Langsdorf a candidate for CFL head coach
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Cue the negative nancies who will hope he gets the job. I think he's an incredibly bright coach and I would hate for us to lose him. He has so many plays with a sophisticated design behind them - when we get the right pieces that fit his scheme, this offense will be powerful. Hell, it was already performing at a high level with pieces that didn't exactly fit what they want.
No, we don't want this to happen. Absolutely not. I doubt people would come out and say they wanted this to happen.
Not seeing any positive to losing DL. He's part of MR's staff, and at this point is looks like MR is going to be here for a while.
I will say it - His play calling was horrible - do you not remember the Illinois game or the 1st down on the 4 in the MSU. He has no feel for calling plays if he leaves Riley takes that duty back over like he did at Oregon State and I do believe Riley is more of a run guy than Langsdorf - He would still be pass first but not as bad
I saw nothing from Langsdorf that would say we want to keep him let alone be sad if he left - TA had better stats under the previous staff ( who was horrible with QB's )
Please tell me what he has done that would tell you he is a good OC for NU
I saw nothing from Langsdorf that would say we want to keep him let alone be sad if he left - TA had better stats under the previous staff ( who was horrible with QB's )
Please tell me what he has done that would tell you he is a good OC for NU
I'm seriously about to get the howitzer out and cause some mass destruction!
Are you SERIOUS!!!!
Langs is a real NFL quarterbacks coach and he decided to come here and help us. We have a quarterback that won't listen to his coaching yet clowns like you want to bang on Langs. Get serious!
Riley needs to concentrate on the team! We need langs to do the heavy lifting with developing the quarterbacks! He needs to stay!
I want DL to stay - period - end of discussion. What he did for E. Manning was incredible and I think he can do the same for POB
There you go with this TA is out to sabotage the team BS - So a player does not listen to his coach - think about this in teacher terms - You have a math teacher and his students are all flunking out, other math teachers seem to do fine but not this one - so what do you do blame it on the teachers students? or maybe you should look at what and how its being taught.
TA - Pass eff - worse, yds/completion - less, comp % - same, more ints, same basic passing yards on more completions
When Fyfe got in he did worse
Offense - Total #37 scoring #45
I ask again what has Langsdorf done that is impressive
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you can't be serious. We had great offensive production other than a QB that is evidently color blind. Having to start over with a new OC and potentially a whole new offense is not something you should hope for. Langsdorf can't help that our QB can't tell the difference in jersey colors.
Langs is playing a major role in fixing the problems. Maybe some don't want it fixed???
I'm out before i go too far. Goodnight.
No I look at the numbers instead of the hype
2014 to 2015
Total offense - #31 to #37 in 2015
Rush - 17 to 71
pass - 80 to 30
scoring - 12 to 45
I do not think #45 in scoring is going to cut it - and no one asked them to completely change the offense this year they decided to go pass happy all on their own. Despite what both Riley and Langsdorf said about playing to strengths
I do not like his offense pure and simple it relies on the pass first and I believe that recipe for failure here - I would love for it to change
Everybody hates their OC, basically, and people pretty much hate play calls everywhere unless they work.
DL is probably not the pinnacle, but he's a pretty darn good OC to have on board. We could certainly do worse, and we may get a chance to test that theory. No guarantee the next guy is going to be Bielema like in running the ball.
Agree with everyone who say to keep him. Hope he stays because we cannot have another season that does not carry over any kind of continuity. The last thing the offensive players need is to be thrown another new system to learn.
Too a certain extent that is correct but there have been some big blunders this year
- Everyone blames TA for throwing the int's but he has been this way his whole career, Why as an OC would you put a QB like this in a position to fail by throwing so much
- Miami - 1st and 10 in OT and we pass instead of being conservative gets intercepted we lose
- Illinois - why call a run/pass option - pass incomplete clock does not run out we lose
- Purdue - worst rush defense in the confer but we throw the ball 45 times with a back up QB - First confer win for Purdue in three years
- Iowa - backed up inside your own ten - defense had been playing very well but we decide to throw - gets picked and run in for a TD - we lose the game by a TD
I've tempered my criticism of Langsdorf, as I am now more inclined to think the play calling looked worse than it was because of the poor decisions made by the QB. It would drive me nuts that NU would constantly throw 25-30 yard patterns on 3rd and 3. How much of that was the QB bailing on the play early and just chucking it downfield?
Our QB and OC did not appear to complement each other very well...
Our QB and OC did not appear to complement each other very well...
It would be disastrous if he left. I'm not a fan of throwing the ball 45 times a game, but the guy is a brilliant qb coach and OC.
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Miami - the play was open, the QB needs to throw that ball where the receiver either gets it or it is long. We were rushing for 4.8 a carry, but I think the philosophy was to carry the mo of the passing game at the end to put them away.
Illinois - it wasn't a run/pass option and Langs has since changed the play name to "quarterback sweep" to make it plain in the future it IS NOT a run/pass option.
Purdue - you got me there, I was pretty down on the staff after that.
Iowa - if Lewis doesn't whiff or if TA loops the ball, that play goes for at least 50 yards
I have been fairly impressed with how the offense is designed and called.
My thinking is I seem to recall how difficult the transition was when Callahan took over. The first year our offense was terrible. Transition years from one system to a totally different system are never easy.
Having said that, this year didn't feel like Callahan's first year at all. We were 69 in total offense and 58 in scoring offense in Callahan's first year. Langsdorf proved much better at transitioning our players from the spread option to the pro style, using the stats you showed. Of course there are exceptions, such as Purdue. I suspect DL would like a do over on that one... But for the most part, I saw enough out of the offense to give me hope for the future if we have the right pieces.
Year 3 was when Callahan saw a big leap, due to the play of Zac Taylor and Brandon Jackson/Marlon Lucky. Will we need to wait for year 3? I sure hope not...
Having said that, this year didn't feel like Callahan's first year at all. We were 69 in total offense and 58 in scoring offense in Callahan's first year. Langsdorf proved much better at transitioning our players from the spread option to the pro style, using the stats you showed. Of course there are exceptions, such as Purdue. I suspect DL would like a do over on that one... But for the most part, I saw enough out of the offense to give me hope for the future if we have the right pieces.
Year 3 was when Callahan saw a big leap, due to the play of Zac Taylor and Brandon Jackson/Marlon Lucky. Will we need to wait for year 3? I sure hope not...
Riley had a much better set of receivers than Callahan did also TA was better than Joe Daley as hard as that is to believe - both however were turnover machines
A passing offense in CFB is not going to work consistently especially at NU. We need to be servicable in passing but it cannot be our first option.
Its easier for us to recruit RB's than it is a pro style QB - We need a more physical offense that does not turn the ball over and we need a physcal attacking defense that gets turnovers if we are ever going to come back
You'll find that these complaints are not unique in CFB. Unless we have someone really high caliber lined up, you probably don't want to be losing DL.
From the perspective of Coach Riley, his guys moving onwards and upwards has some good news to it. If you lose an OC, you can sell a transition year next year as well.
Building on kchuskers post, do you really think Riley is going to bring in a Paul Johnson clone to work with Williams et al? My guess is, the next guy has a similar philosophy as what we have now, but none of the experience of working with Riley and/or the QB whisperer thing that DL has.
I believe it remains to be seen that we can't recruit pro style QB's to Nebraska, as O 'Brien and potentially Gebbia might beg to differ.
I agree that we need to be able to run the ball well and be physical. Recent history supports that when looking at past champions. But if this offense can take care of the ball, it could be very good. I guess the question is, can this offense take care of the ball? We will see...
Our most effective passing offense perhaps ever was facilitated by a 2* QB in Ganz, a 3* receiver in Swift, and another walk-on in Peterson.
We can probably recruit well enough in the future (read at that level) to throw the ball effectively.
rather see what he can do with a good passing qb at NU. we already have a year invested. I think we get a qb that fits riley system, and a lot of things start to click.
not saying I support pass happy, but the powers that b want it so we need to give it time
not saying I support pass happy, but the powers that b want it so we need to give it time
Ganz was a good guy who took 4 years to learn the system but he was also a turnover machine - In 2007 they were going for broke on every play due to the horrible defense. In 2008 the turnovers were still bad both int's and fumbles. The 2008 team also had some really good backs and were ranked #37 in rush offense - this is different from being ranked #70 in rushing
But the point is we even with the best recruiting staff this program has ever had and with an offense perfectly geared for a pro style QB - we played with a JUCO transfer, a QB who got beat out for starting at another school and a 2 star player who had been in the system for 4 years not exactly a glowing record of attracting QB's
But what of this doesnt work. What if Bankers defense is ranked 117th in a year or two and Riley stays with him? So now we have an offense geared to passing instead of running and we are replacing a coach with a guy who is going to run the ball and we have to start all over again.
I believe an AD should set the tone for the program no matter what coach we hire - Some type of power run game is required to be run
