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I guess if you don't want to be painted by a broad stroke brush maybe reign in your colleagues a little bit when they get caught doing terrible shitty stuff to students and it gets plastered all over media outlets as well as social media. You know, PROOF.
And maybe when there's proof don't act smug and uppity about it as if your people can do no wrong.

Oh who am I kidding, is so pervasive from the Gov on down its normal in insane world.
I feel the same way. Cops and the military should definitely clean things up. You were talking about cops and the military, right? And don't even get me started on priests and other people of faith. Read about a couple bad ones and now I definitely think all organized religion is bad. Now I'm super judgy about everyone and make crazy assumptions.
 
I feel the same way. Cops and the military should definitely clean things up. You were talking about cops and the military, right? And don't even get me started on priests and other people of faith. Read about a couple bad ones and now I definitely think all organized religion is bad. Now I'm super judgy about everyone and make crazy assumptions.
No, I wasn't specifically talking about them because that's not what this thread is about. I'm sure you could start one though.
Its okay, I understand how whataboutisms work and how people like you use them to not take any responsibility whatsoever for your actions. Its part of the reason why this country is such a shit hole now.
I'm sure you're just enjoying yourself wallowing around in it.
 
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No, I wasn't specifically talking about them because that's not what this thread is about. I'm sure you could start one though.
Its okay, I understand how whataboutisms work and how people like you use them to not take any responsibility whatsoever for your actions. Its part of the reason why this country is such a shit hole now.
I'm sure you're just enjoying yourself wallowing around in it.
What actions are you talking about with 123456?
 
Damn right I'm enjoying myself. My little public school kids just got done reading to me before they go to bed. Enjoyed every second of it. Personal responsibility? Lol. I think you meant to say that you want to concern yourself with other people's business.
 
What actions are you talking about with 123456?
He's upset because I refuse to go along with the narrative that teachers all across America are brainwashing kids. If you don't homeschool your kids and shelter them from the world then you are a "groomer". It's the new buzzword for these people. Kind of like "woke". Gets them all amped up.
 
I just got an email yesterday from Lincoln public schools, which told me the god awful news that Standing Bear High School will not be taking juniors and seniors.

This means that my daughter would still have to go all the way to southwest. That is just way too far from my home, standing Bear is basically my backyard.

Anyway, due to this development, I will be homeschooling my daughter instead. Any suggestions for the best way to home school? I'm not trying to do the church thing or any of that.
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Last day of school today!!!! 😍😍😍

Finally we can start doing what we want as a family. School is an inconvenience.
 
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In a typical high school of 500 graduating seniors, what percent want to be doctors or dentists? Of that percent, how many actually make the grade and become real doctors and dentists? Not a high percentage. For the vast majority of the student body, that other stuff will play no part in their lives.

I can't speak of your daughter's experience in California, but the state has become a total shit hole. You can live in areas like Pasadena, Sherman Oaks and have a reasonable life, BUT the state politics soon devour daily life. My son LOVED California for about 15 years, yet, the last 5-8 years it has become intolerable in so many ways, taxes among them.

He lives there part time and the other time in Houston. Same thing in Houston, another shit hole. So, because he is able, he is now going to make his home, at least part-time in Boise. He works remote, and my wife and I would just as soon he and his boys return home and back to some midwestern values.

Would love to see your daughter return to her roots and a resemblance of normalcy.

The medical industry has become a money piraha. The new Doctor's hippocratic oath has become,
"First, do no harm, to your bank account."
There are some Drs like that. Especially in urban areas. My wife was never one of those. She’s done way too many free phone consults and “insurance only” office exams for people with either crappy or no insurance.

MOST of the Drs I know are older and view their’s as a service profession. Some of the newest generation aren’t as altruistic.
 
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There are some Drs like that. Especially in urban areas. My wife was never one of those. She’s done way too many free phone consults and “insurance only” office exams for people with either crappy or no insurance.

MOST of the Drs I know are older and view their’s as a service profession. Some of the newest generation aren’t as altruistic.
I always tell my 40ish year old primary Doctor, whom I like, there's a 90% chance the pill he prescribes won't work for me, but a 100% chance the insurance check will work for him.
 
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If socially awkward means not like the rest of society, that's a big selling point.
Had about 20 homeschool kids over this weekend for a graduation party. The stereotypes are false. Most of these kids are smart and engaged. They have a good idea what they want out of life, They can conduct themselves in conversation like young adults should be able to.

They are far from perfect and grapple with the same insecurities as most teens, but overall I am very impressed with their development.
 
I'm confused about people talking about inflated grades. In highschool (I was homeschooled in NC and NE) I had to take the states end of grade test and mail it in to be graded. I also took the SAT and ACT which was not taken or graded at home.
 
I'm confused about people talking about inflated grades. In highschool (I was homeschooled in NC and NE) I had to take the states end of grade test and mail it in to be graded. I also took the SAT and ACT which was not taken or graded at home.
For one, there is no “end of grade“ test in Nebraska. Second, if there was such a thing, the fact that you took a standardized test at home comprised the test.
 
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I'm confused about people talking about inflated grades. In highschool (I was homeschooled in NC and NE) I had to take the states end of grade test and mail it in to be graded. I also took the SAT and ACT which was not taken or graded at home.
Just like a teacher in a school setting might bump up a grade for a kid that they like, I don't think it is hard to imagine Mom-teacher do the same for her kid at home. Not like it is some evil act, just it happens.

I have personally never met a home schooled kid that did not have "all A's".
 
Had about 20 homeschool kids over this weekend for a graduation party. The stereotypes are false. Most of these kids are smart and engaged. They have a good idea what they want out of life, They can conduct themselves in conversation like young adults should be able to.

They are far from perfect and grapple with the same insecurities as most teens, but overall I am very impressed with their development.
Dude...you only have the control group over! Hahaha

That experiment was faulty!

I kid, I kid.
 
Its so strange we can shelter our kids by home schooling them (which I'm a big proponent) but we send them on to a university and they become as liberal and left-thinking because of all the communist professors. There's only a a few colleges I would recommend and NU isn't one of them.
 
Maybe there Is for home schooled kids? I don't know.

There is no “end of grade” standardized test requirement in NE. A person applies to the DOE and if approved for the exemption, nothing more is needed / required. The state used to ask detailed questions about hours of instruction and curriculum for the core courses an electives, but they stopped doing that a number of years ago.
 
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Its so strange we can shelter our kids by home schooling them (which I'm a big proponent) but we send them on to a university and they become as liberal and left-thinking because of all the communist professors. There's only a a few colleges I would recommend and NU isn't one of them.
What classes did you specifically have communist teachers at UNL? Your experience must have been much different then mine.
 
For one, there is no “end of grade“ test in Nebraska. Second, if there was such a thing, the fact that you took a standardized test at home comprised the test.
If you read the last sentence of my post you'll see that I did NOT take those tests at home. I took them in public and they were graded by the state. Those SAT and ACT scores are what I gave to colleges when applying.

In my day to day schooling (not those end of year tests) I was A's in everything except for math. That's one of the awesome things about homeschooling! If I didnt fully grasp or understand something enough to get an A, instead of just moving on like in public school, I would circle back and study what I needed to study until I could get an A. And when I grasped something quickly, I moved ahead quickly. Shouldn't that be how school works? In public school that cant happen. If you grasp something quickly you have to wait for the class and if you struggle, you get a failing grade and they move forward anyways. I was SUPER ahead and taking some specific college courses during my junior and senior years of highschool because of this.

We homeschool my 8 year old son now in Wilmington, NC. He is more active and sociable than I was and way more active and sociable than any public schooler I've ever known.
Hes a part of many homeschool groups. Hes constantly out on field trips with these groups.
Hes in sports, he does classes with other homeschoolers once a week at a local music store.

I wouldnt change it! 🙂
 
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If you read the last sentence of my post you'll see that I did NOT take those tests at home. I took them in public and they were graded by the state. Those SAT and ACT scores are what I gave to colleges when applying.

In my day to day schooling (not those end of year tests) I was A's in everything except for math. That's one of the awesome things about homeschooling! If I didnt fully grasp or understand something enough to get an A, instead of just moving on like in public school, I would circle back and study what I needed to study until I could get an A. And when I grasped something quickly, I moved ahead quickly. Shouldn't that be how school works? In public school that cant happen. If you grasp something quickly you have to wait for the class and if you struggle, you get a failing grade and they move forward anyways. I was SUPER ahead and taking some specific college courses during my junior and senior years of highschool because of this.

We homeschool my 8 year old son now in Wilmington, NC. He is more active and sociable than I was and way more active and sociable than any public schooler I've ever known.
Hes a part of many homeschool groups. Hes constantly out on field trips with these groups.
Hes in sports, he does classes with other homeschoolers once a week at a local music store.

I wouldnt change it! 🙂
I hate to break the news to you but this sounds like "school",
You have just created a situation where your kid and those other kids are in "school" with like-minded kids and families.

He takes classes with other kids, he goes on field trips with other kids, he does band with other kids...yep...he goes to school!

The only difference is his teacher is also his parent.
 
There is no “end of grade” standardized test requirement in NE. A person applies to the DOE and if approved for the exemption, nothing more is needed / required. The state used to ask detailed questions about hours of instruction and curriculum for the core courses an electives, but they stopped doing that a number of years ago.
Got it! I remember the hours of instruction part! Thanks!
 
I hate to break the news to you but this sounds like "school",
You have just created a situation where your kid and those other kids are in "school" with like-minded kids and families.

He takes classes with other kids, he goes on field trips with other kids, he does band with other kids...yep...he goes to school!

The only difference is his teacher is also his parent.
I understand how you got to that conclusion from the information I've given you. I am not in the mood to write a long post about what his entire schedule looks like but I'll give you a brief overview for this week:

Daily: math and most common subjects at home

Monday: went to a farm with a group of homeschoolers. Learned about some intricacies of how the farm works from taking care of the animals as well as the crops. He also got to ride a horse 😅.

Tuesday: group of homeschoolers met at a house and had a cooking class. Hands on.
Hes now with the "Wild and Free" group out on a nature walk at a state park
He has soccer practice tonight

Wednesday: only school from home

Thursday: only school from home

Friday: (with homeschool group) going on an eco explore boar tour and then to an island to learn about venus fly traps and other plants and animals in that area.

This is nothing like public school. My experience from when inwas in public school in my middle school and prior years as well as when I tutored in schools was that kids didnt have much interaction. They needed to be quiet, walk in line, sit still at their desks etc... I'm not saying all schools are like this. But I can confidently say that my son has more interactions and conversations with kids than any public schooler I know. And he is way smarter than most kids his age (according to state testing... not my own tests and grades).

It's not for everybody and it can be done many different ways. What we are doing is working for us
 
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I understand how you got to that conclusion from the information I've given you. I am not in the mood to write a long post about what his entire schedule looks like but I'll give you a brief overview for this week:

Daily: math and most common subjects at home

Monday: went to a farm with a group of homeschoolers. Learned about some intricacies of how the farm works from taking care of the animals as well as the crops. He also got to ride a horse 😅.

Tuesday: group of homeschoolers met at a house and had a cooking class. Hands on.
Hes now with the "Wild and Free" group out on a nature walk at a state park
He has soccer practice tonight

Wednesday: only school from home

Thursday: only school from home

Friday: (with homeschool group) going on an eco explore boar tour and then to an island to learn about venus fly traps and other plants and animals in that area.

This is nothing like public school. My experience from when inwas in public school in my middle school and prior years as well as when I tutored in schools was that kids didnt have much interaction. They needed to be quiet, walk in line, sit still at their desks etc... I'm not saying all schools are like this. But I can confidently say that my son has more interactions and conversations with kids than any public schooler I know. And he is way smarter than most kids his age (according to state testing... not my own tests and grades).

It's not for everybody and it can be done many different ways. What we are doing is working for us
Yeah, it is montossori public school. It is okay, it is not a bad thing!

I LOVE how there were posters (not you) bashing on public school for the things they teach that are pointless...and here we have a classic example of things that, in the "real world" are pointless. I don't think they are pointless by the way, I think learning is learning.

Cooking class, nature walk, Venus fly trap trivia...pretty much all "pointless" to the anti-public school crowd. Again, I for one disagree and think those are great chance to learn.

But yeah, your kid attends home-public school. You should be thrilled about that, you created or helped create that for him but what you described is what little kids do in school. I am guessing your kid is little still.

Honestly, some of the things your kid does for school sounds like what the UNC basketball players do :)
 
Yeah, it is montossori public school. It is okay, it is not a bad thing!

I LOVE how there were posters (not you) bashing on public school for the things they teach that are pointless...and here we have a classic example of things that, in the "real world" are pointless. I don't think they are pointless by the way, I think learning is learning.

Cooking class, nature walk, Venus fly trap trivia...pretty much all "pointless" to the anti-public school crowd. Again, I for one disagree and think those are great chance to learn.

But yeah, your kid attends home-public school. You should be thrilled about that, you created or helped create that for him but what you described is what little kids do in school. I am guessing your kid is little still.

Honestly, some of the things your kid does for school sounds like what the UNC basketball players do :)
I suppose you're right. I agree that those are certainly not essential things to learn but I consider these "extra" things he gets to do on top of the "important learning" he does at home. And it's where he gets his socialization.

And yes, hes 8 😊

I wouldnt bash public school. Just like homeschooling, theres so many schools and teachers and they all do things a little differently. It's great for some kids and others it's not. Find what's best for your child and their development to prepare then to be successful in the real world (and be a good person!) And do that!

Thanks for the respectful conversation
 
I suppose you're right. I agree that those are certainly not essential things to learn but I consider these "extra" things he gets to do on top of the "important learning" he does at home. And it's where he gets his socialization.

And yes, hes 8 😊

I wouldnt bash public school. Just like homeschooling, theres so many schools and teachers and they all do things a little differently. It's great for some kids and others it's not. Find what's best for your child and their development to prepare then to be successful in the real world (and be a good person!) And do that!

Thanks for the respectful conversation
By the way, I LOVE Venus fly traps. When I was a kid my mom would drag me to the florist so she could get flowers and they had Venus Fly Traps...I could not get enough of touching them and making them close...then I got yelled at because I guess that can kill them...

But it was still awesome!
 
What classes did you specifically have communist teachers at UNL? Your experience must have been much different then mine.
Back in the day John Gruhl taught political science. I’m not sure if he was a true communist but he damned sure was at least a socialist. He certainly didn’t criticize authoritarian China or the USSR.
 
Just like a teacher in a school setting might bump up a grade for a kid that they like, I don't think it is hard to imagine Mom-teacher do the same for her kid at home. Not like it is some evil act, just it happens.

I have personally never met a home schooled kid that did not have "all A's".
You mean to say that kids in school who don’t act like pricks and bitch and make teachers lives miserable get better grades? Weird 😉
 
In a typical high school of 500 graduating seniors, what percent want to be doctors or dentists? Of that percent, how many actually make the grade and become real doctors and dentists? Not a high percentage. For the vast majority of the student body, that other stuff will play no part in their lives.

I can't speak of your daughter's experience in California, but the state has become a total shit hole. You can live in areas like Pasadena, Sherman Oaks and have a reasonable life, BUT the state politics soon devour daily life. My son LOVED California for about 15 years, yet, the last 5-8 years it has become intolerable in so many ways, taxes among them.

He lives there part time and the other time in Houston. Same thing in Houston, another shit hole. So, because he is able, he is now going to make his home, at least part-time in Boise. He works remote, and my wife and I would just as soon he and his boys return home and back to some midwestern values.

Would love to see your daughter return to her roots and a resemblance of normalcy.

The medical industry has become a money piraha. The new Doctor's hippocratic oath has become,
"First, do no harm, to your bank account."
My daughter just recited the oath on Monday. I think you are underestimating the level of sacrifice and dedication that comes with pursuing an MD. You seem to be insinuating that Drs are only in it for the money. I think you are failing to take into account how much money was sacrificed to get to the point that they can make money.

Starting in high school my daughter was volunteering in hospitals and other organizations to service others instead of working jobs to make money.

She was accepted to the Raikes School of Computer Science at UNL where she graduated with a degree in Biological Systems Engineering with minors in computer science and business while Pre-Med. While many in her cohort were spending their summers working at high paid internships in Silicon Valley and around the country, she spent her summers grinding out research, shadowing physicians, and pursuing volunteer experiences.

Upon completing her undergrad, she turned down several excellent job opportunities in engineering and in tech including an offer from Apple and from Medtronic, in order to pursue a chance to serve others in healthcare.

Now that she has graduated medical school, she gets to work a 4 year residency (possibly an additional 2 year fellowship in MedEd if she chooses) for less than minimum wage when adjusted to an 80 hour work week.

As a dad, I questioned her all the time if she really thought it was worth it to go down this path.

So in short, she sacrificed 4 years of internship pay and 8-10 years of engineer/computer science pay just to get to the point where she can make money as a physician. Not to mention, the mountain of med school debt accumulated. I don’t think you do that if you are only interested in money.
 
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My daughter just recited the oath on Monday. I think you are underestimating the level of sacrifice and dedication that comes with pursuing an MD. You seem to be insinuating that Drs are only in it for the money. I think you are failing to take into account how much money was sacrificed to get to the point that they can make money.

Starting in high school my daughter was volunteering in hospitals and other organizations to service others instead of working jobs to make money.

She was accepted to the Raikes School of Computer Science at UNL where she graduated with a degree in Biological Systems Engineering with minors in computer science and business while Pre-Med. While many in her cohort were spending their summers working at high paid internships in Silicon Valley and around the country, she spent her summers grinding out research, shadowing physicians, and pursuing volunteer experiences.

Upon completing her undergrad, she turned down several excellent job opportunities in engineering and in tech including an offer from Apple and from Medtronic, in order to pursue a chance to serve others in healthcare.

Now that she has graduated medical school, she gets to work a 4 year residency (possibly an additional 2 year fellowship in MedEd if she chooses) for less than minimum wage when adjusted to an 80 hour work week.

As a dad, I questioned her all the time if she really thought it was worth it to go down this path.

So in short, she sacrificed 4 years of internship pay and 8-10 years of engineer/computer science pay just to get to the point where she can make money as a physician. Not to mention, the mountain of med school debt accumulated. I don’t think you do that if you are only interested in money.
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My daughter just recited the oath on Monday. I think you are underestimating the level of sacrifice and dedication that comes with pursuing an MD. You seem to be insinuating that Drs are only in it for the money. I think you are failing to take into account how much money was sacrificed to get to the point that they can make money.

Starting in high school my daughter was volunteering in hospitals and other organizations to service others instead of working jobs to make money.

She was accepted to the Raikes School of Computer Science at UNL where she graduated with a degree in Biological Systems Engineering with minors in computer science and business while Pre-Med. While many in her cohort were spending their summers working at high paid internships in Silicon Valley and around the country, she spent her summers grinding out research, shadowing physicians, and pursuing volunteer experiences.

Upon completing her undergrad, she turned down several excellent job opportunities in engineering and in tech including an offer from Apple and from Medtronic, in order to pursue a chance to serve others in healthcare.

Now that she has graduated medical school, she gets to work a 4 year residency (possibly an additional 2 year fellowship in MedEd if she chooses) for less than minimum wage when adjusted to an 80 hour work week.

As a dad, I questioned her all the time if she really thought it was worth it to go down this path.

So in short, she sacrificed 4 years of internship pay and 8-10 years of engineer/computer science pay just to get to the point where she can make money as a physician. Not to mention, the mountain of med school debt accumulated. I don’t think you do that if you are only interested in money.
First, congratulations. You should be very proud of your daughter. My son was in the 2019 Raikes cohort and will be taking one of those tech jobs you describe this fall. The Raikes program is excellent and challenging and I'm thankful my son found his way into the program (Thanks Anna and Steve). To remain true to the goal of a medical degree would take a significant amount of focus and selflessness knowing the jobs that are often offered to Raikes grads. I think Raikes + MD would make a wonderful doctor and leader. Again, congratulations to you and to her.
 
First, congratulations. You should be very proud of your daughter. My son was in the 2019 Raikes cohort and will be taking one of those tech jobs you describe this fall. The Raikes program is excellent and challenging and I'm thankful my son found his way into the program (Thanks Anna and Steve). To remain true to the goal of a medical degree would take a significant amount of focus and selflessness knowing the jobs that are often offered to Raikes grads. I think Raikes + MD would make a wonderful doctor and leader. Again, congratulations to you and to her.
Thank you, and congratulations to you as well. I can't say enough good things about the Raikes program. Besides just the technical education and skills development, the development of presentation and communication skills and professionalism is impressive and carries over to whatever career they choose.
 
First, congratulations. You should be very proud of your daughter. My son was in the 2019 Raikes cohort and will be taking one of those tech jobs you describe this fall. The Raikes program is excellent and challenging and I'm thankful my son found his way into the program (Thanks Anna and Steve). To remain true to the goal of a medical degree would take a significant amount of focus and selflessness knowing the jobs that are often offered to Raikes grads. I think Raikes + MD would make a wonderful doctor and leader. Again, congratulations to you and to her.

Raikes was, and I think still is, an excellent program. My son was in the 2015 cohort (incoming freshman) and graduated from there in 2019. He has one of those Silicon Valley jobs previously mentioned, and so far has been able to avoid any of the massive layoffs. Always thought Anna and Steve were great although not sure they are both there???
 
My daughter just recited the oath on Monday. I think you are underestimating the level of sacrifice and dedication that comes with pursuing an MD. You seem to be insinuating that Drs are only in it for the money. I think you are failing to take into account how much money was sacrificed to get to the point that they can make money.

Starting in high school my daughter was volunteering in hospitals and other organizations to service others instead of working jobs to make money.

She was accepted to the Raikes School of Computer Science at UNL where she graduated with a degree in Biological Systems Engineering with minors in computer science and business while Pre-Med. While many in her cohort were spending their summers working at high paid internships in Silicon Valley and around the country, she spent her summers grinding out research, shadowing physicians, and pursuing volunteer experiences.

Upon completing her undergrad, she turned down several excellent job opportunities in engineering and in tech including an offer from Apple and from Medtronic, in order to pursue a chance to serve others in healthcare.

Now that she has graduated medical school, she gets to work a 4 year residency (possibly an additional 2 year fellowship in MedEd if she chooses) for less than minimum wage when adjusted to an 80 hour work week.

As a dad, I questioned her all the time if she really thought it was worth it to go down this path.

So in short, she sacrificed 4 years of internship pay and 8-10 years of engineer/computer science pay just to get to the point where she can make money as a physician. Not to mention, the mountain of med school debt accumulated. I don’t think you do that if you are only interested in money.
Congrats on your daughters ambition and success.
 
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