Flu shot

[dinglefritz]

Well it does kind of stand to reason that it isn't as virulent as it was. Compare Italy and New York to Florida and Texas. Something has probably changed other than sunlight. Maybe people are trying to be more healthy and that explains it. Doubt it, but its possible.

2 things. WAY more young people are included in the number of positive tests. Second, the way we treated patients in the early weeks and months of this outbreak was exacerbating some of the disease. Things have changed dramatically and so have outcomes for a large percentage of people who require hospitalizations. A lack of exposure to sunlight and the resulting vitamin D deficiencies associated with that can not be discounted. Vitamin D is an ESSENTIAL vitamin for you body to function and MOST people in an urban setting in the winter and early spring are vitamin D deficient. Diseases are ALWAYS multifactorial. Infective dose, age, immune status, nutritional status, stress, comorbidities etc etc. Vitamins D and C are especially important to your immune system's function. I discounted Zinc as a factor in this disease but research supports it. In general many people who don't eat red meat may be deficient in Zinc. Lots of factors.

 

[dinglefritz]

I have single handily supported the economy of a town the size of Kearney by my eating out. I ❤️ Restaurants.

We've mostly been getting carry out with a few outings to patio dining. We still tip the 20% when we get carry out. Most places the wait staff splits all the tips. My kid is waiting tables so I'm probably a sitting duck anyway.

 

[Iroh2]

We've mostly been getting carry out with a few outings to patio dining. We still tip the 20% when we get carry out. Most places the wait staff splits all the tips. My kid is waiting tables so I'm probably a sitting duck anyway.

Sweet! Need this to become the norm...

 

[Newbomb_Turk1]

It's free with my insurance and get it when I get them for my sons. Both play basketball and dont want anything to screw up their seasons (see 96 Big 12 Championship Game). Got the flu about 15 years ago and havent got it since I started getting one.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Zero chance...My now dead ex was an RN and her opinion was it didn't hurt but it might not help either because there were to many different strains but you should do it anyway...

 

[RedCap]

Once the vaccines become widely available I think the situation will become like kids going to school. You can choose not to be vaccinated BUT you will then be denied entry to certain events/locations like sports events, concerts, hospitals, rest homes, etc. where the chances of transmission are high.

Now that's just my speculation. Haven't seen it predicted any where else but if they can deny kids entry to schools without vaccination then this would be similar with Covid-19 being so contagious.

By the way I believe that requiring vaccination for certain things was already ruled legal by the Supreme Court a long time ago.

 

[SomedayHusker]

Nope. Won’t ever take one. But I’m not mad if you do.

I’ve already had “friends” get mad at me for saying I won’t take the Covid shot. “How will I know if you’re safe to be around?” They say...These friends are ironically “pro choice“ voters who would vote yes in a heartbeat to force foreign substances into *my* body.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

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Gotta stick with Yookyung, the original kpop girl group drummer

 

[bigboxes]

Sweet! Need this to become the norm...

I hate tipping for carryout. Tipping is for service, not for handing you the food you paid for. However, I have been generously tipping takeout during the pandemic. It's not their fault that the pandemic has shut things down. I want the mom & pop places to survive this. A lot of them have closed for good.

 

[bigboxes]

And yes to a future COVID-19 shot. I want to stop wearing masks and standing six-feet apart.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Yep, I have to every year for my job.

 

[Iroh2]

I hate tipping for carryout. Tipping is for service, not for handing you the food you paid for. However, I have been generously tipping takeout during the pandemic. It's not their fault that the pandemic has shut things down. I want the mom & pop places to survive this. A lot of them have closed for good.

Same here...

 

[Iroh2]

I’ve already had “friends” get mad at me for saying I won’t take the Covid shot. “How will I know if you’re safe to be around?” They say...These friends are ironically “pro choice“ voters who would vote yes in a heartbeat to force foreign substances into *my* body.

Definitely first world problems... I do believe that non-vaccinated people (for any of the key diseases, MMR, Covid, flu) should not be allowed in school or other public places. They are a drag on the economy as they are promoting disease spread and lost work time. Definitely your right, but it is also my right to not be exposed to disease so stay home.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

Yep, I have to every year for my job.

Fiance is the same way (RN)

ive never gotten one, but also never gotten the flu.. kind of neither here nor there, frankly, but maybe that’s not the right approach *shrugs*

 

[Crazyhole]

Once the vaccines become widely available I think the situation will become like kids going to school. You can choose not to be vaccinated BUT you will then be denied entry to certain events/locations like sports events, concerts, hospitals, rest homes, etc. where the chances of transmission are high.

Now that's just my speculation. Haven't seen it predicted any where else but if they can deny kids entry to schools without vaccination then this would be similar with Covid-19 being so contagious.

By the way I believe that requiring vaccination for certain things was already ruled legal by the Supreme Court a long time ago.

I tend to agree, and yes you are right about the SCOTUS ruling, but it seems like this would be pretty close to a HIPPA violation in some instances.

 

[c3o]

Definitely first world problems... I do believe that non-vaccinated people (for any of the key diseases, MMR, Covid, flu) should not be allowed in school or other public places. They are a drag on the economy as they are promoting disease spread and lost work time. Definitely your right, but it is also my right to not be exposed to disease so stay home.

Getting sick or not isn't a right. It's a human condition. My freedoms don't end where your fears begin.

 

[otismotis08]

Haven't had one in 20+ years. That was the last time I actually contracted the flu. No more.

 

[dinglefritz]

Haven't had one in 20+ years. That was the last time I actually contracted the flu. No more.

Ummm no. You've contracted the flu in those 20 years probably every year. You just have a high enough natural immunity that you haven't become seriously ill......yet. Often times people who have good immune systems in their younger years and are in frequent contact with others, have a fairly good natural acquired immunity to various viruses. At some point though your luck will run out. I will say that flu vaccines in general in multiple species are a bit of a crap shoot because of the large variations in serotypes. This COVID-19 virus and Corona viruses in general are a MUCH different deal than flu vaccines though. Please get the COVID vaccine when it's available.

 

[Crazyhole]

Ummm no. You've contracted the flu in those 20 years probably every year. You just have a high enough natural immunity that you haven't become seriously ill......yet. Often times people who have good immune systems in their younger years and are in frequent contact with others, have a fairly good natural acquired immunity to various viruses. At some point though your luck will run out. I will say that flu vaccines in general in multiple species are a bit of a crap shoot because of the large variations in serotypes. This COVID-19 virus and Corona viruses in general are a MUCH different deal than flu vaccines though. Please get the COVID vaccine when it's available.

To quote the most recent panic porn: we don't know what the long term side effects are yet.

 

[c3o]

Ummm no. You've contracted the flu in those 20 years probably every year. You just have a high enough natural immunity that you haven't become seriously ill......yet. Often times people who have good immune systems in their younger years and are in frequent contact with others, have a fairly good natural acquired immunity to various viruses. At some point though your luck will run out. I will say that flu vaccines in general in multiple species are a bit of a crap shoot because of the large variations in serotypes. This COVID-19 virus and Corona viruses in general are a MUCH different deal than flu vaccines though. Please get the COVID vaccine when it's available.

aren’t the covid vaccines basically a bump in antibodies?

 

[jedimasterjed]

I don't ever get one but I don't understand why people get them. It should be a personal choice

 

[ZaneHickey]

Who’s getting the flu shot this year?

Never have, to my recollection. But man, when I was in the hospital last year for something unrelated, the nurse's entire disposition went WAY south when I told her I hadn't had it, and gave a "no thanks" to the offer. Turned into Nurse Ratched, in an instant!

 

[kerpal_68]

Yes because the "boss" my wife has made me get one the last three years. I will probably keep getting it.

 

[SomedayHusker]

Definitely first world problems... I do believe that non-vaccinated people (for any of the key diseases, MMR, Covid, flu) should not be allowed in school or other public places. They are a drag on the economy as they are promoting disease spread and lost work time. Definitely your right, but it is also my right to not be exposed to disease so stay home.

Flawed logic. If you go get vaccinated why would you be worried about non vaccinated people? My body my rights. You’re afraid to go outside because of something that may be in PUBLIC air...that’s your problem.

 

[gw2kpro]

Flawed logic. If you go get vaccinated why would you be worried about non vaccinated people? My body my rights. You’re afraid to go outside because of something that may be in PUBLIC air...that’s your problem.

Reading a lot of recent headlines, I think most people will get vaccinated for the corona virus. It protects others.

 

[leodisflowers]

I think most people will get vaccinated for the corona virus, if reading the news is any indication. It protects others.

There has been some interesting poll data released on this saying there is a pretty large swath of the population that will not get the vaccine when available.

 

[SomedayHusker]

I think most people will get vaccinated for the corona virus, if reading the news is any indication. It protects others.

oh my...have you not seen what the news has done to our world? Reading the news has been nothing but a source of mass hate, confusion and division. “Others” can go get shot up or stay home. Getting a shot is not a fundamental requirement for freedom. That would only exist in a tyrannical government.

 

[gw2kpro]

There has been some interesting poll data released on this saying there is a pretty large swath of the population that will not get the vaccine when available.

Hopefully, then, none of those people thinks everyone else should undertake all kinds of precautions they approve of in order to "protect others".

Because nothing "protects others" as well as immunity.

 

[SomedayHusker]

Hopefully, then, none of those people thinks everyone else should undertake all kinds of precautions they approve of in order to "protect others".

Because nothing "protects others" as well as immunity.

None of us think that...and yes, understandably there are a TON of us who don’t trust the billionaire, shitty computer maker to make our vaccine. I’ve never had the flu shot, I’ve had the flu, and I’ll continue to live that way until I’m convinced to change by my own body.

 

[dinglefritz]

aren’t the covid vaccines basically a bump in antibodies?

COVID vaccines cause a bump in your natural antibodies AND Cell Mediated Immunity much the same as exposure to the wild virus. CMI is probably way more important to protecting us from infection than the shorter term circulating antibody response you get. The benefit is that the vaccine only contains protein subunits (antigens) of the virus and not the whole virus. It should not make you ill. Most people who have reactions to the flu vaccine or who will have reactions to COVID vaccine actually react to the carriers or adjuvants the vaccine is suspended in and not the antigens. In COVID's case, the vaccine is primarily being made to several protein spikes on the outside of the viral capsule that allow it to attach to and penetrate your body's cells. Those pathogenic "spikes" have remained genetically pretty constant even though the whole virus has had some very small mutations.