My mistake I was talking about WI as I felt they and MSU were the best run defenses we faced. However point still stands with Iowa, MSU also had similar YPC against them yet everyone thinks MSU has a good power run game
Langsdorf a candidate for CFL head coach
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I'm not going to go look up the numbers .. but wisconsin did play Alabama at the beginning of the year
We did run it pretty well this year...when we ran it. Just look at our average ypc in comparison to other Big Ten teams. While fourth in the Big Ten at 4.6 ypc isn't where we would like to be, it certainly isn't as bad as our coaches would make it out to be.
http://www.bigten.org/library/stats/fb-confonly.html
if you look at in conference stats - Nebraska was 7th in the conference in yards per game and 7th in yards per carry
the only reason people identify MSU as a great power team is based on one drive -- MSU averaged 3.8 yards per carry in conference
All of the "We really need Langsdorf to stay" is just BS to me. I'm not wishing he go, by any means. But pretending you can see the future is absurd. Give it a rest. In one year, he is 5-7. That's what we know. To me, if he goes or stays, I'm really not bothered either way.
How can you use yearly or even B1G stats as a tool to objectively analyse our team? As an example our pass defense improved dramatically our last three games. And those comprised our toughest games on the schedule.
based on your predictions heading into the Iowa game ... only a very small sample of which are highlighted below
you have lost the privilege of ever using the phrase "objectively analyse"
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...and stop with the whole Langsdorf is being groomed for the HC position when Riley hangs it up. It's ridiculous to think that he wouldn't move somewhere else (NFL?) if he were successful and the opportunity presented itself.
Because our pass defense sucked this year. These three games do not tell us much imo
MSU 348 yds pass 61% compl 1 int 0- sacks not exactly a stellar performance
Rutgers - 170 yds 51.7% 2 ints 6-sacks - this was a stellar perfomance, the only one of the season
Iowa - 97 yds 56% compl ( 16 total passes) 0 ints 0 -sacks - I call this one an incomplete as Iowa did not try and throw
Why not go back to the last 4 games and include:
Purdue - 274yds 65% compl 0-int 0-sacks to the worst passing team in the conference
Nebraska rushed the ball less than nine Big10 teams so if they were 7th they over achieved
If you won't even acknowledge the improvement on the defensive side of the ball then why go cheer for another team??? Cause your not looking for improvement you just want to slash and burn.
I will acknowledge something when it actually happens - I will cheer for whatever team I want without your permission - I am not going to bury my head in sand on this staff.
7th in yards per carry as well. Ahead of MSU. I bet if we would have just run the ball on every play and never threw a pass we could have led the league in rushing and all would be well
I agree with Riley on the balance thing rush vs pass - I just do not agree that balance means 50/50 - I would like to see us running the ball 60 to 65% of the time - wear the other team down get their safeties up and then let TA do his passing thing - play to our strengths instead of forcing a passing system on a guy who will never be a true passing QB
I would like 60-65% run as well but disagree that we have the offline at present to do that effecrively
Do you not recognize the different mindset of the team after the Purdue game???
This is why i had to check myself yesterday. It's like there are posters that want Riley and his staff gone so bad that nothing else matters. And if they have to burn the program down to do that's perfectly acceptable. Now if your a Husker fan but you loved Bo so much that you have a bloodlust for Riley's head then you are really misguided. But if you're posing as a Husker to take pot shots then you need to leave. I lived in Omaha for a few years and spent a good amount of time in Carter Lake. I would never think of posing as a Hawkeye fan or objective fan at that if i bashed on Captian Kirk. Only to tone it down when i went too far. Why come over here a go on on and how Iowa has to be our rivial in one breath and take shots at Riley with the next???
Lets take this one point at a time :
- Do you not recognize the different mindset of the team after the Purdue game??? - Is it not possible this staff got spooked by the realization their crap wasnt working and their jobs could be in danger after a performamce like this? Husker nation was not happy - maybe they finally did some self evaluation and tried to change - even then our performance against MSU was really not that great - Rutgers was a good game for the defense
- I wondered when the Bo card was going to be played - its getting pretty old and used
- Iowa fans wanted captain Kirk gone at the end of last year - this may have finally moved him to some change which has paid off
Rover let me put it this way to you - Riley and crew are not new to me maybe they are to you. I like Riley he is decent man and has a smart offensive mind. I do not however like his choice in assistants especially his coordinators - I feel they are both lacking and have been that way for some time. it makes me question Riley's overall judgement - same thing for Read look at our special team numbers this year and just not return yards - I think the only way Riley will adjust is due to fan pressure to get better - otherwise you and other fans are going to be pretty pissed off in a couple of years when we are still winning 5-7 games a year
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Gerry all but said that he wasn't listening and playing up to his ability for the coaches. I believe he was speaking for the team as a whole. I also don't like paying a special teams coach a coordinator's salary. Bo's role in how he ran the program HAS played a major role in how this season has played out.
1. You're such an expert. Iowa has the same OC as last year. You know, the same guy everybody laughed at and wanted fired. The difference for them has been the maturation and depth they developed especially at linebacker but also in their lines. Beatherd has avoided most of the mistakes that plagued both of their QBs last year which has made a huge difference. Schematically they changed virtually NOTHING.
2nd. You've done NOTHING BUT TAKE SHOTS at Riley and his staff since the day he was hired. Your negativity is amazing.
Early in the year people said they were going to tire us out with the continual Bo nonsense. They were right. It's impossible to have a conversation here without the crazies coming out and blaming Bo for whatever the issue at hand is.
It makes it hard to look good when your QB does not listen to the coaches. TA always looks for the big play and sometimes it pays off, but most times it doesn't. a few plays that come to mind, chucking it up against Miami, throwing to OZ instead of running forward. The dropped pick by mich state with 1 minute left. The bomb on 4th and 2 when carter was wide open 5 yards in front of the first down. DL needs to work on him extremely hard, or hope POB is college ready.
Well then someone needs to tell Iowa fans and ESPN/BTN there is no such thing as a "new Kirk"
I have stated my opinion on this staff to be sure - I made no bones I was not thrilled with the hire. I also stated I like Riley but really did not like Banker or Read - This team if it loses the bowl game will have lost more games than any NU team since 1957. This is also only the third losing season in modern history for NU. I hate to break it to you but things are not very good right now and the first season for Mike Riley was a complete disaster - hard to be positive given the results on the field
Maybe the next coach will have a chance since Bo will be two coaches removed.
Riley was 3-7 at Oregon State against UCLA and he did not play his last 2 years at Corvallis against the Bruins. Oregon State was 7-6 in 2013 and did not play UCLA who was 10-3. In the 2014 Oregon State was 5-7 (Riley must like that record) and again did not play the 10-3 Bruins. In 2012 just the third time Riley led the Beavers in a win over UCLA, the Bruins finished 9-5. I would say two 10-3 seasons are better than 9-5
No spin. Just facts
Tom, have you had any classes in Logic? While it is true that Riley took the play calling back from Langsdorf at one time - when you make the comment that "nearly every OSU fan will tell you that" you lose all credibility. First of all, I doubt you have interviewed nearly every OSU fan and their opinion doesn't mean that much anyway does it? If the fans are the final word then this staff is already in trouble. The reality is he could have taken it over for several reasons, none of them do I actually know. Maybe Langsdorf was lousey at it, maybe he could use the players to their best potential or maybe Riley just wanted to take it over so he wold be the responsible person and to take the heat off of Langsdorf. I would be curious what your "research" of all fan basses tell you about their satisfaction with play calling? It has been so many years, I really do not recall the last good play caller (by fan opinion) at Nebraska names other than Tom and that was later in his years.
Langsdorf was lousy at it. If it was working, Riley wouldn't have taken it back over. This isn't rocket science. Coaches only tend to make changes when something isn't working...and Langsdorf's play calling wasn't working in that setting.
Sorry but this is false. Langsdorf did have games where he was setting up the opposing defense. BYU and MSU off the top of my head and I'm sure there were more (possibly not though).
Now is he as good as TO was at setting up the opposing defense? Absolutely not.
Seemed like the Minnesota coaching staff had commented on how off balance their defense was against us as well.
What a joke. You totally miss represented your post by using a record that has nothing to do with Mora and HIS UCLA teams. And it only gets worse cause Riley is 1-0 against Mora's UCLA Bruins. A fact you totally left out.
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That's not setting up plays. That is throwing jello at a wall and seeing if it sticks. I agree that no one knows what the heck Langsdorf is going to do because it is often nonsensical.
Then bench him and show some kahunas. But do it early like training a puppy.
Translation: that doesn't fit my narrative so I'll just say Langsdorf is stupid
So Tom, tell us, did the play calling get better under Riley? Stats to prove it? Don't use the stupid comments that everyone knows it and all fans say it is garbage. It could be the play calling wasn't working because he didn't have the horses, I don't know. I am not saying he is good or bad at play calling. I know enough about football to see that he took advantage of the D the best he could but the execution was terrible. Teams had the same strategy and that was to stop our run game and force Tommy to throw. Who wouldn't do that? We were not good enough to keep running it and hoping for that one break. Tommy had clear issues throwing the underneath routes so you now have about half of the offense taken away. Poor O line and no experienced RB's that are top level and he is gong to be a terrible play caller. My question is how do you know? You don't.
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I didn't talk to all but do know a few of their fans through family. Also, it's not that hard to get the vibe of what people were thinking. Check this out:
http://angrybeavs.com/football/7146
Wouldn't you respond well to them if you were prone to them? There comes a point when bad things don't affect you as much because you're over exposed to them. The kid is a turnover machine, I'm sure he's learned to handle them by now..
