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I am not concerned with the amount of attention, why that amount of attention is what it is, what motivates that level of attention, or whether that level of attention is appropriate.

I am concerned with right vs wrong.

No you aren't. This man died for no reason. But you brought up the

"ingrained culture of law enforcement that results in a long and sustained record of needless aggression and overreaction against minorities for rather petty stuff, the fact that this overreaction produces death way too often, the fact that officers are rarely if ever held accountable for their manslaughters, and the fact that this has never not been the case in the entire history of USA"

That paragraph says you are very much about the origin and the amount of attention.
 
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If the officer was black and Mr. Floyd was white.... this might not even get on their local news.

Where are the riots of black on white racism and murder???

People ought to have marched thru the streets for this shit. But, white people don't smash windows!!!! Should have marched against racism!!!


https://www.google.com/amp/s/baltim...atest-suspect-identified-sheldon-francis/amp/

Easy fella. White people smashing windows too in this. Maybe you need to hold up a bit.

edit: but there is a direct correlation to someone's political affiliation.
 
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No you aren't. This man died for no reason. But you brought up the

"ingrained culture of law enforcement that results in a long and sustained record of needless aggression and overreaction against minorities for rather petty stuff, the fact that this overreaction produces death way too often, the fact that officers are rarely if ever held accountable for their manslaughters, and the fact that this has never not been the case in the entire history of USA"

That paragraph says you are very much about the origin and the amount of attention.

What about my post is dependent on amount of attention? Answer: nothing

edit. Oh I get it, nobody should be paying attention to this at all. Gotcha
 
So your point is: Cops murdered this innocent man that happened to be white, so we shouldn’t be all that alarmed that they murderded a black man on some random day in some random place. Shit happens after all. How do you reconcile that with “All lives matter”? Please explain.
Why should all of society be made victims because of the bad act of ONE MAN? Do I hate all cops because of the death of my wife's uncle. No. This isn't a question of racism in my opinion. It's a question of use of force and safeguards for ALL PEOPLE.
 
What about my post is dependent on amount of attention? Answer: nothing

Your entire post is about race and the amount of unfair treatment you believe minorities face in this type of situation.

This isn't about just right and wrong, this is about who was the victim in right and wrong.

The unfortunate and totally avoidable situation has created a platform for you to voice your opinion. Again all about the amount of attention. Not truly about simply right vs wrong.
 
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This is one of the four police officers. Now I can't tell exactly what his ethnicity is, but he is certainly not white. I have been in agreement with charging all four because a man died for no reason, but we have to ask ourselves if racism was really the motivating factor. I'm afraid that an acquittal of any of the four will cause a lot of problems.

I think you are on to something.

Chauvin the killer kop was married to a woman from Laos. I don't think he was a Nazi looking to advance the Aryan race despite how many times the main-stream media or ANTIFA says that. He was a thug wearing a badge and wasn't fired because gov't employee unions prevent our society from getting rid of creeps like him. Guess who controls those unions? That's right, radicalized leftists. White supremacists likely represent less than .01 percent of our society. Where-as the radical left probably represents 5-10% of our society.
Ask yourself this, if America was really modern Nazi Germany, then why did 99.99% of the government support a coup against a legally elected POTUS who was labeled Hitler by every segment of our society? Can you imagine EVERYONE IN GOV'T remaining silent if the same thing had happened to BHO? And can you imagine the press covering it up like they have? Of course you can't.
Why would Rachel Dolezal want to be black if whites had all the privilege? Why would uber-pale Senator Warren want to be an Indian if it made her journey to planet overlord more difficult? Why would Bruce Jenner/Bradley Manning want to be a woman if Men held all the power?
Our leaders are playing the fiddle while Rome burns, exactly the same way Nero did. We've saddled our children with a debt they can never repay. Posterity will record this was the moment we entered the new Dark Ages . . . or we fought back . . . you can't keep a Republic when only 40% of the citizenry is willing to get off their fat **s to cast a vote.
 
Your entire post is about race and the amount of unfair treatment you believe minorities face in this type of situation.

This isn't about just right and wrong, this is about who was the victim in right and wrong.

The unfortunate and totally avoidable situation has created a platform for you to voice your opinion. Again all about the amount of attention. Not truly about simply right vs wrong.

Let me clarify my position a little bit. My concern isn’t just police vs minorities. It’s police general, and minorities provide the starkest example. Some guy above tried to deflect by mentioning some white guy murdered by police, but that only underscores my real concern. Police are unaccountable, and they know it because their entire world covers their back

Addendum....

I believe that the vast majority of police officers are fine and outstanding people with good morals. I also believe there are culture and training problems within many police departments, and the standards for recruitment don’t overcome that in too many instances. A culture change is required
 
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Let me clarify my position a little bit. My concern isn’t just police vs minorities. It’s police general, and minorities provide the starkest example. Some guy above tried to deflect by mentioning some white guy murdered by police, but that only underscores my real concern. Police are unaccountable, and they know it because their entire world covers their back
I feel more correctly that you would dismiss violence against people of other races since it doesn't fit a narrative of blacks and blacks alone being victimized. Police have been at times unaccountable, but often are victims themselves of media and societal abuse.
 
I feel more correctly that you would dismiss violence against people of other races since it doesn't fit a narrative of blacks and blacks alone being victimized. Police have been at times unaccountable, but often are victims themselves of media and societal abuse.

Addendum....

I believe that the vast majority of police officers are fine and outstanding people with good morals. I also believe there are culture and training problems within many police departments, and the standards for recruitment don’t overcome that in too many instances. A culture change is required
 
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Actually that is the problem. The culture change has already happened. We got rid of shame and accountability in the name of tolerance. The world you are so upset with . . . you built.

What culture change has happened within police departments. Please explain.
 
Let me clarify my position a little bit. My concern isn’t just police vs minorities. It’s police general, and minorities provide the starkest example. Some guy above tried to deflect by mentioning some white guy murdered by police, but that only underscores my real concern. Police are unaccountable, and they know it because their entire world covers their back

I get your point, I just don't know if I believe it.

I have a tendency to write things that are a little blasphemous so her goes another.....

Cities, states, etc, devote their law enforcement resources to the areas that have the most crime. If all of the crime was in rich areas of the city where all the "whites" live, then there would be more cops in those areas, and there would be more arrests in those areas. When cops came around my area of North Omaha, they didn't tell me to go away because I was white.

Based on your anger, I am assuming you are a minority. If I am wrong, mea culpa.

White America really has no voice when it comes to be "wronged". I know it sounds ridiculous, but the fact is if middle class white guy complains about something, it falls on deaf ears. Either he is just bitching to bitch or he is "racist"

I think the term white privilege is the most over used term in all the land. I think there are people, in some races, that have more difficulty reaching their full potential than people in other races, but that doesn't mean that the whites have a privilege, it means that other races have barriers, just like many white folks do. Is if fair? no but crap it is life.

If it was simply whites, why are so many Asians and Indians so successful in our country? They aren't from here, they don't have the "privilege" of being white.

A little history about me...... not that anyone really gives two shits.

I grew up in North Omaha, in the 60th and Hartman area, my dad worked a manual labor job, my mom did odd jobs from time to time but never had a career. I was one of 10 or so white kids in my elementary class of 30, I walked to school every day and was on the reduced lunch program. But I went to school everyday and got average grades. Nothing about my childhood could be perceived as privileged. Hell, based on the demographics of my neighborhood, as a kid I probably thought I was black.

I decided to go into the military out of high school because my parents couldn't afford to send me to college and I had no doubts that I would flunk out after a semester if I was paying for it myself.

When I got to basic training, I was surrounded by people just like me, from all races, ethnicities and cultures. Many kids, were either too lazy, too poor or too stupid to do anything else. So they shave your head, put you in the same clothes and make you look and feel as close to the same as humanly possible. When you are in that situation, 99% of the people there aren't looking at color, race, ethnicity or anything else. You work as a team to complete tasks, you rely on and expect that man to your left or right to do their part. They expect the same from you and the task gets done. You complete training and move on to your permanent duty station, but the reliance on your fellow soldier doesn't just go away.

Every person there was provided with the same opportunity, do your job, get paid, get money for college. Some took advantage, some didn't. Point being, I got my degree based on my working to get my degree not because I was white. I got out after 6 years and 4 tours in war zones and far too many TDYs to dangerous and shitty ass places. I worked my ass of as an adult and am now pretty successful. Very successful compared to where I came from.

Sorry for dragging this on but there is nothing about privilege that led me to where I am today. If I can do it, anyone can.


I know, I know TLDR. I hope i made the point I was trying to make.
 
What culture change has happened within police departments. Please explain.

Bull Connor . . . how many of them are still around? I bet you think Grady is the new Bull Connor. But he's not.
A young black man cries on TV screaming, "The only way white people will listen to us is if we are violent!!!"
You know why he thinks that? Because people like you never told him that MLK jr. got the attention and the ear of a planet by preaching non-violence. People heard MLK even in death. And the world got better. It didn't get perfect which is what you are asking for.
This culture change would do more to help the people you profess to bleed for . . . vvvvvvvvvv

 
I get your point, I just don't know if I believe it.

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I know, I know TLDR. I hope i made the point I was trying to make.

First, some clarifications on my background. I am white and grew up in North Platte. I always credit NP with instilling me the desire at a young age to do something with my life so I could GTFO. :). I haven't lived in Nebraska since 1992. It may be surprising to you, but my trust/faith in law enforcement, as voiced in my posts in this thread, is not significantly different than my youth in NP. It wasn’t about race back then, it was just small town cops being on power trips. And the fact I was somewhat of a delinquent back then.

The problem with police departments in general is that in general they accept whoever is willing/able to accept the job. The only real moral constraint is that they can’t be a criminal that has been caught by the time of application. But once they are in, they are in, and the entire system protects their own with immunity against all reason. The problem is compounded by the reality that the job naturally attracts those that crave authority without needing to be academic.

The parallel I draw is something I am familiar with. I was a Boy Scout leader for my son, and we all have heard about the abuses and lawsuits. The similarity is that both situations are susceptible to malicious people with bad intent wanting to apply. For Boy Scouts, it’s pedophiles. For police, it’s immoral people or outright thugs that want the cover of immunity.

Boy Scouts, from my personal experience, took the threat seriously and tried to provide safeguards through repetitive training and education, basically notifying youth and adults alike of the rules/safeguards and explicit encouragement of whistleblowers. They did what they could to pit the culture against the evil. But that wasn’t always the case. As I understand it these initiatives weren’t begun until the 80’s, and lawsuits led to bankruptcy.

Police today need a wake up call like the Boy Scouts had in the 80s. The police have failed to police themselves, and they deserve some corrections forced upon them. I know this came up as a race issue, but for me it’s a police issue that’s even bigger than race. It just gets the most ugly face and most attention when race is part of the equation. You can disagree. You can believe that this just Antifa causing problems. But you would be wrong.

Random extras...

Kudos to your military career. My daughter is currently stationed at an Army base in Korea.

Don’t get me started on white privilege. I’m dating a Boulder woman and we almost broke up over this topic within the last week. Not kidding.
 
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I am angry.

Is this where wisdom lives? Angerville?
Or is it reason?
Rationality?
Logic?

Emotion isn't the path to wisdom. Hatred isn't the path to wisdom. You preach tolerance but when have you been the example? Thousands of blacks/whites/browns/yellows/reds/greens/paisleys/striped/polkadots are going to give themselves arrest records and jail sentences and for what? You think the world will be better for their service in your religion of never-ending war? Your religion which preaches that if the past contains any injustice then forgiveness is never an option?

Your anger reaches back generations to find it's fuel . . . the Holocaust is much more recent than USA-slavery, so should all Jews in the USA go around and burn down the homes/business' of German people generations removed from Germany? Do you know that Jews are the most oppressed people in history? Why aren't they in the streets of Germany right now demanding reparations? Why don't you condemn the bigotry of Farrakhan? Why don't you condemn Cummings who became rich in office but presided over a district which got poorer while he was in office? Why don't you condemn a POTUS who increased the distance between rich and poor during his 8 years, which hurt "his" people more than any other recent POTUS?

This white guy has anger:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...0200601-fiu7q34q6fbrnehzdgjc3hu73q-story.html

In your opinion did his anger make him righteous???
 
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Is this where wisdom lives? Angerville?
Or is it reason?
Rationality?
Logic?

Emotion isn't the path to wisdom. Hatred isn't the path to wisdom. You preach tolerance but when have you been the example? Thousands of blacks/whites/browns/yellows/reds/greens/paisleys/striped/polkadots are going to give themselves arrest records and jail sentences and for what? You think the world will be better for their service in your religion of never-ending war? Your religion which preaches that if the past contains any injustice then forgiveness is never an option?

Your anger reaches back generations to find it's fuel . . . the Holocaust is much more recent than USA-slavery, so should all Jews in the USA go around and burn down the homes/business' of German people generations removed from Germany? Do you know that Jews are the most oppressed people in history? Why aren't they in the streets of Germany right now demanding reparations? Why don't you condemn the bigotry of Farrakhan? Why don't you condemn Cummings who became rich in office but presided over a district which got poorer while he was in office? Why don't you condemn a POTUS who increased the distance between rich and poor during his 8 years, which hurt "his" people more than any other recent POTUS?

This white guy has anger:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...0200601-fiu7q34q6fbrnehzdgjc3hu73q-story.html

In your opinion did his anger make him righteous???
I get what your saying but I'm not sure you want to use Jews as an example. The allies took land and gave it to the Jews for their own country. Were kind of trying to do the opposite here. Were trying to get to the point where we have an inclusive society not creating a separate country because we can't guarantee someone's safety.

Jews probably aren't going to riot because their are people in Germany who still want to exterminate them. Israel also took care of a lot problems that countries refused to do. I'm guessing you aren't advocating for black people to be able to go around America and kill kkk members? Because that's essentially what Israel has done when they feel things weren't taken care of.

Looting obviously isn't the answer but I think anyone that doesnt acknowledge the hardships that prejudice and racism causes is purposely turning a blind eye.
 
Why do you need to identify his race? Why do you need to check and see if they are white or not? I am directly asking you OP.

Why does ethnicity and skin color matter to you? Why can't any life, no matter race nor color of skin, simply be worrisome? Why do you feel the need to "check the boxes"??

Why can't ALL LIVES MATTER
AGAIN FOR THE Nth time...the (Black Lives Matter) mantra/movement, does not insensitively suggest that ONLY Black Lives Matter, it stands for...BLACK LIVES MATTER...ALSO!!!...ALSO!!!...ALSO!!!...But then again you guys (most non-Blacks), already know that, you just disrespectfully PRETEND not to know, (just like when Black athletes kneel during the Anthem, you PRETEND to think and make sure to make it known that you KNOW that they are purposely disrespecting (the flag, our hundreds of thousands of former/current/future military personnel and their sacrifice, they are spitting on America, they HATE all Police, hate Apple Pie, hate church, hate Jesus, hate God, abhor special needs kids etc.) When you guys full-well know they were kneeling to protest the exact thing that happened to George Floyd)...it is stunningly and utterly preposterously-disrespectful, to think and say with a straight friggin face, that Black people would be callous, dumb, ignorant, vain and self-defeatist enough to try and garner assistance, brotherhood, understanding and support from non-Black people with our plight's/struggles, by alienating ourselves with a slogan suggesting that ONLY their (Black) lives matter. What level of friggin ignorance and moronity would one have to embody to do something that blatantly stupid???
Then again that's one of your/some (White dudes) favorite tropes/feigning of ignorance....like this best/most infamous...at least to us black people...BS question/statement.

Many (by no means ALL), White guys feign ignorance by asking: "Why can't we call Black people (******), they call each other that all the time, listen to any/every Rap song, you hear (******) ad nauseum."

Ummmm, OK Mr. sarcastic White Dude...soooooo in your world, a white guy saying to another white guy...

"Dude, why do you go to lunch every day with that dirty ******?"

So that very verbiage connotes and is meant to be viewed in the exact same context as a Black dude, saying to another Black dude:

"What's up NIGGA, you down for lunch?"

Ummmmm OK...ROTFLMFAOFFFFF...Those narratives are soooo weak and tired, no one in the Black community is fooled by your fake attempt at naivete.
 
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First, some clarifications on my background. I am white and grew up in North Platte. I always credit NP with instilling me the desire at a young age to do something with my life so I could GTFO. :). I haven't lived in Nebraska since 1992. It may be surprising to you, but my trust/faith in law enforcement, as voiced in my posts in this thread, is not significantly different than my youth in NP. It wasn’t about race back then, it was just small town cops being on power trips. And the fact I was somewhat of a delinquent back then.

The problem with police departments in general is that in general they accept whoever is willing/able to accept the job. The only real moral constraint is that they can’t be a criminal that has been caught by the time of application. But once they are in, they are in, and the entire system protects their own with immunity against all reason. The problem is compounded by the reality that the job naturally attracts those that crave authority without needing to be academic.

The parallel I draw is something I am familiar with. I was a Boy Scout leader for my son, and we all have heard about the abuses and lawsuits. The similarity is that both situations are susceptible to malicious people with bad intent wanting to apply. For Boy Scouts, it’s pedophiles. For police, it’s immoral people or outright thugs that want the cover of immunity.

Boy Scouts, from my personal experience, took the threat seriously and tried to provide safeguards through repetitive training and education, basically notifying youth and adults alike of the rules/safeguards and explicit encouragement of whistleblowers. They did what they could to pit the culture against the evil. But that wasn’t always the case. As I understand it these initiatives weren’t begun until the 80’s, and lawsuits led to bankruptcy.

Police today need a wake up call like the Boy Scouts had in the 80s. The police have failed to police themselves, and they deserve some corrections forced upon them. I know this came up as a race issue, but for me it’s a police issue that’s even bigger than race. It just gets the most ugly face and most attention when race is part of the equation. You can disagree. You can believe that this just Antifa causing problems. But you would be wrong.

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Kudos to your military career. My daughter is currently stationed at an Army base in Korea.

Don’t get me started on white privilege. I’m dating a Boulder woman and we almost broke up over this topic within the last week. Not kidding.

I have a lot of experience with law enforcement through my profession, and I completely agree with the concern about the quality of the individuals. There are a lot of decent people who are cops, also way too many idiots; that’s a fact. I would never want to be a cop because it is a tough job, especially more and more these days. Now, my experience has been with mostly white and Hispanic communities. I noticed that the cops, the suspect ones, were equal opportunity assholes. They said things they shouldn’t have, they did things they shouldn’t have (violating constitutional rights). I know that there are some cops that are racist, but let’s not confuse an asshole with a racist, they aren’t necessarily the same.
 
What culture change has happened within police departments. Please explain.
The Chief of Police in Minneapolis is black. Please explain what happened in his department. The attorney general in Minnesota is black. Please explain why he hasn't fixed the problem of unfairness in their legal system.
 
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Meanwhile CNN is running with quotes from Obama about police brutality and praising his time as a community organizer trying to effect change. Well Obama associated during his time as an "organizer" with known domestic terrorists who killed cops. If fact he welcomed his buddy to the White House who planted a bomb that killed a cop.

Video released today also shows that the bricks and stones weren't accidents. These riots were planned organized crime events (domestic terrorism) with the goal of creating chaos to change our government whether wholesale or just the presidency.

Cops are 18 times MORE likely to be killed by a black man while on duty than a black man is to be killed by a cop. I repeat. Cops are 18 times more likely to be killed on duty by a black man than a black man is to be killed by a cop. And people wonder why cops react the way they do at times. On top of that while only a fair small percentage of the population is black, they commit a majority of violent crime in America. Again, my nephew is a black cop. Others in my family are black. There is a MUCH BIGGER problem within the black community than police injustice.
 
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AGAIN FOR THE Nth time...the (Black Lives Matter) mantra/movement, does not insensitively suggest that ONLY Black Lives Matter, it stands for...BLACK LIVES MATTER...ALSO!!!...ALSO!!!...ALSO!!!...But then again you guys (most non-Blacks), already know that, you just disrespectfully PRETEND not to know, (just like when Black athletes kneel during the Anthem, you PRETEND to think and make sure to make it known that you KNOW that they are purposely disrespecting (the flag, our hundreds of thousands of former/current/future military personnel and their sacrifice, they are spitting on America, they HATE all Police, hate Apple Pie, hate church, hate Jesus, hate God, abhor special needs kids etc.) When you guys full-well know they were kneeling to protest the exact thing that happened to George Floyd)...it is stunningly and utterly preposterously-disrespectful, to think and say with a straight friggin face, that Black people would be callous, dumb, ignorant, vain and self-defeatist enough to try and garner assistance, brotherhood, understanding and support from non-Black people with our plight's/struggles, by alienating ourselves with a slogan suggesting that ONLY their (Black) lives matter. What level of friggin ignorance and moronity would one have to embody to do something that blatantly stupid???
Then again that's one of your/some (White dudes) favorite tropes/feigning of ignorance....like this best/most infamous...at least to us black people...BS question/statement.

Many (by no means ALL), White guys feign ignorance by asking: "Why can't we call Black people (******), they call each other that all the time, listen to any/every Rap song, you hear (******) ad nauseum."

Ummmm, OK Mr. sarcastic White Dude...soooooo in your world, a white guy saying to another white guy...

"Dude, why do you go to lunch every day with that dirty ******?"

So that very verbiage connotes and is meant to be viewed in the exact same context as a Black dude, saying to another Black dude:

"What's up NIGGA, you down for lunch?"

Ummmmm OK...ROTFLMFAOFFFFF...Those narratives are soooo weak and tired, no one in the Black community is fooled by your fake attempt at naivete.
TLDR; I read a little bit, but then I stopped when I noticed that you are pretty racist and ignorant. You sounded like one of the violent rioters.
 
TLDR; I read a little bit, but then I stopped when I noticed that you are pretty racist and ignorant. You sounded like one of the violent rioters.
Again...ROTFLMFAOFFFF, your ridiculously-child like response alone conveys
A- You're butt-hurt cause I called out your Bullcrap, fake-pretending to think that Black people are saying "ONLY" Black Lives Matter when you know full well we're saying the opposite.

B- Instead of having an adult-sized set of balls, an admit that I called out your ignorant crap, you resort to cherub-like behavior and say that my response is racist...again ROTFLMFAOFFFF. Cause if you meant racist as in me calling out phony-arse White dudes like you PRETENDING to not know the difference in all the scenarios I mentioned...then I am Guilty as Charged...

C- You're from friggin...NEH...BRASS...KKK!...nuff' said.

D- Because of "C"...you're not well-edjumicated enough for me to want to entertain a viable, thought-provocating, well-meaning, nuanced debate with.

And D...I'm a lifelong MIAMI HURRICANES FAN...and we OWN YOUR REDNEKKY ARCE'S....ROTFLMFAOFFFF
 
Again...ROTFLMFAOFFFF, your ridiculously-child like response alone conveys
A- You're butt-hurt cause I called out your Bullcrap, fake-pretending to think that Black people are saying "ONLY" Black Lives Matter when you know full well we're saying the opposite.

B- Instead of having an adult-sized set of balls, an admit that I called out your ignorant crap, you resort to cherub-like behavior and say that my response is racist...again ROTFLMFAOFFFF. Cause if you meant racist as in me calling out phony-arse White dudes like you PRETENDING to not know the difference in all the scenarios I mentioned...then I am Guilty as Charged...

C- You're from friggin...NEH...BRASS...KKK!...nuff' said.

D- Because of "C"...you're not well-edjumicated enough for me to want to entertain a viable, thought-provocating, well-meaning, nuanced debate with.

And D...I'm a lifelong MIAMI HURRICANES FAN...and we OWN YOUR REDNEKKY ARCE'S....ROTFLMFAOFFFF
Didn't read past the first sentence to know that you are a full fledged racist and violent nazi.

You should really put down the coke.
 
The Chief of Police in Minneapolis is black. Please explain what happened in his department. The attorney general in Minnesota is black. Please explain why he has fixed the problem of unfairness in their legal system.

What happened in his department? His officers killed a man in broad daylight with onlookers pleading him to stop before it was too late. No problem has been fixed.

There is a systemic problem with law enforcement, and just putting a non-white in charge is not a solution.
 
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Why do you need to identify his race? Why do you need to check and see if they are white or not? I am directly asking you OP.

Why does ethnicity and skin color matter to you? Why can't any life, no matter race nor color of skin, simply be worrisome? Why do you feel the need to "check the boxes"??

Why can't ALL LIVES MATTER
Get you’re out of your ass, of course it matters. All we’ve heard is peckerwood this, cracker that, when two of the cops were minorities. I guess this keeps the argument from being streamlined enough to keep the agenda pure. Kind of like the innocent black jogger narrative. Yes, he was executed in cold blood but he was not a jogger. No he didn’t deserve to be killed, but joggers don’t wear cargo shorts, and no socks. It makes it sound like two white men just ran him down and killed him for jogging while black. Yes, two toothless
Georgia crackers murdered him in cold blood, but there was a history there, and they knew who they were looking for.

The media is as culpable as the racists hillbillies when it comes to perpetuating the hate.
 
"The media is as culpable as the racists hillbillies when it comes to perpetuating the hate."

Truth. Angela Stanton King, paraphrasing, said that she thinks America can get past racism, if the media will let it.
 
So give me a proposal on how it gets fixed

It’s a tough problem. I would start here:

1) If you're on the clock, you're on camera: mandatory body cams for every cop

2) Cops are accountable to our communities: mandatory civilian reviews of all police brutality reports

3) Cops can be better, so let's train them to be: mandatory training in non-violent and non-lethal policing
 
RE: "Why can't ALL lives matter?"

It's like having a busted pipe flooding your basement and I'm the plumber, I go start replacing all the pipes in your upstairs shower while your basement is still flooding.

Bet you wanna know WTF I'm doing that for right? You want to hear me tell you that ALL your pipes are important right then? Tell you about how I was at this other guy's house and oh boy you should have seen the lime scale in his shower tap, water pressure is important you know?

Yeah, that's a fact, all your pipes are important, but do you feel like I should probably start by clamping off the one that's leaking and replacing that one?

We all know about cold and pipes freezing, right? Which pipes do you have to worry about? The ones on outside walls and unheated spaced right? They're all pipes, but some of them exist in different circumstances don't they?

People are trying to tell you they live their life on an outside wall or an unheated space. You're sitting in a centrally-located bathroom on a -20 night like, "How dare you. My uncle was a shower pipe and he deserves a plumber just as much as you do!"
 
It’s a tough problem. I would start here:

1) If you're on the clock, you're on camera: mandatory body cams for every cop

2) Cops are accountable to our communities: mandatory civilian reviews of all police brutality reports

3) Cops can be better, so let's train them to be: mandatory training in non-violent and non-lethal policing

Joe Rogan was talking about all cops having to at least get a purple belt in Jui Jitsu in order to know how to properly maintain body control as well as understand how different chokes and things affect the body. Thought it was a pretty cool idea and could help in my eyes.
 
So give me a proposal on how it gets fixed
All I hear is crickets. EVERYBODY can protest and complain but actually inacting a solution is much much tougher to do. Individual humans are going to do what they do like killing a man who should have been arrested but didn't deserve what he got. You can't condemn all cops based on what a few did any more than you should condemn all blacks for the looting. The system in Minnesota failed. That cop should have been off of the force long ago. Is it a police union problem? Is it because it's damned tough to hire law enforcement? Clearly given that guy's past record, he had NO business still being employed by the city. Klobuchar is complicit in this killing. She refused to charge him for past crimes when she could have.
 
What happened in his department? His officers killed a man in broad daylight with onlookers pleading him to stop before it was too late. No problem has been fixed.

There is a systemic problem with law enforcement, and just putting a non-white in charge is not a solution.
The problem in law enforcement is that officers are human beings. What do you want? Robocops?
 
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Here is a big problem as I see it. Lets say you put 100,000 cops into a football stadium, and you tell the person with you that most of those cops are really good people, but 100 of them are racist and need to be fired. They don't have a large green vest on indicating they are racist. That has to be done by each individual police force. And often you don't know it until its too late. The Minneapolis case is an exception as that officer had 17 official complaints against him, yet every democrat in that chain all the way up to the governor's office did nothing. You can repeat that story in about every large city in America as well.
 
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