Keegan Johnson

[timnsun]

Its not my fault you had no clue what you were talking about.

I didn't pull the rule book out until you came back with this:

Sorry, I just got to ask… Did you really think he was referring to where Spielman might further his education? Was that really what you thought he was talking about? It should have been obvious, he was referring to continuing his opportunity to play football. And you couldn’t figure that out?

Edit: let me take it a step further... people not playing sports don’t answer to the NCAA, correct? What did you think @CatColumbia was talking about when he was referencing JD? If he was only interested in grades this is a moot point. Neither Frost nor the NCAA can say anything to him about where he goes. So why are you quoting a sports rule book if sports aren’t an issue?

 

[headcard]

Jack Stoll was draft eligible this year. I’m not sure about what he had at UCF. I understand what you’re saying though.

Still didn’t declare, so I didn’t count him. But, yes that argument will have to go out the window after Stoll isn’t drafted next year. Hopefully, I will be able to pivot to “well we got Fidone, so we are set at TE for the next several years.”

 

[ShaggynScooby]

We are checking off every square on the obsessed Iowa fan BINGO card today. First, offers too many players. Now, throws everyone under the buss.

You are right about one thing, you are no Colorado. They actually have won something of substance and occasionally went toe to toe with us, at our best.

. I think you would have to consider that Iowa defeated Nebraska at their best back in what, 1980 or 1981, 10-7 in Kinnick Stadium when Nebraska was ranked in the top 10, and since Iowa has the current win streak, I would say Iowa goes toe to toe with Nebraska. I actually attended Iowa State, and Iowa State did not go toe to toe with Nebraska.

 

[headcard]

I actually think Iowa goes toe to toe with Nebraska. LOL, if not, Nebraska would have the current winning streak.

Iowa beats Nebraska on last second FG’s at the lowest point in Nebraska’s history. I know it fills you with so much pride, you feel the need to run here and pound your chest, but it is hardly the same thing as going toe to toe with Nebraska at it’s peak.

 

[ShaggynScooby]

Iowa beats Nebraska on last second FG’s at the lowest point in Nebraska’s history. I know it fills you with so much pride, you feel the need to run here and pound your chest, but it is hardly the same thing as going toe to toe with Nebraska at it’s peak.

dude, I went to Iowa State, I am just pointing out a fact. LOL I am actually more of a Florida Gator fan since I have lived in North Florida since 1990.

 

[headcard]

dude, I went to Iowa State, I am just pointing out a fact. LOL

I think your reading comprehension needs work. I said Colorado has actually won something of substance (1990 National Championship) and went toe to toe with Nebraska at our peak. Iowa cannot claim either.

 

[TFrazier]

dude, I went to Iowa State, I am just pointing out a fact. LOL I am actually more of a Florida Gator fan since I have lived in North Florida since 1990.

 

[ShaggynScooby]

LOL You know, I grew up in western Iowa. My father was an Iowa fan. My mother was an Iowa State fan and my sister was a Nebraska fan, so I grew up in the middle, actually rooting for all three...Unless they played each other of course. I actually check out all three rival sites, but am more amused by this one and Iowa's. The constant bickering between the two fan bases is rather childish. LOL Childish, but amusing, especially for those who think there is no rivalry. Both schools have tradition, and I am sure neither husker fans nor Hawkeye fans would trade for the other's history. Now Iowa State fans would trade for either. LOL Carry on.

 

[headcard]

. I think you would have to consider that Iowa defeated Nebraska at their best back in what, 1980 or 1981, 10-7 in Kinnick Stadium when Nebraska was ranked in the top 10, and since Iowa has the current win streak, I would say Iowa goes toe to toe with Nebraska. I actually attended Iowa State, and Iowa State did not go toe to toe with Nebraska.

82, 99, 00 were Top 5 type Nebraska teams and all killed Iowa. ISU beat a solid Nebraska team in 92, that would have been equal to Iowa’s 81 win.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

LOL You know, I grew up in western Iowa. My father was an Iowa fan. My mother was an Iowa State fan and my sister was a Nebraska fan, so I grew up in the middle, actually rooting for all three...Unless they played each other of course. I actually check out all three rival sites, but am more amused by this one and Iowa's. The constant bickering between the two fan bases is rather childish. LOL Childish, but amusing, especially for those who think there is no rivalry. Both schools have tradition, and I am sure neither husker fans nor Hawkeye fans would trade for the other's history. Now Iowa State fans would trade for either. LOL Carry on.

you don't think iowa fans would trade their history for ours?

 

[headcard]

you don't think iowa fans would trade their history for ours?

They would trade their history for a ham sandwich.

 

[TFrazier]

LOL You know, I grew up in western Iowa. My father was an Iowa fan. My mother was an Iowa State fan and my sister was a Nebraska fan, so I grew up in the middle, actually rooting for all three...Unless they played each other of course. I actually check out all three rival sites, but am more amused by this one and Iowa's. The constant bickering between the two fan bases is rather childish. LOL Childish, but amusing, especially for those who think there is no rivalry. Both schools have tradition, and I am sure neither husker fans nor Hawkeye fans would trade for the other's history. Now Iowa State fans would trade for either. LOL Carry on.

 

[SWIowahawks]

Still didn’t declare, so I didn’t count him. But, yes that argument will have to go out the window after Stoll isn’t drafted next year. Hopefully, I will be able to pivot to “well we got Fidone, so we are set at TE for the next several years.”

Ok. So draft eligible was the wrong wording. Fidone would be huge for Nebraska upping the position in the future. Iowa, however, is already set at TE. Don’t take that out of context and think I’m saying losing Fidone wouldn’t be a big deal. But it’s not going to be the end of the world for the Hawks.

As to Nebraska/Frost and TE’s, I understand your argument but I’ll see if I can make a good comparison. Would you rather hitch your future to a stock that has shown to grow exponentially every quarter or a stock that just opened up and has no/very little track record? The new stock COULD be as good as the already proven stock, but it could also lose you money or get you a smaller return. Are you going to take the risk?

 

[headcard]

Ok. So draft eligible was the wrong wording. Fidone would be huge for Nebraska upping the position in the future. Iowa, however, is already set at TE. Don’t take that out of context and think I’m saying losing Fidone wouldn’t be a big deal. But it’s not going to be the end of the world for the Hawks.

As to Nebraska/Frost and TE’s, I understand your argument but I’ll see if I can make a good comparison. Would you rather hitch your future to a stock that has shown to grow exponentially every quarter or a stock that just opened up and has no/very little track record? The new stock COULD be as good as the already proven stock, but it could also lose you money or get you a smaller return. Are you going to take the risk?

I know you Iowa fans think Iowa is TE U , or whatever, and Kirk Farentz and his staff are God's gift to college football and that's fine. Honestly I'm tired of going back and forth about it. You simply aren't going to convince Nebraska fans that what Iowa is right now, is as impressive as you think it is and we aren't going to convince you that we aren't going to be Rutgers for the rest of eternity.

As far as Fidone goes, who knows what he is thinking. I was just trying to explain to one of the new trolls, that pointing out how long it's been since Nebraska has had a TE drafted probably isn't as relevant as this staffs track record and usage of TE's.

 

[GarryO37]

It’s screwed up, I can’t believe he’s letting Ferentz and Iowa dictate his recruitment. He went from wanting to visit both Iowa and Nebraska and trying to schedule a visit with KSU to suddenly he’s ready to commit just because Iowa MIGHT not have a spot for him if the other WR commits. I’d say screw Iowa and keep on the path he was on.

Iowa is not known for pressuring kids to commit. According to a number of players that have been recruited by Iowa, Iowa preaches that recruits make the best decision for themselves even if it’s not Iowa. Iowa is also known for not accepting commitments from players until they visit Iowa because they want the players to be 100% sure before they commit. That said, the coaching staff is very honest up front about how many at each position they are taking in a given year, as are many schools, and even that’s not set in stone when they really like a player.

There’s still another receiver Iowa will most likely take this year if he wants to play for Iowa. Iowa would have taken Johnson whether or not he committed before this other receiver in my opinion.

 

[NDAFArly]

That’s what the B1G is telling Scott Frost. LOL
The savior who is three years in & 9-15 in one of the weakest divisions in P5 football.

 

[timnsun]

That’s what the B1G is telling Scott Frost. LOL
The savior who is three years in & 9-15 in one of the weakest divisions in P5 football.

Sorry... 3 years in and only 24 games... math hard for you?

 

[headcard]

Sorry... 3 years in and only 24 games... math hard for you?

He has posted the same thing in two different threads. He wants to troll and doesn't even know how long the coach has been here. What an idiot.

 

[frydaze]

If Iowa were to win 10 games every season and Nebraska went winless every season it would STILL take Iowa 25 years to win as many games as Nebraska has won as of right now and over a decade to even tie up the head to head series.

You are making every Iowa fan's point for them and a poster child for the Husker way of thought of many:

You're living deep in the past starting with your screenname. Christ dude, when have the Blackshirts truly the "blackshirts"? 20 years ago? One of the most porous defenses in college football for years resides in Lincoln. Do you also wear bell bottoms, leisure suits, and have a mullet? You're wanting to envision MANY years gone by. This isn't about Iowa, or Ohio State, or Wisconsin-- three schools that have made Nebraska look foolish in recent years (how many games in a row have you lost to these three now?).

Instead, it's an indictment of living in the past--the past that's now 20 years in your rear view mirror. (FYI- Iowa has won more football games over the past 20 years than has Nebraska). Now you're even losing kids in your own back yard to Iowa and Minnesota.

Continue to live in the glory of the past dude.

 

[frydaze]

Tired argument from a fan base of a never was team. Try as you might, there is no diminishing Nebraska’s history, this is where Iowa fans show their true lil bro complex colors. No matter what you idiots think, the fact is that Nebraska is an all time top 8 program. Take your 5 years of glory and GTFO.

Check Iowa's record over the past 20 years and check Nebraska's and while at it, during those last 20 years, check final top 10 rankings of both schools (Iowa has 4)-- then get back to us with the results.

 

[headcard]

You are making every Iowa fan's point for them and a poster child for the Husker way of thought of many:

You're living deep in the past starting with your screenname. Christ dude, when have the Blackshirts truly the "blackshirts"? 20 years ago? One of the most porous defenses in college football for years resides in Lincoln. Do you also wear bell bottoms, leisure suits, and have a mullet? You're wanting to envision MANY years gone by. This isn't about Iowa, or Ohio State, or Wisconsin-- three schools that have made Nebraska look foolish in recent years.

Instead, it's an indictment of living in the past--the past that's now 20 years in your rear view mirror. (FYI- Iowa has won more football games over the past 20 years than has Nebraska). Now you're even losing kids in your own back yard to Iowa and Minnesota.

Continue to live in the glory of the past dude.

And you, Iowa fan running his mouth on the Nebraska board, are the poster boy for everything wrong with Iowa. Never accomplished a thing, standing in the back of the room talking shit about everyone else. You are so insecure you have to run here and post crap like this, hoping someone will validate you and your never has been program. But hey congrats on winning a recruiting battle for a three star kid and whatever else you are so proud of. A last second victory over Nebraska and a trophy with a pig on it?

 

[frydaze]

And you, Iowa fan running his mouth on the Nebraska board, are the poster boy for everything wrong with Iowa. Never accomplished a thing, standing in the back of the room talking shit about everyone else. You are so insecure you have to run here and post crap like this, hoping someone will validate you and your never has been program. But hey congrats on winning a recruiting battle for a three star kid and whatever else you are so proud of. A last second victory over Nebraska and a trophy with a pig on it?

LOL, I love seeing a delusional, living in yesteryear fanatic, beside himself and making himself look like a fool.

 

[frydaze]

And you, Iowa fan running his mouth on the Nebraska board, are the poster boy for everything wrong with Iowa. Never accomplished a thing, standing in the back of the room talking shit about everyone else. You are so insecure you have to run here and post crap like this, hoping someone will validate you and your never has been program. But hey congrats on winning a recruiting battle for a three star kid and whatever else you are so proud of. A last second victory over Nebraska and a trophy with a pig on it?

Check Iowa's record over the past 20 years and check Nebraska's and while at it, during those last 20 years, check final top 10 rankings of both schools (Iowa has 4)-- then get back to us with the results.

 

[headcard]

LOL, I love seeing a delusional, living in yesteryear fanatic, beside himself and making himself look like a fool.

A never has been, pounding his chest over Pelini Light results, truly sad.

 

[frydaze]

A never has been, pounding his chest over Pelini Light results, truly sad.

From one of your own fans in this very thread. He pretty much sums it up while some jock sniffer NE fans like you refuse to live in reality. And yes, call us DADDY :

As a die-hard Nebraska fan, I think the glory days are over and they will not be coming back. Iowa is now our daddy. Let's just throw up the white flag and ask for leniency.

 

[headcard]

Check Iowa's record over the past 20 years and check Nebraska's and while at it, during those last 20 years, check final top 10 rankings of both schools (Iowa has 4)-- then get back to us with the results.

So your huge flex is that you think you have been better the last 20 years.

Nebraska: 159-98, 9 Top 25 finishes.
Iowa: 161-94, 7 Top 25 finishes.

Iowa has two more wins. Nebraska has two more Top 25 finishes, three more Conference Championship game appearances and one more National Championship game appearance. So in Iowa's best ever stretch and Nebraska's worst, Iowa still doesn't measure up.

 

[headcard]

From one of your own fans in this very thread. He pretty much sums it up while some jock sniffer NE fans like you refuse to live in reality. And yes, call us DADDY :

As a die-hard Nebraska fan, I think the glory days are over and they will not be coming back. Iowa is now our daddy. Let's just throw up the white flag and ask for leniency.

I would think a troll could spot another troll. But no one ever accused you guys of being intelligent.

 

[HuskerHusaria]

Sorry, I just got to ask… Did you really think he was referring to where Spielman might further his education? Was that really what you thought he was talking about? It should have been obvious, he was referring to continuing his opportunity to play football. And you couldn’t figure that out?

Edit: let me take it a step further... people not playing sports don’t answer to the NCAA, correct? What did you think @CatColumbia was talking about when he was referencing JD? If he was only interested in grades this is a moot point. Neither Frost nor the NCAA can say anything to him about where he goes. So why are you quoting a sports rule book if sports aren’t an issue?

Iowa St will never ever begin to be a rival. Their admin can keep licking door knobs

 

[aflachawk]

definitely. This could be a move just to lock Iowa’s spot down and he could still look into KSUcks and the Huskers as well. He won’t sign Wednesday and it will be far from over.

Except Kirk shuts down the recruitment of guys who are committed. Will pull offer if they shop around on visits. So, no.

that's usually the way it happens but not always. Communication with coaches is the key

 

[Rubrum_Magnus_Virtus]

What are the odds all of these ahole Iowa fans are 20 somethings? I can understand why a 20 something Iowa fan would want to try and compare the two programs, they have no life experience or perspective.

Iowa fans are the trash of college football fandom no matter their age.

 

[Rubrum_Magnus_Virtus]

Iowa State is to Iowa what Iowa is to Nebraska, apples to apples comparison.....

@SWIowahawks

 

[headcard]

What are the odds all of these ahole Iowa fans are 20 somethings? I can understand why a 20 something Iowa fan would want to try and compare the two programs, they have no life experience or perspective.

Iowa fans are the trash of college football fandom no matter their age.

The culture of fans in the B1G, especially Iowa fans has been shocking to me. I really had no idea how ridiculous they were before joining the B1G.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I am late to the party. Has anyone mentioned that we didn't want him anyway? We pulled the offer a couple of weeks ago??

 

[hedonistimpulse]

You are making every Iowa fan's point for them and a poster child for the Husker way of thought of many:

You're living deep in the past starting with your screenname. Christ dude, when have the Blackshirts truly the "blackshirts"? 20 years ago? One of the most porous defenses in college football for years resides in Lincoln. Do you also wear bell bottoms, leisure suits, and have a mullet? You're wanting to envision MANY years gone by. This isn't about Iowa, or Ohio State, or Wisconsin-- three schools that have made Nebraska look foolish in recent years (how many games in a row have you lost to these three now?).

Instead, it's an indictment of living in the past--the past that's now 20 years in your rear view mirror. (FYI- Iowa has won more football games over the past 20 years than has Nebraska). Now you're even losing kids in your own back yard to Iowa and Minnesota.

Continue to live in the glory of the past dude.

The last 20 years? Better scale that back to ten....

Iowa W/L 2000-2009: 80-45
Nebraska W/L 2000-2009: 84-44

Iowa W/L 2010-2019: 81-49
Nebraska W/L 2010-2019: 75-54

We can keep it a 20 years though, that's fine.

2000-2019:

Nebraska has played in one National Championship game.
Iowa has played in zero.

Nebraska has played in four conference championship games.

Iowa has played in one, but shared two championships.
*Nebraska would have shared the Big XII conference title with Oklahoma in 2010 had the Big XII not had a conference championship game.

Let's look at some factors, though.

Iowa's HCs during that time: Kirk Ferentz

Nebraska's HCs during that time: Frank Solich, Bo Pelini (interim), Bill Callahan, Bo Pelini, Barney Cotton (interim), Mike Riley, Scott Frost

Nebraska has done literally EVERYTHING to try to elevate their success during this time including changing offensive schemes at least four times and going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense just three years ago.

On top of that, they had the added handicap of changing conferences and having to familiarize themselves with an entirely different region of teams and their playing styles.

Iowa instead stayed the course and played against mostly the same teams they have for decades...and Ol' Steady Eddie racked up 2, yes 1+1, more wins than Nebraska during that 20 year span.

Congrats, Hawks. Huge ups. Best 20 years of your football lives.

 

[headcard]

The last 20 years? Better scale that back to ten....

Iowa W/L 2000-2009: 80-45
Nebraska W/L 2000-2009: 84-44

Iowa W/L 2010-2019: 81-49
Nebraska W/L 2010-2019: 75-54

We can keep it a 20 years though, that's fine.

2000-2019:

Nebraska has played in one National Championship game.
Iowa has played in zero.

Nebraska has played in four conference championship games.

Iowa has played in one, but shared two championships.
*Nebraska would have shared the Big XII conference title with Oklahoma in 2010 had the Big XII not had a conference championship game.

Let's look at some factors, though.

Iowa's HCs during that time: Kirk Ferentz

Nebraska's HCs during that time: Frank Solich, Bo Pelini (interim), Bill Callahan, Bo Pelini, Barney Cotton (interim), Mike Riley, Scott Frost

Nebraska has done literally EVERYTHING to try to elevate their success during this time including changing offensive schemes at least four times and going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense just three years ago.

On top of that, they had the added handicap of changing conferences and having to familiarize themselves with an entirely different region of teams and their playing styles.

Iowa instead stayed the course and played against mostly the same teams they have for decades...and Ol' Steady Eddie racked up 2, yes 1+1, more wins than Nebraska during that 20 year span.

Congrats, Hawks. Huge ups. Best 20 years of your football lives.

 

[SWIowahawks]

I know you Iowa fans think Iowa is TE U , or whatever, and Kirk Farentz and his staff are God's gift to college football and that's fine. Honestly I'm tired of going back and forth about it. You simply aren't going to convince Nebraska fans that what Iowa is right now, is as impressive as you think it is and we aren't going to convince you that we aren't going to be Rutgers for the rest of eternity.

As far as Fidone goes, who knows what he is thinking. I was just trying to explain to one of the new trolls, that pointing out how long it's been since Nebraska has had a TE drafted probably isn't as relevant as this staffs track record and usage of TE's.

The last 15 TE’s that have started for Iowa have been drafted or signed as a free agent. I’m not inflating anything. It’s simple fact. You go to Iowa and start as a TE, you ARE going to play in the NFL. It’s also proven that you can make more money than you or I have dreamed of. It hasn’t been proven at Nebraska or with Frost. You absolutely can not deny that.

 

[Red I 73]

I know you Iowa fans think Iowa is TE U , or whatever, and Kirk Farentz and his staff are God's gift to college football and that's fine. Honestly I'm tired of going back and forth about it. You simply aren't going to convince Nebraska fans that what Iowa is right now, is as impressive as you think it is and we aren't going to convince you that we aren't going to be Rutgers for the rest of eternity.

As far as Fidone goes, who knows what he is thinking. I was just trying to explain to one of the new trolls, that pointing out how long it's been since Nebraska has had a TE drafted probably isn't as relevant as this staffs track record and usage of TE's.

"This staffs track record and usage of TE's." Would you point out to me exactly what the track record of the past two years for using TE. The room has size and some talent. Is there a lack of confidence in the TE or game planning? This is an element of the team I was excited to be see used, but so far they have been none existent.

 

[HominidHusker]

Why? Watts was a much better recruit than Johnson. If Johnson wasn’t an instate kid fans would throw a fit about taking his commit, now the sky is falling because he isn’t coming here?

To answer this- Watts and Johnson are similarly ranked players from Rivals and 247. Dickerson obviously higher ranked.

But it’s much more about optics for me, and Frost achieving his goal of keeping local talent here. Not that any of the three players are irreplaceable, but there’s a clear advantage to locking down homegrown talent. Johnson being a legacy kid doesn’t help.

Watts was more of a one off for me, but now losing 3 local kids we wanted? Not a good look. Two to division rivals?? Even worse.

Sure we’ve landed some other local talent, but we don’t produce enough talent to miss on 3 in 2 years.

I won’t blame coaches even as I don’t know what happened, but no question it’s a bad situation.

There’s an easy fix- the oft-beaten deader than dead equine.... winning some games.

I’ll like our recruiting chances much more once we can prove something on the field. The recent negative trajectory is getting dangerously close to the point of no return.

We get W’s and new facilities and recruiting will pick up— and it hasn’t been awful, but also attrition has made it worse.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

"This staffs track record and usage of TE's." Would you point out to me exactly what the track record of the past two years for using TE. The room has size and some talent. Is there a lack of confidence in the TE or game planning? This is an element of the team I was excited to be see used, but so far they have been none existent.

This staff's usage of tight ends includes Frost and Lubbick's time as OCs at Oregon and the way Frost used Jordan Akins at UCF.

I don't know everything about Nebraska football, but I know Jack Stoll, for all his contributions, is not the model TE for this system.

 

[SWIowahawks]

Iowa State is to Iowa what Iowa is to Nebraska, apples to apples comparison.....

@SWIowahawks