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Scott Frost’s recruiting

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Top 20 program located in the State of Florida. Surely must be knocking recruiting out of the park, right? Sure. They have 16 commits and are ranked 69th Nationally and 7th in the powerful AAC conference. Scott Frost and his coaching staff have proven in a year and a half in the powerful AAC that he should be coaching at least Florida or Nebraska, right? Recruiting is overrated anyway.
 
How is his team doing on the field? I think its fair to say stars dont mean as much as the recruiting sites want ppl to think. Great classes would be nice but without development they mean nothing.
 
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What has Wisconsin's average recruiting ranking been? Somewhere @50. Where has Nebraska's been? 25ish. What was NIU? Point is Recruiting ranking is for the clap-trap.
 
Top 20 program located in the State of Florida. Surely must be knocking recruiting out of the park, right? Sure. They have 16 commits and are ranked 69th Nationally and 7th in the powerful AAC conference. Scott Frost and his coaching staff have proven in a year and a half in the powerful AAC that he should be coaching at least Florida or Nebraska, right? Recruiting is overrated anyway.
IMO they will end up with the best recruiting class in the conference again this coming February.
 
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How is his team doing on the field? I think its fair to say stars dont mean as much as the recruiting sites want ppl to think. Great classes would be nice but without development they mean nothing.

Right. That is why all of the top programs are chasing the top rated talent year in and year out.
 
Top 20 program located in the State of Florida. Surely must be knocking recruiting out of the park, right? Sure. They have 16 commits and are ranked 69th Nationally and 7th in the powerful AAC conference. Scott Frost and his coaching staff have proven in a year and a half in the powerful AAC that he should be coaching at least Florida or Nebraska, right? Recruiting is overrated anyway.
Considering two years ago you stated Frost was on the verge of being fired your record pertaining to him is impeccable.
 
He's had 2 and 3 stars that are playing like 3 and 4 stars. Either a superior eye for talent, or superior development, or superior planning, or some combination of those.
 
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I just want to make sure I get the narrative right. First, all of those looking for a reason to not hire Frost said that he was only succeeding at UCF now because there was plenty of talent already there. Those recruiting classes were ranked 68th, 63rd, 57th, and now currently sit at 53rd.

So by those numbers, he could not have possiby coached that team up, could he? After all, he coaches in the AAC and that was an 0-12 team loaded with talent.

And wait a minute....don't they currently sit at 53rd...ten spots ahead of the recruiting class right before SF arrived there? How could that be possible?

Finally, I thought that we weren't supposed to judge our class rank at NU until signing day. Do we just judge Frost's at UCF by whatever fits our agenda at the time? Asking for friend.

Edit- by the way, you say their recruiting rankings currently sit at 69....what site are you using and what were there last three previous classes ranked by that same service...especially those two that were before SF arrived at UCF?
 
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Classes on campus that Frost had a hand in recruiting
UCF 2016 class - 2 4*, 8 3*
UCF 2017 class - 1 4*, 14 3*
That is enough talent to compete with most FBS programs, certainly in the the AAC.
 
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Guys...why are you not getting it? The 0-12 season BEFORE Scott got to UCF was really more like 12-0 there were just some bad breaks. his 6-7 season was actually him bringing the program down a bit and sure they are 6-0 right now...BUT is it a real 6-0...I mean...have they beaten anyone?

Also...Riley is really more like 7-0 right now, if you really look at it.
 
????? Wow, just wow guys...

Why would someone go to UCF right now?

It's all over in the media that Frost is going to get lured away by a big school, so why would you commit to play for him at UCF?

Everyone knows that Frost has been busy at IMG, working on convincing Bookie to stay committed to Nebraska! He doesn't have time to recruit to both schools guys... SMH
 
????? Wow, just wow guys...

Why would someone go to UCF right now?

It's all over in the media that Frost is going to get lured away by a big school, so why would you commit to play for him at UCF?

Everyone knows that Frost has been busy at IMG, working on convincing Bookie to stay committed to Nebraska! He doesn't have time to recruit to both schools guys... SMH

This is a huge point. I'm not sure where the OP got his numbers but right now another site has them ranked higher and he is 2nd in the non-power five. He also has the highest player average of any non-power 5 team. What he also has is the smallest class which we all know affects the rankings. It will stay a small class until he commits to staying there. Just as MR will struggle to get any new recruits and hold on to the ones now.....Scott Frost is going through the same thing for opposite reasons.

On a side not I suspect there are some players that are committed to him and would love nothing better than to play for him in much better facilities in a power 5. I absolutely think he would bring some of them to Nebraska.

I think if Scott Frost ends up here.....and it can be announced in early December.....we can still make top 25. If Riley stays 1 more year it will struggle to break top 40 because the recruits will see him as a lame duck coach for 1 year.
 
This is a huge point. I'm not sure where the OP got his numbers but right now another site has them ranked higher and he is 2nd in the non-power five. He also has the highest player average of any non-power 5 team. What he also has is the smallest class which we all know affects the rankings. It will stay a small class until he commits to staying there. Just as MR will struggle to get any new recruits and hold on to the ones now.....Scott Frost is going through the same thing for opposite reasons.

On a side not I suspect there are some players that are committed to him and would love nothing better than to play for him in much better facilities in a power 5. I absolutely think he would bring some of them to Nebraska.

I think if Scott Frost ends up here.....and it can be announced in early December.....we can still make top 25. If Riley stays 1 more year it will struggle to break top 40 because the recruits will see him as a lame duck coach for 1 year.
With that December signing period it will be tough. He will have to assemble a staff and recruit his butt off fast.
 
I just want to make sure I get the narrative right. First, all of those looking for a reason to not hire Frost said that he was only succeeding at UCF now because there was plenty of talent already there. Those recruiting classes were ranked 68th, 63rd, 57th, and now currently sit at 53rd.

So by those numbers, he could not have possiby coached that team up, could he? After all, he coaches in the AAC and that was an 0-12 team loaded with talent.

And wait a minute....don't they currently sit at 53rd...ten spots ahead of the recruiting class right before SF arrived there? How could that be possible?

Finally, I thought that we weren't supposed to judge our class rank at NU until signing day. Do we just judge Frost's at UCF by whatever fits our agenda at the time? Asking for friend.

Edit- by the way, you say their recruiting rankings currently sit at 69....what site are you using and what were there last three previous classes ranked by that same service...especially those two that were before SF arrived at UCF?
90, 73, 73, 63, 57, 53 - UCF recruiting class rankings going back to 2012 - RIVALS.
 
90, 73, 73, 63, 57, 53 - UCF recruiting class rankings going back to 2012 - RIVALS.

That can't be. Scott Frost is not that good of a coach. The talent was already there....even when they were 0-12. Are you trying to tell me that the two recruiting class rankings before he arrived on campus were 73rd and 63rd in the country, respectively?

Oh well, back to the lab again. I need to cook up a new narritive against Frost and a batch of excuses for Riley.
 
That can't be. Scott Frost is not that good of a coach. The talent was already there....even when they were 0-12. Are you trying to tell me that the two recruiting class rankings before he arrived on campus were 73rd and 63rd in the country, respectively?

Oh well, back to the lab again. I need to cook up a new narritive against Frost and a batch of excuses for Riley.

How do those numbers compare to the rest of the AAC?
 
Guys...why are you not getting it? The 0-12 season BEFORE Scott got to UCF was really more like 12-0 there were just some bad breaks. his 6-7 season was actually him bringing the program down a bit and sure they are 6-0 right now...BUT is it a real 6-0...I mean...have they beaten anyone?

Also...Riley is really more like 7-0 right now, if you really look at it.
Not defending Riley, but please use common sense and listen to other people. You are putting your thoughts as theirs (and mine)! Sorry, I am not die hard about getting Frost here like you, and some others. On the other hand losing to NIU is not acceptable at Nebraska EVER. I get it we all do, but your logic is way off base!

I definitely see Scott Frost as a great up an coming coach! I do NOT think he would be in over his head here, and I think he has a lot of potential. He would understand Nebraska and what we need here. These are all positives, and I am not down playing it. I just don't zero in on him and him alone!

So UCF's big wins are Navy, Memphis and Maryland... If UCF played our schedule they would be at best 5-2... more than likely 4-3. I'm "AGAIN" not defending Riley, but Nebraska would most likely be 5-1 or 6-0 with UCF's schedule (SEE our 7-0 start last year!)
 
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Not defending Riley, but please use common sense and listen to other people. You are putting your thoughts as theirs (Or mine)! Sorry, I am not die hard about getting Frost here like you and some others. On the other hand losing to NIU is not acceptable at Nebraska EVER. I get it we all do, but your logic is way off base!

I definitely see Scott Frost as a great up an coming coach! I do NOT think he would be in over his head here, and I think he has a lot of potential. He would understand Nebraska and what we need here. These are all positives, and I am not down playing it. I just don't zero in on him and him alone!

So UCF's big wins are Navy, Memphis and Maryland... If UCF played our schedule they would be at best 5-2... more than likely 4-3. I'm "AGAIN" not defending Riley, but Nebraska would most likely be 5-1 or 6-0 with UCF's schedule (SEE our 7-0 start last year!)

The point is, he would be 5-2 or 4-3 with his class recruiting rankings over the last three years averaging in the mid 60's. We were sold a bill of goods that Riley could do more with less. Now some want to find every reason why Frost is not ready for this job, when in fact he is more ready than Riley was.

Hire Frost, don't hire Frost....whatever. Not a huge deal to me. I definitely lean towards hiring Frost, but one thing is for certain in my mind....Riley has got to go.
 
UCF has NEVER been 6-0 until now.
Fun fact of the day
UCF usually plays a good P5 team (2 total P5 teams) their first 4-5 games to keep them from going 6-0. This year they didn't play GT so that definitely didn't hurt their cause to be at 6-0 right now.

2017: GT (cancelled), Maryland (UCF won)
2016: Michigan, Maryland
2015: Stanford, South Carolina
2014: Penn St, Missouri
2013: Penn St (UCF won), South Carolina
2012: Ohio St, Missouri
 
The point is, he would be 5-2 or 4-3 with his class recruiting rankings over the last three years averaging in the mid 60's. We were sold a bill of goods that Riley could do more with less. Now some want to find every reason why Frost is not ready for this job, when in fact he is more ready than Riley was.

Hire Frost, don't hire Frost....whatever. Not a huge deal to me. I definitely lean towards hiring Frost, but one thing is for certain in my mind....Riley has got to go.
Why you responding to my post with this crap! Once again people only read what they want! I put this paragraph in my post and it obviously went overlooked!

"I definitely see Scott Frost as a great up an coming coach! I do NOT think he would be in over his head here, and I think he has a lot of potential. He would understand Nebraska and what we need here. These are all positives, and I am not down playing it. I just don't zero in on him and him alone!"
 
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You have to look at offer lists more than the stars which has a bias

Gabe Davis for example in last year's class had an offer from Jimbo Fisher and FSU. If he flips from UCF I bet they bump him to a 4th star.

Going just off rivals rating system is lazy and probably why your Program is in the state it's in.

And Miami 2 stars are Nebraska 5 Stars
 
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You have to look at offer list more than the stars which has a bias

Gabe Davis for example in last year's class had an offer from Jimbo Fisher and FSU. If he flips from UCF I bet they bump him to a 4th star.

Going just off rivals rating system is lazy and probably why your Program is in the state it's in.

And Miami 2 stars are Nebraska 5 Stars
Ya think? Stay on your UCF board please
 
Why you responding to my post with this crap! Once again people only read what they want! I put this paragraph in my post and it obviously went overlooked!

"I definitely see Scott Frost as a great up an coming coach! I do NOT think he would be in over his head here, and I think he has a lot of potential. He would understand Nebraska and what we need here. These are all positives, and I am not down playing it. I just don't zero in on him and him alone!"

That part of the post was not directed at you. I fully understood what you were saying. Some others on this board are looking for reasons why SF couldn't get it done here.
 
You have to look at offer lists more than the stars which has a bias

Gabe Davis for example in last year's class had an offer from Jimbo Fisher and FSU. If he flips from UCF I bet they bump him to a 4th star.

Going just off rivals rating system is lazy and probably why your Program is in the state it's in.

And Miami 2 stars are Nebraska 5 Stars

Our program is in "the state it is in" because the fans on a rivals message board use rivals recruiting rankings to evaluate recruiting classes? That makes sense. Thanks for stopping by, again
 
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But... you quoted my post with this response

I was pointing out the fact that yes, I agree with you, UCF would not be unbeaten right now with our schedule.....but Ark St, Oregon, and NIU aren't exactly stiff competition, though. So Riley sure as hell isn't getting it done.....some on this forum....NOT YOU....are still arguing that we are better off with a 65 year old career .500 coach than taking a shot with SF or another coach....that is all.

Re-read my post. You will see the comparison I was making.
 
Not defending Riley, but please use common sense and listen to other people. You are putting your thoughts as theirs (and mine)! Sorry, I am not die hard about getting Frost here like you, and some others. On the other hand losing to NIU is not acceptable at Nebraska EVER. I get it we all do, but your logic is way off base!

I definitely see Scott Frost as a great up an coming coach! I do NOT think he would be in over his head here, and I think he has a lot of potential. He would understand Nebraska and what we need here. These are all positives, and I am not down playing it. I just don't zero in on him and him alone!

So UCF's big wins are Navy, Memphis and Maryland... If UCF played our schedule they would be at best 5-2... more than likely 4-3. I'm "AGAIN" not defending Riley, but Nebraska would most likely be 5-1 or 6-0 with UCF's schedule (SEE our 7-0 start last year!)

I was kidding...I don't care who they hire. My post wasn't meant as some sweet logical post it was meant as a joke.
 
With that December signing period it will be tough. He will have to assemble a staff and recruit his butt off fast.
Yea I agree that December signing period is most likely absent. There will be a few that might if they know it is Frost. Mostly our instate and local boys. He will need to nail it in February
 
Yea I agree that December signing period is most likely absent. There will be a few that might if they know it is Frost. Mostly our instate and local boys. He will need to nail it in February
Unfortunately for us, I think Bookie, Moore and Williams are all December guys.
 
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