Legislating NIL money…

[RedCap]

Show me one top 10 team that (by all available records) we are out spending. (NIL specific)

Well, do you honestly think every single Top 25 team is outspending Nebraska in terms of having more NIL availability? There are several teams ranked higher than us for results on the field (we're pretty low right now) who have less NIL money. So basically we're "underperforming" in a major way in terms of getting "bang for the buck" for our NIL spending. Everyone can use money as an excuse if they want to blame something but in my opinion those that do blame NIL are just deluding themselves. We were bad way before NIL even became a thing.

 

[jflores]

The same folksy attitudes about good old midwestern common sense and conservative approach and all that that most appreciate is the same thing that will prevent us spending money on players in the way the South would.

You are not going to see Buffett and other folks on drunken benders just shoving money at Trev to make a bunch of high school kids instant millionaires in the hopes we puzzle together a good football team. It’s just not the attitude we have. We pay Sims what 200k, and QBs elsewhere are making single digit millions.

I’m sure those folks feel bad enough about wasting 200k on a guy who basically isn’t going to play this year. I can’t imagine the regret if we had brought a guy in for a million who didn’t pan out.

They’ll put loads of money into facilities and give them the opportunity to be a great team, but Friday Night Lights boosters “it’s all we have and we don’t care what we have to sacrifice to get there” we are not.

And no, since donations have to come from private donors I doubt a state led fund is legal.

 

[Yantzeee]

I'm as conservative as they come. But yes, the love of money destroys a lot of things. It's definitely destroying college FB & BB.

No, your not as conservative as they come. Conservatives generally believe in capitalism.
Don’t want to help pay for a product you enjoy and use, that’s socialism.

 

[Yantzeee]

The same folksy attitudes about good old midwestern common sense and conservative approach and all that that most appreciate is the same thing that will prevent us spending money on players in the way the South would.

You are not going to see Buffett and other folks on drunken benders just shoving money at Trev to make a bunch of high school kids instant millionaires in the hopes we puzzle together a good football team. It’s just not the attitude we have. We pay Sims what 200k, and QBs elsewhere are making single digit millions.

I’m sure those folks feel bad enough about wasting 200k on a guy who basically isn’t going to play this year. I can’t imagine the regret if we had brought a guy in for a million who didn’t pan out.

They’ll put loads of money into facilities and give them the opportunity to be a great team, but Friday Night Lights boosters “it’s all we have and we don’t care what we have to sacrifice to get there” we are not.

And no, since donations have to come from private donors I doubt a state led fund is legal.

Well then it’s not a surprise we are falling further and further behind. Some all act like NIL will disappear because some old ass fans don’t believe it. No one cares what you think. Rules aren’t going to change because you disagree with it.

College football is a massive cash industry. Always has been. You all don’t seem to be bitching at all the people who’ve gotten extremely rich off of college kids backs. All the dam construction companies and the university admins that get hefty kickbacks form vendors and the universities. Stadiums don’t win championship. ADs don’t win Championships. Players win championships. And it’s about time the ones doing they heavy lifting get the fruit. I believe in paying for one’s skill set. But that’s my opinion. And many others too. Including boosters and fans in Texas, Ohio State, USC, Michigan, Georgia, and so on

But we will keep doing things the way it used to be and bang our heads in a wall and wonder why we can’t stop the bleeding.

And for the record, we do not pay anywhere near what others do. We pay a few “ok” one year deals but that’s about it. We will never be competitive until we make NIL a priority, which is something the school currently has zero interest in. They won’t have any interest in it until they start losing money

 

[V-Doub]

Well, do you honestly think every single Top 25 team is outspending Nebraska in terms of having more NIL availability? There are several teams ranked higher than us for results on the field (we're pretty low right now) who have less NIL money. So basically we're "underperforming" in a major way in terms of getting "bang for the buck" for our NIL spending. Everyone can use money as an excuse if they want to blame something but in my opinion those that do blame NIL are just deluding themselves. We were bad way before NIL even became a thing.

Without looking it up, I’d guess 75-80% of the current top 25 are out spending us and 100% of the current top 10.

 

[Yantzeee]

We need to get that south stadium upgraded and get those students closer to the field! (This was the start of the 4th Q - a good deal of it was cleared out before the start of the 2nd half)

Do you really think people left because of the seats? 😂

I’m sure if the seats were a little better people would have stayed tell the very end yesterday. WTF

 

[IdahoHuskerFan]

Do you really think people left because of the seats? 😂

I’m sure if the seats were a little better people would have stayed tell the very end yesterday. WTF

Do you really think my post wasn’t sarcasm.

 

[rgrachek]

Anyone who knows NIL rules… would it be within the scope of NIL rules for Nebraska to legislate a statewide tiny sales tax to pay for athletes?

We’re never gonna compete within the Big 10 when it comes to money, and we saw the difference on the field today. It was the primary reason. There may have been other reasons, but they pay their athletes A LOT better. Money Buys Athletes. Prove otherwise.

We don’t have the wealthy donors like Michigan and we’ll never have Texas Money, unless everyone from the bottom up pays.

Sales Tax. Is It Legal?

The idea that you would even suggest this is a testimony on how sick this has all become. I'm as big a Husker fan as anyone and have been so for over 50 years, but if they did this, I would abandon all support for the Huskers and college sports in general. The notion of taking money that people use to buy their groceries and pay for their housing and transferring it to a bunch of college athletes is probably the worst suggestion I have ever seen on this forum.

 

[rgrachek]

Is a myth

No, he was a real person and it's well documented, just like it's documented that there was a Julius Caesar.

 

[Dean Pope]

I'm as conservative as they come. But yes, the love of money destroys a lot of things. It's definitely destroying college FB & BB.

Correct. I'm amazed at the people on here who go straight to political labels or profanity whenever anyone disagrees with their opinion. It's as if they are not capable of holding an intelligent discussion on anything.

 

[Tetonia]

We have the money it is just being mismanaged. This new 450 million dollar project included 220+ million in private funding and the athletic facilities included over 100 million in private funding. Meanwhile, we spent 10 times less in the portal compared to teams we want to be competitive with, even at key position like QB (1 million is going rate for a good QB and we spent 100k). Georgia's NIL offer to Raoila also far exceeded what we offered. Bottomline, we have the money and talked a good NIL game, but we are being left behind by programs with leadership and boosters who understand the new game.

THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING

So the athletic Department is doing this intentionally? They want us to suck?

 

[Blackshirt316]

So county scholarships? Hilarious what used to be a meme would now be perfectly viable and legal.😄

 

[SLOHusker]

The problem is we have cheap billionaires, Warren buffet could fund the nil money with ease , what about the union pacific there headquarters are in Omaha

There is a ton of monied people and corporations that could help bring in a 20+ million NIL roster.

 

[SLOHusker]

Anyone who doesn't think NIL money on NFL talent at QB, LT, DT, RB, and WR wouldn't radically change this team and it's potential is delusional.

 

[Tetonia]

The idea that you would even suggest this is a testimony on how sick this has all become. I'm as big a Husker fan as anyone and have been so for over 50 years, but if they did this, I would abandon all support for the Huskers and college sports in general. The notion of taking money that people use to buy their groceries and pay for their housing and transferring it to a bunch of college athletes is probably the worst suggestion I have ever seen on this forum.

I know, and I agree. But we’re a bad team because of it. We’re losing to teams who have better athletes who were purchased.

I’m done supporting this program. Am done putting money into it, because this program IS NOT focused on winning. We’ve become a really bad investment, and I hope others do the same.

 

[NUSouth]

Anyone who knows NIL rules… would it be within the scope of NIL rules for Nebraska to legislate a statewide tiny sales tax to pay for athletes?

We’re never gonna compete within the Big 10 when it comes to money, and we saw the difference on the field today. It was the primary reason. There may have been other reasons, but they pay their athletes A LOT better. Money Buys Athletes. Prove otherwise.

We don’t have the wealthy donors like Michigan and we’ll never have Texas Money, unless everyone from the bottom up pays.

Sales Tax. Is It Legal?

We don’t need a tax or wealthy donors. We played an exhibition volleyball game against a University of Nebraska system team to a full stadium plus beer sales. Take all the revenue from that day and use it to get the best football players NIL money can buy.

 

[Tetonia]

We don’t need a tax or wealthy donors. We played an exhibition volleyball game against a University of Nebraska system team to a full stadium plus beer sales. Take all the revenue from that day and use it to get the best football players NIL money can buy.

If it was a priority for them, we wouldn’t be this lame.

 

[huskercabby]

We have the money it is just being mismanaged. This new 450 million dollar project included 220+ million in private funding and the athletic facilities included over 100 million in private funding. Meanwhile, we spent 10 times less in the portal compared to teams we want to be competitive with, even at key position like QB (1 million is going rate for a good QB and we spent 100k). Georgia's NIL offer to Raoila also far exceeded what we offered. Bottomline, we have the money and talked a good NIL game, but we are being left behind by programs with leadership and boosters who understand the new game.

Our leadership has sucked for years. Who are these boosters you speak of? We need to know their names and how much they donate. Are any of these big boosters on this site?

 

[Cedric]

Anyone who knows NIL rules… would it be within the scope of NIL rules for Nebraska to legislate a statewide tiny sales tax to pay for athletes?

We’re never gonna compete within the Big 10 when it comes to money, and we saw the difference on the field today. It was the primary reason. There may have been other reasons, but they pay their athletes A LOT better. Money Buys Athletes. Prove otherwise.

We don’t have the wealthy donors like Michigan and we’ll never have Texas Money, unless everyone from the bottom up pays.

Sales Tax. Is It Legal?

By all means ... with inflation skyrocketing, people unable to afford groceries and gas, let's institute a state tax to pay a bunch of pampered college kids to play a silly game. If you're really serious about this, you either have a helluva lot more disposable income than the average person or you're an absolute idiot.

 

[huskercabby]

The idea that you would even suggest this is a testimony on how sick this has all become. I'm as big a Husker fan as anyone and have been so for over 50 years, but if they did this, I would abandon all support for the Huskers and college sports in general. The notion of taking money that people use to buy their groceries and pay for their housing and transferring it to a bunch of college athletes is probably the worst suggestion I have ever seen on this forum.

I think that type of thinking is happening all across the country. Sad, but true. The end justifies the means.

 

[Tetonia]

By all means ... with inflation skyrocketing, people unable to afford groceries and gas, let's institute a state tax to pay a bunch of pampered college kids to play a silly game. If you're really serious about this, you either have a helluva lot more disposable income than the average person or you're an absolute idiot.

Lol just spitballin buddy. We suck and we’re not gonna stop sucking w/o talent. We don’t have it, and other teams in our neighborhood from a money standpoint are buying theirs. Look around…

 

[ivan brunetti]

Lol just spitballin buddy. We suck and we’re not gonna stop sucking w/o talent. We don’t have it, and other teams in our neighborhood from a money standpoint are buying theirs. Look around…

You will never get a state tax to support Nebraska football.

Nebraska might, however, work with local stores to ask people if they are willing to "round up to the next dollar" and collect change from purchases. $45.07 rounds up to $46, and the difference goes to Husker football.

 

[RedCap]

Without looking it up, I’d guess 75-80% of the current top 25 are out spending us and 100% of the current top 10.

Well you should have done the research. According to our own NIL guru (Lawrence), NU has been highly successful in getting Husker athletes paid. Paid so much that the Huskers are among the Top 10 NIL programs in the country. The Cornhuskers are also reportedly ranked in the Top 5 in the country in individual NIL deals. (As of Spring 2023.)

We're obviously not ranked any where near top 10 or top 5 in our performance on the football field. In other words, yes our return on NIL money really sucks compared to other teams. It's NOT the lack of NIL money, it's the coaching (which includes recruiting choices)!

 

[opie12]

No, your not as conservative as they come. Conservatives generally believe in capitalism.
Don’t want to help pay for a product you enjoy and use, that’s socialism.

My idea is for the Gophers to field a team of Vikings reserves. And add a few Vikings starters for the Michigan & Ohio State games and the Playoff.

At least this would ensure a National Championship. Get a bang for the buck. And keep the students as students.

Now that's real Capitalism & freedom. Get a local judge to rule in our favor if the NCAA tries to stop us.

 

[V-Doub]

Well you should have done the research. According to our own NIL guru (Lawrence), NU has been highly successful in getting Husker athletes paid. Paid so much that the Huskers are among the Top 10 NIL programs in the country. The Cornhuskers are also reportedly ranked in the Top 5 in the country in individual NIL deals. (As of Spring 2023.)

We're obviously not ranked any where near top 10 or top 5 in our performance on the football field. In other words, yes our return on NIL money really sucks compared to other teams. It's NOT the lack of NIL money, it's the coaching (which includes recruiting choices)!

That’s some homer bullshit right there, it’s called cooking the books. First source I found that wasn’t in any way connected to UNL doesn’t have us anywhere near the the top 10 nationally.

The Top 10 NIL Collectives in college football according to On3

In 2021, the Supreme Court reached a landmark decision that allows all college athletes the ability to profit from their own name, image, and likeness (NIL). Since then, there has been a scramble a…

duckswire.usatoday.com

 

[V-Doub]

Well you should have done the research. According to our own NIL guru (Lawrence), NU has been highly successful in getting Husker athletes paid. Paid so much that the Huskers are among the Top 10 NIL programs in the country. The Cornhuskers are also reportedly ranked in the Top 5 in the country in individual NIL deals. (As of Spring 2023.)

We're obviously not ranked any where near top 10 or top 5 in our performance on the football field. In other words, yes our return on NIL money really sucks compared to other teams. It's NOT the lack of NIL money, it's the coaching (which includes recruiting choices)!

Here’s another article listing the “top ten richest NIL schools”. Once again, we are not even mentioned in the article…

Richest College Football Programs by NIL Valuations

According to the Action Network, Texas A&M is the richest college football program by NIL valuation, based on average earnings

nfldraftdiamonds.com

 

[V-Doub]

Well you should have done the research. According to our own NIL guru (Lawrence), NU has been highly successful in getting Husker athletes paid. Paid so much that the Huskers are among the Top 10 NIL programs in the country. The Cornhuskers are also reportedly ranked in the Top 5 in the country in individual NIL deals. (As of Spring 2023.)

We're obviously not ranked any where near top 10 or top 5 in our performance on the football field. In other words, yes our return on NIL money really sucks compared to other teams. It's NOT the lack of NIL money, it's the coaching (which includes recruiting choices)!

Here’s an article listing the top 100 highest paid players vis-à-vis NIL. A virtual who’s who of the best players nation wide. Nebraska doesn’t have a single one…

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/college/football/

 

[V-Doub]

Well you should have done the research. According to our own NIL guru (Lawrence), NU has been highly successful in getting Husker athletes paid. Paid so much that the Huskers are among the Top 10 NIL programs in the country. The Cornhuskers are also reportedly ranked in the Top 5 in the country in individual NIL deals. (As of Spring 2023.)

We're obviously not ranked any where near top 10 or top 5 in our performance on the football field. In other words, yes our return on NIL money really sucks compared to other teams. It's NOT the lack of NIL money, it's the coaching (which includes recruiting choices)!

Here’s another one. This article lists the top 20 schools with the most top 100 NIL deals. Again, Nebraska is not even mentioned…

Which college football teams have the most high-profile NIL player deals? Did Penn State make the list?

By sports website's On3.com's rankings, national champion Georgia also leads the league in potential deal-makers.

www.pennlive.com

 

[V-Doub]

Well you should have done the research. According to our own NIL guru (Lawrence), NU has been highly successful in getting Husker athletes paid. Paid so much that the Huskers are among the Top 10 NIL programs in the country. The Cornhuskers are also reportedly ranked in the Top 5 in the country in individual NIL deals. (As of Spring 2023.)

We're obviously not ranked any where near top 10 or top 5 in our performance on the football field. In other words, yes our return on NIL money really sucks compared to other teams. It's NOT the lack of NIL money, it's the coaching (which includes recruiting choices)!

Oh geez, another one… This one compares the top 10 NIL spenders with last years top 10 final rankings and basically destroys your notion that you don’t have to be a top spender to have top 10-20 success. (also no mention of Nebraska at any point throughout the article)

NIL-top-10 Compared AP-top-10 Nov | Gridiron Heroics

As the season nears the end, explore how NIL-Top-10 aligns with AP Top 10 in November. Does NIL success reflect in AP standings?

gridironheroics.com

So tell me now who has and hasn’t done their research? I’ve been down this road before and I know where it goes. So tell me, do you still believe the local sycophants when they tell you we’re a top NIL team? Fact is we’re not, we can’t generate the private money, and if you can’t, the next best thing is to create the perception you can.

 

[K_Y_E]

We’ve got to pay to drastically improve the roster. It’s that simple. If those in charge have some stupid moral issue with paying these kids, then we aren’t going to change, so get used to what you’re seeing.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

The only bullet in the chamber the athletic dept could fire for an improvement in NIL (that I can think of anyway) would go something this...No donations required for any season tickets, encourage people to donate that to NIL. Publicly state no stadium improvements with private money for a stated amount of time...say, 5 years, encourage the donors to put it in NIL. Since the University can't actually finance NIL (I think fans forget that) this is about all they could do.

 

[Yantzeee]

The idea that you would even suggest this is a testimony on how sick this has all become. I'm as big a Husker fan as anyone and have been so for over 50 years, but if they did this, I would abandon all support for the Huskers and college sports in general. The notion of taking money that people use to buy their groceries and pay for their housing and transferring it to a bunch of college athletes is probably the worst suggestion I have ever seen on this forum.

Oh god, come off your soap box. No one wants your money. I’m crying for the money donors are giving to facilities. Sorry, I strongly agree Taxation is not the way to do NIL. No way. Never.

But you nailed the problem and the problem with NIL in Lincoln. You “over 50 year old fans” are but hurt over NIL and letting the game pass you up. It’s part of the game now. Grow up.

And again, it’s not your money that should be funding this. It’s about the school putting energy in it for large funding in NIL for an endowment and finding good investors to keep that spending out funds. Wish we had a good investor in the state who was a Husker fan who could watch out for a large fund like that. 😉

He promised his wife he wouldn’t give money to football but how about a little time and knowledge

 

[huskerfan1414]

Tax people for football? Is this serious?

 

[V-Doub]

Tax people for football? Is this serious?

A tax is stupid. But we most definitely need to find new, better and more creative ways to generate more private NIL money.

 

[Yantzeee]

Too many people make money off of Nebraska football. More than just the university. It’s only right the give back to actual football. Not some dam ramp.

 

[phoenix4nu]

Tax people for football? Is this serious?

He's just spitballin, lol.

 

[rgrachek]

Oh god, come off your soap box. No one wants your money. I’m crying for the money donors are giving to facilities. Sorry, I strongly agree Taxation is not the way to do NIL. No way. Never.

But you nailed the problem and the problem with NIL in Lincoln. You “over 50 year old fans” are but hurt over NIL and letting the game pass you up. It’s part of the game now. Grow up.

And again, it’s not your money that should be funding this. It’s about the school putting energy in it for large funding in NIL for an endowment and finding good investors to keep that spending out funds. Wish we had a good investor in the state who was a Husker fan who could watch out for a large fund like that. 😉

He promised his wife he wouldn’t give money to football but how about a little time and knowledge

Oh great! Another one of those posts declaring that anyone who calls into question the shit show of the past 3 years and NIL is someone who "has been passed up by the game". You need though to understand that people will vote with their feet. This is and always has been entertainment, and this is a Pandora's box that we've opened. What's going to happen is most of us "old timers", the ones with most of the money, aren't going to pony up, but rather we're going to abandon college sports and find something better to do with our money than give it to some kid who has proven nothing. At that point, the system is dead, whether you like it or not.

BTW, the OP's post was about using tax money, something we seem to agree is not good. Also, I live in Georgia, so it wouldn't affect me one way or another, but it would affect someone on a fixed income or a young family every time they buy groceries. I don't really give a shit what rich private donors do with their money, but I do know from my friends in the various booster clubs for several teams that big donors are getting pretty tired of NIL. They don't mind donating for facilities, but they do mind lining the pockets of players who are both unproven and can now quit and go somewhere else in a heartbeat.

 

[rgrachek]

I know, and I agree. But we’re a bad team because of it. We’re losing to teams who have better athletes who were purchased.

I’m done supporting this program. Am done putting money into it, because this program IS NOT focused on winning. We’ve become a really bad investment, and I hope others do the same.

Just so you know, we've been losing to better rosters for a long time before NIL.

 

[opie12]

Oh god, come off your soap box. No one wants your money. I’m crying for the money donors are giving to facilities. Sorry, I strongly agree Taxation is not the way to do NIL. No way. Never.

But you nailed the problem and the problem with NIL in Lincoln. You “over 50 year old fans” are but hurt over NIL and letting the game pass you up. It’s part of the game now. Grow up.

And again, it’s not your money that should be funding this. It’s about the school putting energy in it for large funding in NIL for an endowment and finding good investors to keep that spending out funds. Wish we had a good investor in the state who was a Husker fan who could watch out for a large fund like that. 😉

He promised his wife he wouldn’t give money to football but how about a little time and knowledge

Paying kids to play football for a college is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in my life.

If the game has passed me by, that's probably a good thing. I should be in the gym myself...instead worrying about what some young football player who has absolutely zero association with me or my school is doing.

 

[RedCap]

Oh geez, another one… This one compares the top 10 NIL spenders with last years top 10 final rankings and basically destroys your notion that you don’t have to be a top spender to have top 10-20 success. (also no mention of Nebraska at any point throughout the article)

NIL-top-10 Compared AP-top-10 Nov | Gridiron Heroics

As the season nears the end, explore how NIL-Top-10 aligns with AP Top 10 in November. Does NIL success reflect in AP standings?

gridironheroics.com

So tell me now who has and hasn’t done their research? I’ve been down this road before and I know where it goes. So tell me, do you still believe the local sycophants when they tell you we’re a top NIL team? Fact is we’re not, we can’t generate the private money, and if you can’t, the next best thing is to create the perception you can.

Well IF you don't trust Lawrence, a Nebraska alum, then what can I say. Personally I'll trust Lawrence over all the other pundits but that's just me I guess.

Money is just being used as an excuse to avoid the real issue: poor judgment in hiring coaches.