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Let's throw 4 mil at Jay Wright, jeez.
Have you talked with Power 5 coaches or are you just pulling that out of your ass? What is it with Husker fans being such defeatists? It takes 1 guy that can see potential in a place like this. I heard the same damn thing with Football and AD. We got the pick of the litter in both cases. Are all the espn guys that couldnt hack it in their chosen sports hot takes really that damaging to people?Nebraska isn’t getting a coach from a P5 school. We have been nothing but a coaching career graveyard for our entire existence. Money isn’t the lure it used to be as everyone has the money to pay coaches these days. It’s probably time to start over, just don’t be surprised if it’s rinse and repeat all over again. We are who we are when it comes to basketball.
This is the first time we've gone hunting for a BB coach since we've gained a full share of the B1G. The revenue share surpassed $50M last year. If the NUAD is really willing to open up the pocketbook, and it seems that Moos will do what's necessary to compete, it could change things quick in terms of which coaches are "interested."
NU is still not going to pay a BB coach $5M per year, but the fact that our football coach is now at that level allows Moos to go as high as $3M, one would think. That would be good for the 14th highest salary in 2018-19.
Hiring Frost was huge but it didn't require Moos to open his desk drawer. The salary level and years were also pretty much the market rate. It will be interesting to see how aggressive he plays this since it's his first chance to truly put his stamp on the other big revenue sport.
1. Mike Krzyzewski, Duke
Salary: $8.98 million
2. John Calipari, Kentucky
Salary: $7.99 million
3. Chris Holtmann, Ohio State
Salary: $7.15 million
4. Bill Self, Kansas
Salary: $4.95 million
5. Tom Izzo, Michigan State
Salary: $4.36 million
6. Sean Miller, Arizona
Salary: $4.05 million
7. Bob Huggins, West Virginia
Salary: $3.76 million
8. Larry Krystkowiak, Utah
Salary: $3.39 million
9. John Beilein, Michigan
Salary: $3.37 million
10. Archie Miller, Indiana
Salary: $3.2 million
11. Lon Kruger, Oklahoma
Salary: $3.1 million
12. Shaka Smart, Texas
Salary: $3.1 million
13. Gregg Marshall, Wichita State
Salary: $3.04 million
14. Tony Bennett, Virginia
Salary: $3 million
15. Avery Johnson, Alabama
Salary: $2.89 million
16. Scott Drew, Baylor
Salary: $2.87 million
17. Frank Martin, South Carolina
Salary: $2.85 million
18. Brad Underwood, Illinois
Salary: $2.76 million
19. Buzz Williams, Virginia Tech
Salary: $2.75 million
20. Mark Turgeon, Maryland
Salary: $2.7 million
21. Dana Altman, Oregon
Salary: $2.7 million
22. Cuonzo Martin, Missouri
Salary: $2.7 million
23. Steve Alford, UCLA
Salary: $2.6 million
24. Jay Wright, Villanova
Salary: $2.56 million
25. Mike Anderson, Arkansas
Salary: $2.55 million
26. Michael White, Florida
Salary: $2.53 million
27. Bruce Pearl, Auburn
Salary: $2.52 million
To get a proven coach here Nebraska IMHO, can’t just offer a competitive salary in comparison to other coaches. Any decent, proven HC will realize, taking the Nebraska job comes with huge risks to that coach’s future. Name me a coach who has held the Nebraska job that has moved on to bigger and better things? Moe Iba to TCU? Doc Sadler to Southern Miss? Danny Nee to Robert Morris, Duquesne, and the Merchant Marine Academy?
Not only is it extremely difficult to win here (obviously because no one has done it), taking this job is hazardous to your future ability to be a successful head coach again.
You want a proven coach to take the job, we’re going to have to pay extra for that coach to take that risk. At least that’s the stance I would take if I were the agent for any potential candidate for the job.
Haha this funny. This is not a coach killer job when the coaches that you have hired were never good at all before they got here. Name a proven coach? We had an administration that botched the last 3 hires because they never wanted to invest in a true basketball coaching hire. Always have gone cheep, and for no reason.
Have you talked with Power 5 coaches or are you just pulling that out of your ass? What is it with Husker fans being such defeatists? It takes 1 guy that can see potential in a place like this. I heard the same damn thing with Football and AD. We got the pick of the litter in both cases. Are all the espn guys that couldnt hack it in their chosen sports hot takes really that damaging to people?
Winning percentage at the job prior to Nebraska:
Nee- Ohio- 62%
Collier- Butler- 60%
Sadler- UTEP- 73%
Miles- CSU- 45% (5 seasons win total of 7,9,16,19, and 20 in order). Just over 50% at Nebraska.
Yep none of these coaches were any good before they got here. It can’t be the fact that it is a difficult place to win. Dana freaking Altman from Wilbur, Nebraska was not interested last year, was that because of $$$???Tell me when you pull your head out of the sand to breathe.
TO didn't do much of a search after he fired Callahan, think he talked to turner and bozo. Tom had this thing that you didn't need to spend big money to hire a great coach. But look at his hires, aren't most of them gone? and erstad is on life support.It wasn’t Collier it was his assistants who made those teams. Matta and Stevens turned out to be some of the best in the biz and as soon as Collier said that he wanted to leave his assistants so butler wouldn’t have to rebuild that should have raised red flags.
Doc Sadler can thanks Billy Gillespie
Miles was a TO cheap hire. TO only talked to 2 coaches. Groce and miles. It’s pretty said TO didn’t do a proper search
It wasn’t Collier it was his assistants who made those teams. Matta and Stevens turned out to be some of the best in the biz and as soon as Collier said that he wanted to leave his assistants so butler wouldn’t have to rebuild that should have raised red flags.
Doc Sadler can thanks Billy Gillespie
Miles was a TO cheap hire. TO only talked to 2 coaches. Groce and miles. It’s pretty sad TO didn’t do a proper search
there is probably some nuance in their records before they got here, but on their face, your points have validity.Winning percentage at the job prior to Nebraska:
Nee- Ohio- 62%
Collier- Butler- 60%
Sadler- UTEP- 73%
Miles- CSU- 45% (5 seasons win total of 7,9,16,19, and 20 in order). Just over 50% at Nebraska.
Yep none of these coaches were any good before they got here. It can’t be the fact that it is a difficult place to win. Dana freaking Altman from Wilbur, Nebraska was not interested last year, was that because of $$$???Tell me when you pull your head out of the sand to breathe.
Yet again, you dodged the fact that a proven native son wasn’t even interested in discussing the job last year. He wasn’t the only one who would not even discuss the possibility of coming here.
I agree that Nebraska hasn’t historically tried real hard to get a P5 proven coach, but you are a fool if you think it won’t cost extra to get one to come to Lincoln.
To get a proven coach here Nebraska IMHO, can’t just offer a competitive salary in comparison to other coaches. Any decent, proven HC will realize, taking the Nebraska job comes with huge risks to that coach’s future. Name me a coach who has held the Nebraska job that has moved on to bigger and better things? Moe Iba to TCU? Doc Sadler to Southern Miss? Danny Nee to Robert Morris, Duquesne, and the Merchant Marine Academy?
Not only is it extremely difficult to win here (obviously because no one has done it), taking this job is hazardous to your future ability to be a successful head coach again.
You want a proven coach to take the job, we’re going to have to pay extra for that coach to take that risk. At least that’s the stance I would take if I were the agent for any potential candidate for the job.
Chip Kelly turned down Florida too, a supposed top 5 Job in College football, for UCLA, a basketball school who has accomplished dick in the world of college football and isn't even the best football school in their own city. We offered Scott more stability, just as much money, better facilities, and more patience than Florida ever could. It was icing on the cake that he's a Husker.So you think Scott Frost turns down Florida to come to Nebraska if he had zero ties to Nebraska? We got lucky.
What about the report that Tom Crean wanted this job 2 years ago? The guy has been to a Final four, coached several NBA all stars and a hall of famer in Wade, Won 2 B1G titles and been to 4 Sweet 16's. This is a good job, it wasn't 10 years ago but it is today.Yet again, you dodged the fact that a proven native son wasn’t even interested in discussing the job last year. He wasn’t the only one who would not even discuss the possibility of coming here.
I agree that Nebraska hasn’t historically tried real hard to get a P5 proven coach, but you are a fool if you think it won’t cost extra to get one to come to Lincoln.
To get a proven coach here Nebraska IMHO, can’t just offer a competitive salary in comparison to other coaches. Any decent, proven HC will realize, taking the Nebraska job comes with huge risks to that coach’s future. Name me a coach who has held the Nebraska job that has moved on to bigger and better things? Moe Iba to TCU? Doc Sadler to Southern Miss? Danny Nee to Robert Morris, Duquesne, and the Merchant Marine Academy?
Not only is it extremely difficult to win here (obviously because no one has done it), taking this job is hazardous to your future ability to be a successful head coach again.
You want a proven coach to take the job, we’re going to have to pay extra for that coach to take that risk. At least that’s the stance I would take if I were the agent for any potential candidate for the job.
Agree, I don't know much about the other coaches, but Miles was nothing special when hired. I think the reason the past ADs when cheap and unproven is because we are a football school. BBall comes 2nd. Their focus was never to spend to get a good coach and compete for NC. It was to go cheap and produce a winning record. If we could sniff the tourney just added benefit. I hope Moos is able to pull in a proven winner and spend the money if need be. There is no reason we can't be a football and BBall school. Many in the Midwest do it.Haha this funny. This is not a coach killer job when the coaches that you have hired were never good at all before they got here. Name a proven coach? We had an administration that botched the last 3 hires because they never wanted to invest in a true basketball coaching hire. Always have gone cheep, and for no reason.
TO didn't do much of a search after he fired Callahan, think he talked to turner and bozo. Tom had this thing that you didn't need to spend big money to hire a great coach. But look at his hires, aren't most of them gone? and erstad is on life support.
No question TO didn’t want to spend a lot of money on a hire like himself he didn’t feel Coach’s should be highly paid..
That old school mentality does not work well in today’s world.
I don't disagree with your general premise. Just because NU/Moos might be willing to spend top 15 money, 'Brasketball fans shouldn't expect a top 15 or top 25 coach to come strolling in.
At the same time, NU has always gone cheap on BB hires before. If we're truly ready to spend like a big boy for the first time ever (to match the big boy facilities we've already ponied up for), we'll at least get a genuine conversation with a rising star, an assistant at a blue blood, someone who might be ready for "one last adventure" (while still delivering results) or maybe someone with baggage (*gasp*) if Moos has room for that.
Most of the candidates mentioned ITT are probably pure fantasy, but NU has to do everything within its power to compete. We can't change the recruiting landscape and we can't go back and change our history. But we can and did upgrade our facilities to enviable levels and we can spend money to attract someone who otherwise wouldn't be in our grasp, wherever our hiring "bubble" lies.
It's just the cost of doing business imo and one of the few bullets NU can fire like a powerhouse when it comes to men's hoops. Now that Riley and Bo are no longer on the payroll (finally) and we're sitting on a full B1G share (finally), there's no excuse to not at least take a big swing at somebody.
There was never a conversation with Altman other then through a third party. Moos didn’t have the full green light to make a change last year. I know that for fact. I am not sure who the other coach is you are referring to though.
Chip Kelly turned down Florida too, a supposed top 5 Job in College football, for UCLA, a basketball school who has accomplished dick in the world of college football and isn't even the best football school in their own city. We offered Scott more stability, just as much money, better facilities, and more patience than Florida ever could. It was icing on the cake that he's a Husker.
Basketball is a different animal, we don't have tradition, but we can pay a guy $4 Million a year. We have top 10 level facilities. Amazing fan support,(We were 11th in attendance 2 years ago with a team that won 12 games, 12), Fans that will be patient, we've given Tim Miles 7 years with 2 winning seasons, and they will support the program while it's being built up. 10 years ago we played in a shitty run down arena and didn't have a practice facility and we were unable or unwilling to pay for a good coach. That is not the case today. This job is going to be much more attractive to candidates than it was even 7 years ago. Tom hired Tim in large part because he was having success with Nebraska kids and John Groce turned him down for Illinois. Bill Moos is going to be able to snag a far bigger fish based on what this job is today, a really good Power 5 job.
there is probably some nuance in their records before they got here, but on their face, your points have validity.
i thought it was mentioned here that Altman was done with N before oregon came along since he got passed over before...no?
That's because it was communicated through the third party that there'd be zero interest if the job came open.
Jeeze people.
Whats Jackson doing these days? Give him a call.
Nothing wrong with dreamin, but if Moos gets any of these guys mentioned he must be a magician. I have no doubt he will open the checkbook and try, but hurley? Cmon.
We will get a lesser known head coach or assistant. Its what we have to do,a dn one of them will pan out. Better than miles.
Tell me how many school made the dance last year that had lesser facilities than Nebraska. How many schools play their games in really old not so nice buildings and succeed? Winning, and winning over a long period of time matters a hell of a lot more. When facilities is your top selling point for a recruit, you are already behind.
Well there are 32 auto qualifiers and 5 Power conferences plus the Big East. So 26 schools we can assume have smaller budgets and worse facilities won a conference tournament to get in. But we're in the B1G and we don't need to win our conference to get into the dance, we just have to be in the top half of our conference.Tell me how many school made the dance last year that had lesser facilities than Nebraska. How many schools play their games in really old not so nice buildings and succeed? Winning, and winning over a long period of time matters a hell of a lot more. When facilities is your top selling point for a recruit, you are already behind.
That would be stupid on his part. Dana can get a $4 million dollar offer from Moos show Phil Knight the contract and make $4.5 Million from UO.That's because it was communicated through the third party that there'd be zero interest if the job came open.
with all respect, I believe that we Husker fans have an unnecessary negative viewpoint about Nebraska basketball. We have the facilities, the fan baseTotally agree. My point is that I doubt Moos can just match another schools offer for a big name. It will have to be a lot better, because no one has ever succeeded here. Anyone who doesn't think that matters is crazy. You want a big name here, we will have to pay, and pay more than probably any other school that might target the same coach.
We are going to have to find a coach who is arrogant enough, confident enough, or crazy enough to think he can win here without an alumni base or athletic department that has shown the willingness to 'cut corners' and play Russian Roulette with the NCAA.
Well there are 32 auto qualifiers and 5 Power conferences plus the Big East. So 26 schools we can assume have smaller budgets and worse facilities won a conference tournament to get in. But we're in the B1G and we don't need to win our conference to get into the dance, we just have to be in the top half of our conference.
Geno Auriemma one of the greatest coaches in the history of basketball said coaches should ask this when considering a job: 'Can we be successful here? I'm not gonna take a job I can't win at. So what makes you successful? What are our facilities like? Whats our recruiting base like? Whats our support like from the university? What about fan base?'
The Nebraska job
can you be successful here? Depends how you define success, winning a national title isn't feasible but making it to the dance every couple of years certainly is if you consider that successful, which I assume most Husker fans would.
Facilities? As good as it gets
Recruiting base? Okay, Nebraska doesn't produce much in terms of basketball talent and the best kids in our region are going to go to Kansas. But we can recruit Chicago, Omaha, Lincoln, Kansas City, Denver, St. Louis, and Minneapolis with some effectiveness.
Support from the University? Historically awful, but in the past 5 years it's been on par with our conference rivals, enough that we can compete for a tourney spot.
Fan Base? As good as it gets
I'm not trying to argue with you that Nebraska is an elite coaching job. It's not, but it is a good one. Maybe Hoiberg goes to UCLA or Texas and Altman probably stays at UO but we can do a helluva a lot better than Tim Miles.
Yet again, you dodged the fact that a proven native son wasn’t even interested in discussing the job last year. He wasn’t the only one who would not even discuss the possibility of coming here.
I agree that Nebraska hasn’t historically tried real hard to get a P5 proven coach, but you are a fool if you think it won’t cost extra to get one to come to Lincoln.
I think we all need to come to grips with the fact that we are as good as we are going to get unless we start cheating.Well there are 32 auto qualifiers and 5 Power conferences plus the Big East. So 26 schools we can assume have smaller budgets and worse facilities won a conference tournament to get in. But we're in the B1G and we don't need to win our conference to get into the dance, we just have to be in the top half of our conference.
Geno Auriemma one of the greatest coaches in the history of basketball said coaches should ask this when considering a job: 'Can we be successful here? I'm not gonna take a job I can't win at. So what makes you successful? What are our facilities like? Whats our recruiting base like? Whats our support like from the university? What about fan base?'
The Nebraska job
can you be successful here? Depends how you define success, winning a national title isn't feasible but making it to the dance every couple of years certainly is if you consider that successful, which I assume most Husker fans would.
Facilities? As good as it gets
Recruiting base? Okay, Nebraska doesn't produce much in terms of basketball talent and the best kids in our region are going to go to Kansas. But we can recruit Chicago, Omaha, Lincoln, Kansas City, Denver, St. Louis, and Minneapolis with some effectiveness.
Support from the University? Historically awful, but in the past 5 years it's been on par with our conference rivals, enough that we can compete for a tourney spot.
Fan Base? As good as it gets
I'm not trying to argue with you that Nebraska is an elite coaching job. It's not, but it is a good one. Maybe Hoiberg goes to UCLA or Texas and Altman probably stays at UO but we can do a helluva a lot better than Tim Miles.
I think we all need to come to grips with the fact that we are as good as we are going to get unless we start cheating.
I think we all need to come to grips with the fact that we are as good as we are going to get unless we start cheating.
Who were they playing when they did that?Hoiberg isn’t coming... if you want to watch a fun team turn in ESPN2. Nate Oats and Buffalo are tough and fun to watch. Just had a possession when they got 5 straight Offensive rebounds and ended with and And 1 layup on the 5th one. Not a player over 6’9” on the court either
Doesn’t matter who they were playing, they were playing hard and never quit on the play. How many times can Nebraska say that recently? They play hard and have the 6th highest scoring offense in the nation. I’m not sure how many of these guys Oats recruited himself but they play hard for him and the are well coached.Who were they playing when they did that?