I don't think Campbell though would have 80% of the fan base on board.
HC - Where are you currently at?
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I would be happy with Rhule, BOB, Urban, Leipold, Kiffin, Kleiman, and possibly Aranda.
We have had f... shitty HC's for so long any of the above would get us to 9+ wins and eventually competing for Division or conference titles
We have had f... shitty HC's for so long any of the above would get us to 9+ wins and eventually competing for Division or conference titles
Frost went 16-31 here which is about 34%.
If Mickey only gets one more win he will be 3-6 which is 33%.
Sadly, that really isn't an improvement. Hopefully, he can get a few more wins but I doubt it.
If Mickey only gets one more win he will be 3-6 which is 33%.
Sadly, that really isn't an improvement. Hopefully, he can get a few more wins but I doubt it.
I'm all in on Kiffin or Klieman. Better coaches than them (somewhat subjective) we're unlikely to get them for various reasons (Urban, Rhule, Gundy).
Wild card: would still love Baylor OC Grimes - IF he wanted to be a HC finally after years as a successful OC. If not, I'd take Aranda so long as Grimes was a part of the package deal.
Wild card: would still love Baylor OC Grimes - IF he wanted to be a HC finally after years as a successful OC. If not, I'd take Aranda so long as Grimes was a part of the package deal.
I think Trev will not pick someone just because of there record. His number 1 question will be what is the plan to turn this around to any coach. If he likes mickeys answer the best then he will be the guy regardless of how this season plays out. The reasoning behind this thought on Mickey is that no matter what happens this season chances are there will be a lot of staff changes going into next season. I imagine Mickey would hire an OC that is more of a spread style offense than a pro style because that fits better with the players mickey likes to recruit. I also think unlike Frost, Mickey sees the need for OL recruits. OL and DL was an afterthought to Frost and it is evident.
The biggest question Trev will have to ask himself of anyone will be how does this fit into the Big Ten. Frost wanted to "Have the B1G adapt to us" clearly didn't work.
The biggest question Trev will have to ask himself of anyone will be how does this fit into the Big Ten. Frost wanted to "Have the B1G adapt to us" clearly didn't work.
At this moment in time IF Trev had his guy, I would bet it’s Aranda….😐
there are coaches out there that can SHOW Trev their plan and the results that that plan yielded rather than just TELL him
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I think Leipold is the most realistic for us (not that he’s my top choice, but I’m very impressed). I just see the tea leaves pointing to him or Mickey if Trev wants to roll with MJ.
BOB is also very realistic to me, and while polarizing perhaps, he’d be more than a solid choice.
I actually don’t see many other names panning out as realistic, but anything is possible.
BOB is also very realistic to me, and while polarizing perhaps, he’d be more than a solid choice.
I actually don’t see many other names panning out as realistic, but anything is possible.
I don't think the fans reaction will be unpredictable. Some will like it. Some will be in the wait and see mood. And some will hate it.
I'll support whomever. The only criticism I'll put out is the criticism of their track record. If it's shitty, then that's how I'll feel about the hire.
I'll post my opinion and react to the criticisms of my opinion, but that'll be it until the 3rd year. We'll know by year 3 what kind of chops the new hire has.
Don't worry, we will all do the same and then someone will dig up our posts from that time and tell us how dumb we are. Never fails.
I think BOB might be the most likely right now. He and Trev have known each other a long time, he has the experience and has been through the Saban training course. Maybe a homerun hire comes out of the blue, but I think BOB is probably the favorite in the clubhouse right now.
Riley had an 80% approval rating. It's not a high bar and pretty much a meaningless statement.
So we shouldn't hire a guy based on their record, but should hire a guy no matter how bad his record is? Totally makes sense in bizarro world. Don't get the fixation with Mickey other than him being a former player. He doesn't deserve the job.
It was never Mickey's job other than to finish out the year as a placeholder since it was clear we needed to move on from Frost. He isn't a good coach and isn't a serious candidate.
Thanks, never knew that. So Nebraska's administration has always been incompetent... We just lucked out big time with Devaney.
No he didn't.. Half of the fanbase was literally like WTF. Husker fans are loyal and will end up supporting anyone to an extent, but no, 80% of our fanbase did not like the Riley hire.
Mickey is a Nebraska guy he understands the culture that alone should put him at the top of the list. I can see improvement on the field. These players would run through a brick wall for Mickey.
It is likely to be a repeat of the last 20+ years of hiring HCs.
When Frank was let go, some were glad, while others still think it was wrong.
Some fans feel Callahan could have had success had he fired Cosgrove.
The firing of Bo revealed a lot of several types of fan reactions.
The hiring of Riley did nothing to inspire anyone. His firing was no big deal.
The hiring of Frost was met with a pocket of those who didn't want it, the vast majority were excited, and his firing had lots of emotions both for and against.
The next coach will face similar types of varied approaches to the different thoughts of many fans.
If someone other than Mickey is hired, if he is unable to turn this ship around in 2 years or so, there will always be that "they should have hired Mickey" sentiment, regardless of his inexperience.
If the new coach doesn't get it done, stick a fork in this thing, and time to quit wasting the emotional energy of a doomed program.
It's obvious, whoever gets the job, will have a monumental task for a year or two just because of the overall losing attitude, lack of current physical talent, and it all starts with firing Duvall and finding the right S & C coach who can begin the process of building athletes into D! athletes.
I don’t believe for a minute Riley had that high of a approval rating..
Majority were thinking what the fvck or Who is he..
Akin to the former LB Nick Buonoconti who was an undersized LB for the Dolphins. They said he could run through a brick wall, but it woud be a small hole.
If we're going to do the up and comer route, it should be someone like Garret Riley and not Mickey.
I’d be very surprised who ever is hired that we wouldn’t want to retain Mickey on how he is recruiting his butt off..
Sure, but by the start of the season, 90%+ were willing to give him a chance. I'd call that a 90% approval rating.
Well what ever choice did anyone have.. That’s clearly not the same when it comes to approving wanting him being the next head coach.
wanting Nebraska to be successful any fan wants that…Knowing he was a bad hire is another..
I chose not to support him. I wanted him fired in year 1 and I was definitely in the minority. His approval was 90% at least.
Absolutely! I cant wait to drag you through the mud bro!
After year one he surely didn’t have 90% approval rating despite getting approval playing in a bowl game with a losing record..
Everyone of them would have well above 80% approval rate. That's an incredibly low bar to pass.
The problem with the 80% approval rating is that 90% of the fanbase is indifferent anymore. Those of us that are outspoken on a message board or social media, make up a very small percentage of the actual fan base.
To get 80% approval, if what is reported or discussed is true, it will be the conservative hire that doesn't make waves or isn't outspoken on social media. Unfortunately, getting 80% approval from a fan base more concerned with "doing things right" vs winning will get us "doing things right" results.
I know I sound like a broken record, but Klieman or Leipold or Campbell will put an artificial ceiling on results. Those guys don't recruit at a high level, they are defined by coaching to not lose games rather than win. They will win a few games they aren't supposed to but by and large, they will lose to teams that out talent them. The bigger problem with hiring coaches like that is that the fan base that wanted them, will also want them fired when they don't get to and win conference championship games. We have a history of firing coaches (Solich and Pelini) who do exactly that.
At some point, someone in charge needs to set the expectation. Is it to win titles or is it to have a ceiling of 9-10 wins every once in a while.
To get 80% approval, if what is reported or discussed is true, it will be the conservative hire that doesn't make waves or isn't outspoken on social media. Unfortunately, getting 80% approval from a fan base more concerned with "doing things right" vs winning will get us "doing things right" results.
I know I sound like a broken record, but Klieman or Leipold or Campbell will put an artificial ceiling on results. Those guys don't recruit at a high level, they are defined by coaching to not lose games rather than win. They will win a few games they aren't supposed to but by and large, they will lose to teams that out talent them. The bigger problem with hiring coaches like that is that the fan base that wanted them, will also want them fired when they don't get to and win conference championship games. We have a history of firing coaches (Solich and Pelini) who do exactly that.
At some point, someone in charge needs to set the expectation. Is it to win titles or is it to have a ceiling of 9-10 wins every once in a while.
I don't know what the attraction is when someone brings up a post by someone that didn't age well (in my case, the post actually died).Absolutely! I cant wait to drag you through the mud bro!
It just seems so bush league.
If you never offer an opinion that's controversial or not some middle of the road prediction/opinion, why be on an opinion forum?
The biggest offenders are usually those who don't have the balls to actually say what they think because they wouldn't like the same treatment. LOL
Want to retain and being able to retain are pretty far apart. Everyone wants MJ to stay on staff, but unfortunately, I’m skeptical he would stick around if it’s not as HC.
Agree. People that are non-committal don't bring much to the board, they certainly don't introduce topics or non-middle-of-the-road opinions that offer anything of substance.
I like to reply to guys who have a strong opinions, even if I disagree with them.
Agree on getting the most out of them. Klieman is about the right age. He's already done KState enough of a favor. Let's see if he is satisfied with a life of doing more with less. Sometimes it's nice to do more with more.
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