Keegan Johnson
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Aikins was a 3rd round pick at UCF and Still has caught almost as many balls the last two years (46) as Kittle did his whole career at Iowa (48)
3 losing seasons in a row.... 4 losing seasons in 5 years.
We’re pretty irrelevant for high school age kids until we stop the downward slide.
I’ve not lost hope and like a lot of what is coming together on the roster, but if W’s don’t come soon the recruiting will tank. Frost is only recruiting ok because he still has credibility. If losing continues HS kids won’t care what he accomplished 5+ years before.
I agree we need to win, now. But not sure about the recruiting doom and gloom. Our recruiting has been good. We had back to back Top 20 classes and have pulled in some top end guy that we haven’t gotten in years. Some fans are freaking out about losing an instate kid with offers from KSU and Iowa, while just last week we got a verbal from a kid with offers from: Florida, FSU, Miami, Georgia, Penn State, etc.
10.5 per catch for Stoll and 15.4 for Kittle. I don’t understand your argument. TE’s are used for short routes under Frost? That’s a great selling point.
Jordan Akins averaged 16.1 (senior) and 15.1 (junior) ypc under Frost; his best average under the previous staff was 11.3 ypc. Stoll's not the model for his system. Akins was and Fidone is.10.5 per catch for Stoll and 15.4 for Kittle. I don’t understand your argument. TE’s are used for short routes under Frost? That’s a great selling point.
This. Nebraska can thump it’s chest about greatness 20 years ago (which is valid) but that doesn’t translate to high school kids committing. The best recruiters in world can only do so much. The losing seasons didn’t happen in a vacuum. Recruits want to win now, and a chance at the nfl. The numbers in recent history are not on Nebraska’s side.
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Then why does Nebraska still consistently out recruit Iowa. Perhaps Nebraska has more to sell than you want to believe.
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From the father today, says it all. It's why Iowa was the easy choice:
Clester: Let me tell you, I want to commend Scott Frost and his staff. Those guys are great coaches and did a fabulous job recruiting him. At the end of the day, what it comes down to is winning. If you go back 5 years, when Keagan was 12 and starts paying attention to college football more, they like people who are winners. C.J. and Cade when they grew up, they liked USC because of Reggie Bush. It's not my Nebraska today. They can see not winning and not going to bowl games. Do I want to go down there and be a part of that? When do I think things will get going again? Will it be a couple years? Three years? Four years? He wants to go to a place where things are rolling pretty good and he wants to help enhance that.
They out-recruit Iowa? According to what, a Rivals recruiting ranking? What matters most is how does recruiting translate to performance on the field. For the past 20 years Iowa has been better--20 years! You can have your recruiting rankings-- I'll take on the field performance.
If that’s the case, Nebraska can keep out recruiting Iowa till the end of time for all I care. You win in June, we win in November.
Slice it how ever you want, Iowa has had the better program by on-the-field performance for the past 20 years now. Throw in all the lame ass excuses you want, but doesn't change the result.
Again, from the father of Keagan Johnson today as how Nebraska is today vs. his day in the mid 1990's. He actually played for NE while you were hugging your Husker teddy bear in the stands:
Clester: Let me tell you, I want to commend Scott Frost and his staff. Those guys are great coaches and did a fabulous job recruiting him. At the end of the day, what it comes down to is winning. If you go back 5 years, when Keagan was 12 and starts paying attention to college football more, they like people who are winners. C.J. and Cade when they grew up, they liked USC because of Reggie Bush. It's not my Nebraska today. They can see not winning and not going to bowl games. Do I want to go down there and be a part of that? When do I think things will get going again? Will it be a couple years? Three years? Four years? He wants to go to a place where things are rolling pretty good and he wants to help enhance that.
Except you haven’t been. Over the best stretch in Iowa history and the worst stretch in Nebraska history, you still aren’t better. That’s pretty sad. Not as sad as running to another teams message board to flap your gums, but pathetic none the less.
Better by two games in 20 years, son. Nebraska's fired four coaches for that much failure. You guys are gonna build a Ferentz statue and paint a mural on your bus for the guy. If only he had more NFL talent, amirite?
Clester knows. Clester also knows Nebraska will be back, too. Enjoy your pinnacle because these two programs are ships passing in the night and Iowa can't go where Nebraska was or where they'll be again.
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Love how some of you have been turned inside out and have such a hatred now for Iowa out of one thing- envy. Dude, stop being so consumed by Iowa.
You really think Iowa is impressive. If only there was a board where someone might agree.
Does this trolling and shit talking really make you feel good about Iowa or yourself? Because, honestly it is pathetic. But it is the Iowa way apparently.
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At the end of the day, what it comes down to is winning. If you go back 5 years, when Keagan was 12 and starts paying attention to college football more, they like people who are winners. C.J. and Cade when they grew up, they liked USC because of Reggie Bush. It's not my Nebraska today. They can see not winning and not going to bowl games. Do I want to go down there and be a part of that? When do I think things will get going again? Will it be a couple years? Three years? Four years? He wants to go to a place where things are rolling pretty good and he wants to help enhance that.
5 years. Nebraska's been really bad for about five years and good on Johnson for paying attention. Iowa's been Iowa forever. They're 7-10 wins and a December bowl game. Book it. That's purgatory, you deserve it.
Even you can see the irony of posting this on a Nebraska message board, right? If you aren’t worried about Nebraska and aren’t jealous of Nebraska why are you spending so much time here, begging for validation?
It is one thing, but it sure as hell isn't envy. It’s posters like you. But you already know that, and you love playing the troll role.
Lol @ all the trolls from other universities cluttering the husker board.
Clester’s a big boy... he knew he would take some heat. I’m sure he’s not getting too bent out of shape.
You feel better now that you were able to rub it in?
LOL at the losers spending their time running their mouths on another teams message board. This obsession is getting creepy.
Agreed. I never meant to say recent recruiting is awful. It’s been solid especially considering circumstances.
These are just tough close to home losses. But recruiting will surely diminish if W’s don’t come.
As for Clester’s quote:
1. I get it. I do.
2. F*kk that- sounds like someone wanting it easy and bailing on their alma mater not wanting to be part of the solution. Husker Nation needs some unity of purpose right now, and former National Champs should want to be part of that taking the challenge head on- not running away from Florida Orange Bowl curse. Nat Champs didn’t come to those who gave up on the vision and Clester should know.
Time to get the kids who wanna believe. I hope so much the turnaround happens while the kids who bailed are still playing to see it up close and personal.
Yep, this thread was as bad as they said it would be. From both sides.
Lol....Iowa fans are trash.....that is all..
Yep, this thread was as bad as they said it would be. From both sides.
No, there is more about college football then just winning.
See Penn State there.
LOL, Better look up 1971 season than..
Beating the 2, 3 and 4 ranked teams..
Going back to Iowa, Ohio St never lost did they that season and Iowa lost to Iowa St and USC...
So Nebraska, Michigan and Ohio St were National Champs... Iowa lost to Iowa St... Let that sink in.
Yes,Fry was still rebuilding at Iowa in the early 80's. I wouldn't be bragging about losing to ISU either. LOL BTW, that 1992 Iowa State team lost to Iowa, that was ISU's 10th loss in a row, and a losing streak that lasted 15 games. LOL
No one is bragging about losing to ISU. Following that ISU loss, Nebraska lost one game the next three years. That’s why it was an upset, like losing to Iowa in 81. Your ignorance is shocking. Even for an Iowa fan.
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Yes, your correct. However, tOSU won the national championship that year. Are you going to look down on Ohio State for tying Iowa as big ten champs? I doubt it. You can't do much if you don't meet on the field. I bet a lot of Penn State fans were unhappy to finish undefeated and finish second to Nebraska when Nebraska won by a vote. Who knows the outcome if they played the game. Same with Iowa vs Ohio State, anything can happen.
Yeah, I am ignorant, and were talking about games 30 and 40 years ago. LOL
I'm a Husker fan, it is why I am here. But I don't buy into the manufactured "rivalry" between Iowa and Nebraska.
That said, Iowa has most definitely been better than Nebraska in recruiting and in playing. Since 2015, Iowa has had 20 NFL draft picks, 4 in the first round. Nebraska has had 11, 0 in the first round. And that margin will widen next year.
That said, Iowa has most definitely been better than Nebraska in recruiting and in playing. Since 2015, Iowa has had 20 NFL draft picks, 4 in the first round. Nebraska has had 11, 0 in the first round. And that margin will widen next year.
Stolls not the only tight end in the room that was touted coming into college. Where's the development?
You’re hitching your ride to a TE that played against AAC defenses and wasn’t recruited by Frost? Hockenson and Fant’s numbers blow Akins out of the water. 4 TD’s his senior year? Jock and Fant had more playing on the same team, their third year on campus.
You can’t argue that Kirk is proven, while Frost is still a question mark.
Lol....the entire Iowa fan playbook has been played out ITT and here we have the “we don’t have an elite history of college football relevance, but at least our program is clean” fan.....No, there is more about college football then just winning.
BTW, the mother of at least one sexual assault victim doesn’t think highly of KF or the Iowa football program..
Yes, your correct. However, tOSU won the national championship that year. Are you going to look down on Ohio State for tying Iowa as big ten champs? I doubt it. You can't do much if you don't meet on the field. I bet a lot of Penn State fans were unhappy to finish undefeated and finish second to Nebraska when Nebraska won by a vote. Who knows the outcome if they played the game. Same with Iowa vs Ohio State, anything can happen.
Never said Penn St didn’t deserve their share but they made their bed joining a conference that would have rather go play in the Rose Bowl than play for the National Title..
I’m not looking down on Ohio St or iowa for sharing the title, but you can’t claim it outright can you and iowa didn’t go unbeaten did they ? and I did mention tOSU won the National title you didn’t have to retype it when I told you in the first place.
And only two other seasons where they were ranked at all. That's right despite all the stability, the best run in Iowa football has had them even ranked about a third of the time.
Despite having 5 different Head Coaches, Nebraska has been ranked 9 times. Nebraska has also played for a National Championship, Iowa has not. Nebraska has played in 4 Conference Championships, Iowa 1. Nebraska has won their division outright 3 times, Iowa 1. Nebraska has at least shared their division 7 times, Iowa 3. And that is comparing the best 20 years of Iowa football to one of the worst for Nebraska. So spare us all the mighty Iowa talk.
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