If you thought S&C were out of sorts...
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If you ride a bike and own a Prius?
Starting to think the fanbase is the next hurdle for Frost. Honestly, a bunch of morons. Ban me, again.
You people don't get it.
Thank God I saw the way it should be.
I find this post somewhat ironic in that many of the posters who are all upset about beating the MR dead horse after 6 months were the ones that beat the Bo dead horse for three years.
Why do you still love Bo so much? You can just tell that part of the reason so many of you want to keep beating on Riley is that you are just so damn butthurt about how things went down with Bo.
I don't love Bo. I was on board with his firing prior to his last year. But I absolutely hated the next hire which then told me maybe we didn't have it so bad under Bo. You seem to be in that group that believes if you hated Riley you automatically loved Bo. Absolutely not the case.
What I hate is the three years......and now another 5 months of Riley apologists trying to save face on the MR hire by blaming Bo for everything. That dog don't hunt and the facts are there to support it. And yet we still hear them whining about how he was handed a raw deal. We have posters acting like SF should be held accountable to the same 9-10 game win standard as MR was held to in his first year.
Somehow they think being handed a 4-8 team with a whole lot of culture issues and playing the #1 ranked schedule is easier than being handed over a team that was used to winning 9+ games a year with an easy schedule.
I love how the Bo-bots keep bringing up these fictional Riley apologists.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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So much truth. Stockholm Syndrome. The guy didn't even want to be here, and the coalition of butthurt continues for him.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Yep. Every time an apologists tells us how great MR left if for Scott Frost compared to what he got from Bo we just suddenly appear. There are people here that act like MR was hired for a 3 year plan to get Scott in perfect position. He was our white knight savior to help SF get us to the next level. They dismiss the facts that MR was fired for what amounts to the worst train wreck of modern day history for our football program.
But heck.....give the credit to MR for leaving the program in such a valuable place. How can SF not win a National Championship based on the quality of that 4-8 team.
for the love of god - no one light a match or we are likely to have an inferno on our hands with all the straw lying around
No kidding...remember all the crap about how Corvallis didn't have a weight room and stuff...and once Riley got here he would kill it? Good lord
I wasn’t one of those people, but grant that some did complain about the toxic culture Bo left behind as long as 3 years later—was it more warranted in the one case to beat the dead horse than the other? In my eyes, yes. Bo tried to sabotage the program on his way out. That is deserving of criticism and even resentment.
Mike Riley wasn’t good enough, was a bad hire. But we have no reason to believe he didn’t give it his best shot and he sure as hell exited with class. But for some his being a bad hire is not good enough. They have to go looking for the weakest and most trivial things to manufacture offense and express their resentment toward a man who did them no wrong except not being good enough (the Prius, the bike, the condo, the license plates, his salary at OSU). I hope you can see that from the perspective of some—let’s call them mature adults—this is all very petty and entirely unnecessary.
The other point is: to be grateful for what we have now—and we should be very grateful—we don’t have to keep comparing it to the worst.
Maybe..but if you were/are "hurt" or "upset" because of Bo being "mean" that is really a "you" problem.
I mean, I love(d) LP and he killed people.
In my opinion, those two things are the same problem and they just manifested themselves in different ways. That problem was that neither of those guys truly embraced Nebraska. It was just a job/paycheck to them.
I wasn’t upset with Bo because he was “mean.” I was upset with him because, among other reasons, on his way out he did everything he could to sow discord among the players and pit them against the administration and incoming staff when he called the AD a “p*ussy” and a “f*cking lawyer” who didnt have their interests in mind. Need we listen to the tape again? How did Riley exit by comparison?
Maybe. I get what you’re saying, and there is certainly evidence to that effect in both instances . But I also think Nebraska fans in general have unrealistic expectations for what one must do to truly ‘embrace’ Nebraska. A big part of that, it seems to me, is simply winning enough so you won’t be harassed constantly (e.g., T.O.). That’s a pretty high standard given our standard for the football team.
Guys guys guys, we can't sort any of this out until we know what Bo's standing broad jump distance is as compared to the last 4 Husker HCs.
It didn't do anything. It never does. The AD was a pussy and was fired for being horrible.
Just like leaving all nice and sweet doesn't do anything.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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We need a Huskers Online "lifter of the year" award. I know which stud I would nominate. And if he doesn't win, it's simply Mike Riley's fault
Wouldn't it end in a tie? Every poster here can squat 650, bench 400 and run a 4.2...
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Only the ones that coach 4th graders. They are the ones with info about "the team didn't squat the last few years" even though many players have shot that stupid nonsense down. No idea why the current staff feels the need to make up stuff for the dolts in the fanbase to keep parroting
Pffft i can squat 651 bench 401 and run a 4.19 pffffffffffft
This is a hell of alot of analysis off some comments from B.E. when he does not have control over S&C with Frost (and didn't under Riley). My gut says.....the S&C changes being made are the right ones. But ultimately - we'll know by what we see on the field.
GBR!
GBR!
Are you talking bout Dave?!?!?!
On the second part...I would rip the old staff too. It cracks me up.
So your view is that the words and actions of coaches don’t affect the attitudes of their players? Okay...
Yes...for instance...When a RB is about to take the ball on a handoff he isn't thinking "Man, my ex-coach said the AD is a pussy...I don't think I am going to hold on to the ball...that will show that AD"
Can you think of a single instance where what a coach says or does would influence an athlete’s attitude? That is all I need to be right and for you to be wrong.
That and being whipped behind a woodshed in some of the biggest games Wisconsin three times Ohio St once UCLA at home etc..
Yes...but there was a new coach and the old coach was gone. So in your brainwashing theory the new coach would now be in charge of the players brains.
Right? Or are you saying that the very first coach a player ever has is the one that has them brainwashed, forever?
Are you really saying Bo didn't give his very best? So what if he warned the players of what was ahead of them. He was right. Now does that mean we should appreciate him? No.....and I don't. But these comparisons continue to rear their heads whenever someone tries to defend Riley's actions. Of course Riley's actions are going to come up as he is the latest and most infamous coach to have put us in this chit show. Asking everyone to move on at this point and forgive him while still acting like Bo tried to sabotage our program is a one sided view.
I don't think taking a $400,000 job for $50,000 just to stick it to Nebraska is leaving with class.
Whether it did anything or not is debatable.
If you are saying fans shouldn’t be upset with Bo because it didn’t work, I guess I disagree. He attempted to torpedo the football program.
People are upset with Riley as well, because he did, in a sense, torpedo the program. I get that. Bo’s was malicious, while Riley’s was incompetence. We could debate which one is worse, but my sense is the debate won’t last too long, as Frost will have us turned around pretty quick, in my opinion.
I understand better that fans are upset with eichorst. He made the Riley hire.
If people want to harp on Riley, so be it. I get it. But then why is Bo off limits?
Challenged his Running Backs to "push-up Contests" and smoked them in his forties and fifties... Frank Solich
I think we should make fun of both of them! I have said that over and over.
I also can't imagine being "upset" about what either of them did. I mean, it doesn't really impact me, what they do or say, for me to be upset. You know?
Like, if a dog bites me, I would be upset. But if a dog down the street bites someone I don't know, I don't really care.
You have been consistent with this, so credit to you.
We just need to get this era behind us and instead of debating what was worse, appreciate what Frost will do. I’m afraid it won’t happen until his first conference championship game appearance... hope it comes soon.
He did not try to torpedo the football program. This story line has been exaggerated so much. What he did was have a goodby meeting with his players and gave them a heads up to the chit show they were about to experience. This is much more accurate than saying he was torpedoing the program. Geesh if an employee at most companies did this they'd get a reward for being a whistle blower. (that was sarcasm by the way)
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