We led the country in turnovers. We've been the worst turnover team for years. How someone could worry about freshman mistakes by a 5 star qb that literally the entire country wanted is beyond me. What's the downside? He throws picks while learning to be a stud qb? As opposed to Sims, or Purdy, or Haarberg?We need a qb or none of it works. Raiola has the talent, I worry about the game experience and him being able to read a defense and not get baited. We’ll see
This take is so played out here and the Iowa board. The same people who say this are the same people saying we need studs to compete and be what we want to be. Then they downplay it when we get studs.It's all nice on paper , so let's enjoy it while reality isn't awake.
You’re missing context. My post was in response to someone saying we’re a 10 win team and possible playoff contender. Will we be better this year? Almost certainly. But getting to 10 wins and a playoff with a harder schedule will require good to great qb play…hence the worryWe led the country in turnovers. We've been the worst turnover team for years. How someone could worry about freshman mistakes by a 5 star qb that literally the entire country wanted is beyond me. What's the downside? He throws picks while learning to be a stud qb? As opposed to Sims, or Purdy, or Haarberg?
You never know, maybe he just doesn’t want to be a HC anymore and in his heart he was enjoying football the most when just focused on offensive scheme and design.The problem I see is that he's over qualified to be a qb coach. Guys like that want to be HC even if at North Texas. So he's likely a rental. Which makes me think he's coming as an analyst.
This take is so played out here and the Iowa board. The same people who say this are the same people saying we need studs to compete and be what we want to be. Then they downplay it when we get studs.
I get it, we’ve been garbage for a long time - but ultimately it lands on coaching. Rhule is addressing real needs in the offseason. QB1 in the entire country, bigger strong wr receivers, additional RB and now likely a strong coaching addition to assist the offense.
Yes it needs to translate, yes we’ve had good offseasons but in reality this Rhule’s first and there are lot of players and coaches alike that are excited to be a part of what this coach is doing. Obviously there are things happening behind the scenes that players and their advisors can plainly see that this thing is turning around.
My guess is this is just something temporary to allow him to reset and wait for a HC offer he wants. Just a guess though.You never know, maybe he just doesn’t want to be a HC anymore and in his heart he was enjoying football the most when just focused on offensive scheme and design.
I get it, but when was the last time Nebraska brought in a top 5 player, the top QB in the nation, the best OLine haul in the internet era, etc.?I simply don't buy into any kind of hype, it's proven unhealthy for Nebraska fans. It's spectacularly stupid at this point but go ahead if it makes you feel good super fan.
For me, this staff 100 percent feels different. It feels like we have competent adults in charge. But the problem is that the fanbase is the same. Will we give him time to build if on field results lag a year or two behind the off field results? Going into year two with likely a true freshman qb being the front runner for the starting spot feels like a recipe for more growing pains…which I’m fine with but will the fanbase as a whole be?I get it, but when was the last time Nebraska brought in a top 5 player, the top QB in the nation, the best OLine haul in the internet era, etc.?
This doesn’t feel even a little bit different from other years for you? Next fall may be more of the same, I get it, but part of the joy of being a fan happens even when the games aren’t being played, and again, this feels different than previous years. But if you want to be a stick in the mud if it makes you feel good, go ahead bandwagon.
I think the seasoned all conference vet is already at a point higher than Neyor can reach. So no, I didn’t miss your point.I think your misunderstanding my point.
Upside being an upward movement (from point a to point B)…the seasoned all conference Vet is coming in at a high level. So his window to raise his game/ upward movement of his current game is much smaller than a guys who really hasn’t played football in 2 years due to injuries.
Don’t take it as a negative. If Banks plays the same sort of ball he has @ Wake Forest, find by me. I’d take that sort of production. In other words, I’m happy if Banks maintains his current game wouldn’t be happy if Neyor did
we need a quarterback coachFor me, this staff 100 percent feels different. It feels like we have competent adults in charge. But the problem is that the fanbase is the same. Will we give him time to build if on field results lag a year or two behind the off field results? Going into year two with likely a true freshman qb being the front runner for the starting spot feels like a recipe for more growing pains…which I’m fine with but will the fanbase as a whole be?
I get it, but when was the last time Nebraska brought in a top 5 player, the top QB in the nation, the best OLine haul in the internet era, etc.?
This doesn’t feel even a little bit different from other years for you? Next fall may be more of the same, I get it, but part of the joy of being a fan happens even when the games aren’t being played, and again, this feels different than previous years. But if you want to be a stick in the mud if it makes you feel good, go ahead bandwagon.
Don't think you have me figured out because I'm not all Rah, rah. I can process what's going on just fine and it doesn't mean I have to join you in jubilation. Talk to me next December. It's hard to believe fans talk shit on Iowa boards or talk of what we're going to do. Results is the only thing that will end the so called debate. Good God enough talk. I hear the same old shit on this board every year , get all pumped up and then all pissed off by November because your expectations are built on hope . I'm all N with Rhule but next year better yield results. Recruiting rankings mean nothing to me at this point as a Husker fan. I'm not a Debbie Downer just a adult that knows talk means nothing. I can see the light and proceed with caution at the same time.I get it, but when was the last time Nebraska brought in a top 5 player, the top QB in the nation, the best OLine haul in the internet era, etc.?
This doesn’t feel even a little bit different from other years for you? Next fall may be more of the same, I get it, but part of the joy of being a fan happens even when the games aren’t being played, and again, this feels different than previous years. But if you want to be a stick in the mud if it makes you feel good, go ahead bandwagon.
Yeah I’m kind of over worrying about it too much. He’ll make mistakes but surely no more than we saw this last year. Hopefully he gets us to 6-7 Ws.We led the country in turnovers. We've been the worst turnover team for years. How someone could worry about freshman mistakes by a 5 star qb that literally the entire country wanted is beyond me. What's the downside? He throws picks while learning to be a stud qb? As opposed to Sims, or Purdy, or Haarberg?
It may help but most teams have a qb coach and yet most true freshmen struggle. Nothing makes up for lack of game experience.we need a quarterback coach
preferably one who's held that post before
even more preferably one who's held that post before and has had success doing so
my comment has nothing to do with DR, who has already undoubtedly been more well coached than every quarterback we've started for the past 6 yearsIt may help but most teams have a qb coach and yet most true freshmen struggle. Nothing makes up for lack of game experience.
I think I’ve got a pretty good read on you, thanks.Don't think you have me figured out because I'm not all Rah, rah. I can process what's going on just fine and it doesn't mean I have to join you in jubilation. Talk to me next December. It's hard to believe fans talk shit on Iowa boards or talk of what we're going to do. Results is the only thing that will end the so called debate. Good God enough talk. I hear the same old shit on this board every year , get all pumped up and then all pissed off by November because your expectations are built on hope . I'm all N with Rhule but next year better yield results. Recruiting rankings mean nothing to me at this point as a Husker fan. I'm not a Debbie Downer just an adult that knows talk means nothing. I can see the light and proceed with caution at the same time.
Then elaborate as to what you meant because discussing the results of our season will hinge on the play of DR seems to be directly related to your follow up.my comment has nothing to do with DR, who has already undoubtedly been more well coached than every quarterback we've started for the past 6 years
The unsatisfied hopes and dreams of a blueblood program. 🤣Hopefully he gets us to 6-7 Ws.
When people say 6-7 wins - they are referring to a building block. Not the end goal. I know you know this, which is why your comments are confusing.The unsatisfied hopes and dreams of a blueblood program. 🤣
DR will have growing pains. obviously. it's good that next year's record doesn't matter one bit.Then elaborate as to what you meant because discussing the results of our season will hinge on the play of DR seems to be directly related to your follow up.
yes. because we did not employ a QB coach to focus on QB fundamentals/mechanics last year. our guys got as close to zero of that kind of coaching as anyone in the country.Also…you think DR got better qb coaching at 3 separate high schools compared to what Nebraska had last year? Lol.
Been quiet. Think he'll be N.Any feels on Banks?
No I don't know this. Deboer took over a losing program and has gotten his team into the national championship game in year 2. Winners win. Losers make excuses.When people say 6-7 wins - they are referring to a building block. Not the end goal. I know you know this, which is why your comments are confusing.
Wasn't there a coach that took an 0-12 team to undefeated in 2 years? We should look his way...No I don't know this. Deboer took over a losing program and has gotten his team into the national championship game in year 2. Winners win. Losers make excuses.
Why do you hate Nebraska so much?Don't think you have me figured out because I'm not all Rah, rah. I can process what's going on just fine and it doesn't mean I have to join you in jubilation. Talk to me next December. It's hard to believe fans talk shit on Iowa boards or talk of what we're going to do. Results is the only thing that will end the so called debate. Good God enough talk. I hear the same old shit on this board every year , get all pumped up and then all pissed off by November because your expectations are built on hope . I'm all N with Rhule but next year better yield results. Recruiting rankings mean nothing to me at this point as a Husker fan. I'm not a Debbie Downer just a adult that knows talk means nothing. I can see the light and proceed with caution at the same time.
Are you familiar with bell curves?No I don't know this. Deboer took over a losing program and has gotten his team into the national championship game in year 2. Winners win. Losers make excuses.
You mean the gaussian probability distribution and where this outcome falls as the number of standard deviations away from the mean?Are you familiar with bell curves?
Where do you think this outcome rates on a bell curve over the last 5, 10, 15, or 20 years?
No I don't know this. Deboer took over a losing program and has gotten his team into the national championship game in year 2. Winners win. Losers make excuses.
Sure he inherited a 4-8 team, that was 43-15 in the five seasons prior to that one season. Context matters dumbshit.
A+ job defining it. So where does it rank?You mean the gaussian probability distribution and where this outcome falls as the number of standard deviations away from the mean?
Why do you hate Nebraska so much?
Truth is NU doesn’t have much of a portal in class, as the recruiting class was large and retention was high. So that 54 ranking is meaningless. One also doesn’t have to dig very deep to see the cases of the two players you mentioned. If Dowdell was coming out of HS this year and had signed, we’d be happy we were getting the #6 RB recruit. The other kid had great productivity at Wyoming before he ganked his knee. I’m thinking Neyor’s is an NIL only deal.Being rational, mature, tempering expectations, waiting for results before getting too excited so as not to be fooled by “winning the offseason” again, objectivity is “hating Nebraska”?
Neyor is the 317th ranked player in the portal and Texas’ 6th string WR. Dowdell is the 121st ranked player in the portal and Oregon’s 4th string RB. We have the 54th ranked portal class right now. Yet we’ve got people on here dropping “boom” and “huge” and talking playoffs.
Seems to me the only people who are halfway logical in this thread are the ones who aren’t getting too overly excited yet…or, I guess “hating Nebraska” in your world.
(cue childish unrelated Deion response from you in 5, 4, 3, 2…)
Truth is NU doesn’t have much of a portal in class, as the recruiting class was large and retention was high. So that 54 ranking is meaningless. One also doesn’t have to dig very deep to see the cases of the two players you mentioned. If Dowdell was coming out of HS this year and had signed, we’d be happy we were getting the #6 RB recruit. The other kid had great productivity at Wyoming before he ganked his knee. I’m thinking Neyor’s is an NIL only deal.
So NU is going to get a few kids that will make the team better. Playoffs? Likely not. But the roster is better than it was a month ago.
Don't think you have me figured out because I'm not all Rah, rah. I can process what's going on just fine and it doesn't mean I have to join you in jubilation. Talk to me next December. It's hard to believe fans talk shit on Iowa boards or talk of what we're going to do. Results is the only thing that will end the so called debate. Good God enough talk. I hear the same old shit on this board every year , get all pumped up and then all pissed off by November because your expectations are built on hope . I'm all N with Rhule but next year better yield results. Recruiting rankings mean nothing to me at this point as a Husker fan. I'm not a Debbie Downer just a adult that knows talk means nothing. I can see the light and proceed with caution at the same time.
Those statements sound like something from the loony left.Then why come here if it's so bad? Stay away until the results your looking for exist and then join in. No need to stomp on everyone else's feeling of an upward swing ?
Thanks for being the joy police here. We don’t ever want to get too high on the squad. This place is better when it’s all doom and gloom.Those statements sound like something from the loony left.
Here we go again, if I bring facts to light it's doom and gloom .....ruining joy ? Let me crush you.....there is no Santa.Thanks for being the joy police here. We don’t ever want to get too high on the squad. This place is better when it’s all doom and gloom.
FactsHere we go again, if I bring facts to light it's doom and gloom .....ruining joy ? Let me crush you.....there is no Santa.