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Final 17th on Rivals and 19th on 247.
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Freaking out in June over the recruiting class is just dumb. RELAX
we're so far ahead of where we'd been at this time over the last 6+ years it's absurd
class also looks like we're going to focus on building inside-out instead of outside-in, something we all should appreciate
10 kids from TX + NE. many with much to prove
A Fong bomb for Anderson, the Edge out of St Louis that visited earlier in the month...reminder, the dad is a former NFL player and wad highly complimentary of Rhule and Nebraska
Also, doubt Clark and the S From CO leave uncommitted
Also, doubt Clark and the S From CO leave uncommitted
Not to burst any bubbles, but there are currently 24 teams ranked below Nebraska on Rivals, which have at least two (and in many cases 4 or more) fewer commitments, but a higher average rating. If you’re expecting a top 20 recruiting class you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. The #18 ranking is just a snapshot in time.
We're also not done yet with commits and reevaluations. You don't think 2 more 4 star commits and 2 more 4 stars bumped will put us into a top 20 class?? We'll have to wait and see I guess. Top 25 for sure. Maybe top 20.
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As is the fact recruits will be rated and re-rated throughout the season
Maybe a snapshot now, but Kaelin and Mc Morris for example will rise
No, I don’t. Scan the list below Nebraska and you’ll find too many perennial top 20 teams with 5+ fewer commits than Nebraska, which will jump many teams currently ahead of them. I counted 14 schools with at least 4 fewer commits, but still have a minimum .2 * higher average. There are a number with a .4 * average advantage.
Matt Rhule and this first-year Nebraska staff catching fire on the recruiting trail
A June surge sees the Huskers rise to No. 17 in the 247Sports Recruiting Rankings
247sports.com
“I’m super optimistic and love the direction of the program right now,” Kaelin recently told 247Sports. He’s expecting Nebraska to be competitive right away.
I think most fans understand this… that doesn’t mean the coaches are recruiting hacks either. It’ll come down to development. As long as these coaches can develop the talent they are recruiting, we will be ok. Rhule isn’t know for too 20 classes. But he is known for developing talent. And the guys we have committed seem to have talent.
I’ve been a star watcher in the past, always hopeful for a top 20-25 team. While that would be great if Rhule accomplished this, I’m less concerned about where his class ranks because of his history of developing players.
Hate to rain on the parade, but you're probably right, unfortunately. Florida St, Ole Miss, Alabama, aTm, Auburn, Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas and a few others likely jump us. But there are a few above us who will drop too. Stanford and Minnesota, just to name a couple. Honestly, there are still about 20 uncommitted 5 stars and about 100 uncommitted 4 stars that will almost all commit somewhere other than us. Still early, but yeah top 20 is gonna be pretty tight. But hey, let's enjoy it while it lasts and trust Rhule is getting some diamonds in the rough.
I’d take all these 3 star over the zero star whiny babies on this thread. “Well…we’ll.. we’ve sucked so long why would I be optimistic” “well..well..im not gonna get my hopes up til I see some progress” how about you do this. Take your big cry baby ass bottom lip, pull it up over your head and swallow. I can tell you what doesn’t help the rebuilding of this program. The negative ass mindset and bitching about a proven winner head coach who is pulling in athletic guys who actually WANT to play for the scarlet and cream! GFY and GBR!!!!!
Also meant to add, I hope everybody has a great weekend! Get out and get some fresh air. Enjoy a nice Captain and Coke or 10.
Also meant to add, I hope everybody has a great weekend! Get out and get some fresh air. Enjoy a nice Captain and Coke or 10.
The bottom line for me is trusting that our coaches are better at evaluating recruits than the services are. The rankings are fun but the difference between the 15th ranked class and the 30th ranked class all comes down to your coaches’ evaluation and development.
Not to burst your bubble but Nebraska currently has a number of players (DK, McMorris, et al) who are going to bumped up to four stars in the near future. Oh, and 4 star EDGE Anderson just got a Fongbomb to NU. Keep playin' and welcome to the board.
I remember listening to Howard Schnellenberger talk about how he flipped Miami. 1) get the local kids, 2) go after track guys, and 3) get basketball guys. He said some of those guys never touched a football when they were kids. He also wanted his guys to run faster and run around the opposing team. Weights were for the big uglies. Speed kills and it smoked Nebraska in several Orange Bowls.
Jump forward 10 years and Charlie McBride was doing the same thing. Safeties to linebackers, linebackers to rush ends and faster athletes at the corners.
I hate the recruiting hype because it is so damned subjective to personal belief and silly ratings. As far as I’m concerned, let Rhule do it his way. To those guys that say his star rating is lower than Frost or Riley or whoever, so what. At this juncture, different is good until it doesn’t work. Give Rhule a chance and stop comparing him to dipshits like Frost and Riley.
Jump forward 10 years and Charlie McBride was doing the same thing. Safeties to linebackers, linebackers to rush ends and faster athletes at the corners.
I hate the recruiting hype because it is so damned subjective to personal belief and silly ratings. As far as I’m concerned, let Rhule do it his way. To those guys that say his star rating is lower than Frost or Riley or whoever, so what. At this juncture, different is good until it doesn’t work. Give Rhule a chance and stop comparing him to dipshits like Frost and Riley.
Hopefully as we improve on the field, they will vastly improve in recruiting. Just my opinion, but half of the class can't be guys with 0-1 other Power 5 offers if you expect to play for conference titles. I just think right now this is probably the best this staff can do.
I'm sure some of these guys will turn into decent to really good players, but that's not enough to offset the talent gap with Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and Penn State. If they are willing to "process" out a lot of guys each year for a new group of diamond in the rough guys, then we may be able to be at the top of that second tier of programs in the BIG with this strategy.
I'm sure some of these guys will turn into decent to really good players, but that's not enough to offset the talent gap with Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and Penn State. If they are willing to "process" out a lot of guys each year for a new group of diamond in the rough guys, then we may be able to be at the top of that second tier of programs in the BIG with this strategy.
How do you figure that? How about I give you some facts:
2019 Baylor football went 11-2. 2016 Baylor had the #40 ranked recruiting class and 2017 class was #39.
They beat Texas 24-10 in 2019. Texas had the #6 recruiting class in 2016.
They also lost two very close games to OU in that same 2019 year, regular season and the big 12 Champ in OT. OU’s classes were #16 and #8.
Let’s pump the brakes on down playing Matt Rhules ability to judge talent and coach.
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He's also never beat a ranked opponent...likely largely due to the talent gap. That said, my hope (strong belief) is that he was never at a place long enough to be able to turn his on field success into bridging that talent gap in recruiting.
I don't believe Franklin did at Vandy either, but he obviously has at PSU
True and Rhule did beat a couple teams that ended up in the Top 25, they just weren’t ranked when Baylor played them. In 2019 they lost to a Top 10 OU team by 3 twice and lost to #5 Georgia in the Sugar Bowl by 12. The only ranked teams he played that year were ranked 6, 10, and 5. That Baylor team was good.
Oh no. What are we gonna do. Lighten up Francis.
You do recognize that other teams have players who may get bumps, correct?Not to burst your bubble but Nebraska currently has a number of players (DK, McMorris, et al) who are going to bumped up to four stars in the near future. Oh, and 4 star EDGE Anderson just got a Fongbomb to NU. Keep playin' and welcome to the board.
Bound to happen, but while you mentioned burst bubbles for NU you failed to note that burst bubbles can happen to teams above NU as well.
I tend to get suspicious when a relatively new poster swoops in on a day when NU gets fantastic news to warn about burst bubbles.
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You are acting like our class is going to stay where it is with no forward progress or additions...this is a weird hill to plant a flag on in June
All teams will have movement
Shoot MN spent ALOT of time in the Top 10 last year and tumbled
It is what it is
Not to burst your bubble. But you just described 90% of CFB teams. You essentially said nothing of substance in your post. Let's see. This is a Husker Board. And recruiting is being discussed. Hmmm another point. This program has been futile for a decade. And Rhule is attempting to establish a foundation. Oh and one more thing. It's JUNE.... You want to troll and post more nonsense. Come back in November when the recruiting picture is a little more clear.
Poor attempt fella
Sheesh another iowa troll. Shouldn’t you be busy prepping for your klan party this weekend.
Plenty to be optimistic about and plenty to wonder about...I choose optimistic....
And they might have some who get dropped after a weak senior year. We’re talking about analysts who have never coached a game or developed a player. Pffftttt
I know some of you won’t want to hear it but this class looks a lot like Iowa’s recruiting. Early commits from solid three star local athletes. A high rating early on, but once the perennial powers start filling out their classes, that rating will drop.
It’s not a bad formula. It’s different for Nebraska. You aren’t going to have high ceiling guys but you will probably get guys who are willing to buy into the system as long as Rhule can develop them. I think it’s a really good thing.
Really, the only concern I see, is Rhule is really making speed the main factor on a lot of these recruits, which probably worked well in the B12, but I’m not sure that’s going to work quite as well in the B10 where most teams are large and will have really solid line play and pro style game plans.
It’s not a bad formula. It’s different for Nebraska. You aren’t going to have high ceiling guys but you will probably get guys who are willing to buy into the system as long as Rhule can develop them. I think it’s a really good thing.
Really, the only concern I see, is Rhule is really making speed the main factor on a lot of these recruits, which probably worked well in the B12, but I’m not sure that’s going to work quite as well in the B10 where most teams are large and will have really solid line play and pro style game plans.
Of course you have a concern about Nebraska recruiting players with speed. You’re an Iowa fan.
Iowa State mostly, but yeah. ISU started recruiting faster players less regionally and they started doing well in conference but still had trouble with Iowa. The only time ISU seems to get Iowa is when ISU has an above average line. Spectacular position players make a team great in the B12 but line play is what seems to win in the B10.
My bad for sharing an opinion.
Every word of my response to you is now more valid than before.
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