity crisis, Nebraska does) I think you are saying a similar thing to what I was saying. I edited it for clarity.
thanks for pointing it out, cause it wasn't very clear how i originally wrote it.
Oh I'm not hanging onto the 50's and 40's. I'm just wondering when you say "ever", if that includes the whole history of both athletic programs. 2015 wasn't Iowa's best season in school history. It was the first and only undefeated season. 1959 would have to be Iowa's best season. I'm not comparing ancient histories because Nebraska's is definitely better, but I think you need to look at history alittle more closely when you make outlandish statements.
When comparing accomplishments over the past 16 years, are you really using divisions as a scale? Iowa has only had division play for 6 seasons while Nebraska has had division play for all 16 of those seasons. Not exactly a fair comparison no? Just like I'm not gonna use Iowa's conference championships over Nebraska because they were under a largely different set of circumstances.
We can certainly use big bowl games, top 10 finishes, top 25 finishes, etc. Not that it's gonna help either one of us feel better. We both want better for our programs but in all honesty, they won't differ much at all in the next couple decades.
I'm so glad you can read the future. Why don't you impress us even more by giving us the results of every game over the next two decades. Shouldn't be too hard since you seem to be able to see the future so well.
Ouch... during your glory days you beat us soundly during our down decades... how embarrassing.
In my opinion it's better to be a has been than a never was. But that's my opinion only.
I'll stop with the outlandish statements as soon as you do. Iowa and Nebraska won't differ much in the next couple of decades? Right...
For the record, my beef is more with guys like arbitr8 and Percyland, whose sole purpose on this board is to troll. You come with thought put into your posts. I may not agree with everything you post, but you don't with me either. That's how it is.
I just wish it didn't have to be your other "fans" who can't carry on intelligent conversations.
Am I on Tigerboard?
Regardless, we seem to all be celebrating what has recently proven to be a good annual game. I think this is more due to both programs performing below expectations.
It is most of the time a cold game, viewed by thise fueled by tryptophan. And the game in the last few years has reflected that.
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