Jammal Lord/Adrian Martinez
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https://huskers.com/sports/football/roster/taylor-martinez/15052
- First-Team All-Big Ten (Coaches, 2012)
Right that 2010 defense was awful. #9 in total defense with an All-American DT and All-American CB.
2011: 42nd
2012: 57th
2013: 50th
Huskers D under AM:
2018: 88th
2019: 67th
2020: 64th
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Healthy Taylor Martinez was a DUUUUUUUDDE! Yeah his motion was ugly, but dude was phenomenal when healthy. I remember the Okie St. game when he lit it up passing and running. Guy got it done when healthy.
You said he was B10 Player of the Year though.
I'll correct myself on him never being 1st Team All Big 10. He was.
Right that 2010 defense was awful. #9 in total defense with an All-American DT and All-American CB.
2011: 42nd
2012: 57th
2013: 50th
Huskers D under AM:
2018: 88th
2019: 67th
2020: 64th
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I wonder how much Amarts turnovers impacted the defense…
I did? I must be going crazy in my old age.. be a pal and show I wrote that so I can edit it.
I do believe Tmart was the co- offensive player of the year, but the official award went to Braxton. I could be remembering incorrectly though.
TMart: 29 INTs
AMart: 21 INTs
Very similar with a year left for AM.
While fumbles aren't an official and trackable stat, I'd be absolutely floored if Amart has had more fumbles per game than TMart.
yeap, dan and buck fumbled alot when solich went from rb coach to head coach, so he made crouch run alot, got crouch the heisman, but made us one dimensional...for colorado and miami to key on.
then lord became our next qb running back....lord was tough though, he would run the ball up the middle like lp...just not as good results..I think martenez should of been used more like a run pass qb..like frazier or gill...
he would be dead running up the middle like lord.
You may want to edit this before you look like a giant fool.
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I think the snaps really got into AM's head. That would be tough as a QB not knowing where the ball was going to be snapped to every play. If the center can get him the ball in a consistent spot I think he can be dangerous for defenses.
Martinez lost a Big Ten-high five fumbles last season, and he's the only player in the FBS with four or more lost fumbles in each of the past three seasons. His 15 career fumbles lost lead all FBS players. “If he truly cares about his teammates, like I know he does,” Verduzco said, “then take care of the ball.
I don't know if people remember this (or are too young) but the class that brought in Jammal Lord included a second QB named Carl Crawford. I have always wondered how good of a QB Crawford could have been. Instead he chose to squander his football talents by becoming a MLB Allstar and signing multi-million dollar contracts. What a waste.
He would have been better, but if you saw the effect Frazier had on the 1992 Husker team you would not doubt that he made everyone around him better too. It was like adding turbochargers to a sputtering vehicle.
In the 1993 Orange Bowl against Florida State as massive underdogs and lost 27-14, I saw greatness.
4th and 2, and Tommie pivoted back outside of a doomed option play and ran back to make a 1st down. It was a relatively meaningless 1st down in a game we couldn't win, but he showed his desire and willingness to compete with the best. I truly believe he showed that night to the rest of the team that we could compete with the best and beat them.
Next year we took Charlie Ward and the same #1 'Noles team to the wire (realistically, we all know we won that game), and the '94 and '95 teams in Nebraska football history couldn't be beat.
1 guy has a year left.
The other guys stats are done.
And oh by the way, TM was never even B10 1st team much less Big 10 Player of the Year.
You do realize people remember stuff, and the internet is freely available, right?
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Taylor only played in 4 games his Sr year, so even with out those 600 passing yards and 100 rushing yards, his statistics dwarf AM's.
And you are right Taylor was only 1st team All-Big Ten, not the offensive player of the year. So in three years he won 29 games, played for two Conference Championships and was an All-Conference player. Sure you want to keep banging this drum?
If we want to talk about dudes absolutely willing us to wins, let's talk about the man, the myth, the legend of Tommy Armstrong. From the Hail Mary pass vs Northwestern, the comeback against Michigan State in 2015, and how the wheels fell completely off the wagon in 2016 when he was injured.
Yes, I will.
I think AM still has game and can lead this team to a number of victories. He is far from the detriment many seem to believe.
I'll keep a positive attitude going towards a bunch of kids that I want to win.
I hope you are right. We need a good season and I like the kid. But comparing what he has accomplished to TM is crazy.
I hope you’re right. I’m not trying to hate on the kid, just sharing my observations over the past three years. I hope he kills it and Frost puts him in a position to succeed.
Why?
The stats aren't all that different. AM can actually throw a forward pass better than TM. Obviously not as quick, but can pound for yards TM never could. He is also a much better leader than TM could ever be.
AM just needs to be the big confident kid we recruited and started as a true frosh.
You are saying these things like they are facts, but seem far from it. You say AM is a better passer, yet TM threw for more 1,600 more yards and 25 more TD's. You say AM is a better leader, yet TM led his team to more than twice as many wins and two Division Championships.
When your WR's can't get open and you have to hold on to the ball and get sacked or take off running, it will increase fumble chances.
It sounds like you’re saying AM is better than TM??
I had season tickets up in the 600 section. Great Xs and Os seats. There were so many times a wide open WR went unnoticed by AMart.
I guess the real question is do we even want AMart throwing the ball?? Last two seasons .. 14 tds & 12 interceptions.
Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Does that mean he is a better QB than Dan Marino?
AM has been a leader since the day he stepped foot on campus.
Well that solves it.
Super fan sees more than the coaching staff because he has Primo seats.
Adrian was 4th in the country last year in completion percentage at 71.5%.
Keep on with the hate. AM without the midget controlling our coaches play-calling will be a massive bonus.
It's not hate, its fact. I'm glad he upped his completion percentage last year, but he still makes so many mistakes that kill our football team. He fumbles a lot, misses a lot of WR's, makes a ton of incorrect reads and is a guy that just never has really went out an won us a game that mattered and seems to fold a little bit in crunch time. Yes he has beat up Illinois, but outside of that can you really recall a game that he played well when it mattered? He has put up some yards against Wisconsin, but has also made a ton of mistakes and a lot of those yards are when the game is basically out of reach. I want to believe in Adrian, I really do, but until he can stop making mistakes and go out and beat a good team like Iowa, Wisconsin, etc. I just don't see it.
I give him credit for getting his body right and taking the criticism of the fanbase well, but at some point you need your QB to feel like he wants it more than anyone. I don't get that vibe from him. If we are ever going to win again we need our QB to be very good and have that killer instinct.
That’s cute. Was Dilfer also statistically superior and receive more accolades?
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Ah yes.. pointing out a typo instead of answering the question. We get it dude.. you have man-crush on AMart. How many autographs did you get at fan day? Did he sign your man boobs as well?
Damn.
Our only problem with winning is our QB?
We bring in Tom Brady we'll win a Natty?
