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Love his mechanics and his pocket presence. Obviously they're not gonna put sacks or bad plays on his hudl film, so it's hard to say how consistent he is with that, but plenty of plays in there where he extends the play or takes off for a nice gain.
Really steps through his throws. I don't see him throwing off his back foot in any of these clips really. Not a ton of velocity on the ball, but good accuracy. Gotta figure more strength and time on the weights will raise his ball speed some. If I have to choose between a guy who throws hard or a guy who is accurate, give me accurate every time. There may be something in his motion that can give him more pop on the longer throws.
Does a nice job getting his hips around when he's rolling left.
Not a true dual threat per se where you're gonna feature him in the run game, but has the straight line speed to make you pay if you turn your back and play man, or to turn a broken pocket into a first down, a la Cutler or Rogers. Little bit of wiggle to him. Strikes me as somebody who will get described as "deceptive" when people talk about his running ability.
Hangs the ball out there like the proverbial loaf of bread when he runs. Needs to tuck that away. He's so much bigger than HS kids that he gets away with it, but college players will rip at that ball.
Very upright runner. Needs to drop that down so he doesn't get those ribs cracked.
Kid is cool as the other side of the pillow. Lots of plays where he makes it into something by not getting rattled. There's just this general vibe about him like he's just not concerned out there, like he knows he's gonna dominate.
Love his mechanics and his pocket presence. Obviously they're not gonna put sacks or bad plays on his hudl film, so it's hard to say how consistent he is with that, but plenty of plays in there where he extends the play or takes off for a nice gain.
+1Not on film; however, you can look at his overall numbers to see he is an exceptionally talented QB - completion percentage, TD/INT ratio, etc.
His film documents that he can make a very large variety of throws. He is going to be fun to watch.
Agree. No way to fake that % and TD/INT on that volume of throws. Excited to get an accurate thrower.Not on film; however, you can look at his overall numbers to see he is an exceptionally talented QB - completion percentage, TD/INT ratio, etc.
His film documents that he can make a very large variety of throws. He is going to be fun to watch.
Agree. No way to fake that % and TD/INT on that volume of throws. Excited to get an accurate thrower.
You can do a lot more with an accurate passer who can run than you can with a dynamic runner who you're trying to coach up into being capable of 60-65%. Would like an offense that is going to still be run heavy with the RB and see what a kid like this can do with around 25-30 attempts per game working off a credible run threat.
Agreed. The other teams in Memorial Stadium don't seem to have a problem passing the ball. That tells me it's not the weather, it's the players, specifically the QB.it seems so many fans around here brainwashed against the pass mostly because we haven't had pure passing types of QBs throwing it here. I'm telling you, the whole bad weather stuff and it doesn't work in the Midwest is garbage. Look at Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben in Pitt, Brady in NE in bad weather games....you just need really good pass QBs.
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Kids' probly not going to be Joe Montana right out the gate but I like his potential. Some time ago, someone posted some video of him struggling with his mechanics (back foot throws) and stuff, can't remember when though. He's certainly a good starting point for Langs to work with.
Great points. You are right about the db's, its generally much harder to be reactive on that type of surface as you transition into your coverage. It can also be hard for o-linemen to get the drive needed to push the D off the ball. And also with your theme of living real time; defenses will often stack against the run in weather, so you can do better against what they are giving you - its tough not too give up some separation on a good receivers first move in a poor footing environment. GBRYep, I don't know if it has to be heavy run presence but just like we saw vs. Mich State and Minnesota..we are best when both are working and I'd like to see us avg more like 25-35 passes depending how game is going still typically allows for 35-40 runs.
it seems so many fans around here brainwashed against the pass mostly because we haven't had pure passing types of QBs throwing it here. I'm telling you, the whole bad weather stuff and it doesn't work in the Midwest is garbage. Look at Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben in Pitt, Brady in NE in bad weather games....you just need really good pass QBs.
There is always an argument that you actually want to throw more in bad weather than good sometimes, because it's often the DBs that slip and have to guess where WR knows he's going.
I hear ya… What gives me hope is the improvement I've seen in Tommy under these new coaches. It seems as if these new coaches can develop quarterback play better than any of the coaches who coached the players you just mentioned. I know some of them were under Callahan, but I'm just not convinced that Jay Norvell or Shawn Watson were the guys to develop our quarterbacks. This is my hope at least...After Harrison Beck, Sam Keller, Brion Carnes, Johnny Stanton, Cody Green, Kody Spano. Curt Dukes, etc. I'm not going to hype up any Nebraska QB recruit before he sets foot on campus. Most of our saviors haven't panned out.
At the risk of sounding negative, my main concern is that he just doesn't look like an athlete on film. It's difficult to put a finger on it. I thought he looked slow, but then realized he's just a big guy. Then I wondered if he was just a 'man among boys' type of thing, which to me, is also a big worry. It's easy to look good when you are playing against your younger brothers friends type thing.. Arm strength as you mention and wide open guys etc.Nikki, just curious what you don't like? I've got a little bit of agreement, but feel the same way as the completion percentage is awesome so lets hope it pans out. I don't see a monster arm on this kid by any means. I think he has a good arm, but nothing really blew me away by it. He's young still and will learn, but I didn't find his footwork all that impressive yet, and as stated he is throwing to a lot of wide open guys. Hopefully we can develop him and turn him in to a big time QB.
His team was steamrolled in a couple recent games. I wonder if anyone saw either of those games and could comment on how he looked when the competition was better and receivers weren't running free.At the risk of sounding negative, my main concern is that he just doesn't look like an athlete on film. It's difficult to put a finger on it. I thought he looked slow, but then realized he's just a big guy. Then I wondered if he was just a 'man among boys' type of thing, which to me, is also a big worry. It's easy to look good when you are playing against your younger brothers friends type thing.. Arm strength as you mention and wide open guys etc.
Still, to me the high completion percentage is indicative of good decision making & accuracy. He likely also throws a nice catchable ball. Surely at the next level, he will be required to thread the needle more, put more zip on the ball when required and everything will move much faster, as well as more complex defensive schemes to read, but given accuracy and decision making, those are very high up on the list of things you would want in a pro style QB and for coach Riley's system.
Some of these posts are honestly silly. POB is the most developed QB that throws the football to EVER come to Nebraska. He will continue to grow as a player but he is at a very high level right now for a HS quarterback. Alignments, progressions, using the whole field, variety of throws in his arsenal, etc. the list goes on. People shouldn't be concerned. They should be ecstatic.
Name the team that has won the national title that has been a primary passing team since since 1996.
That's why we want to run the ball. But be able to pass if necessary. I don't care how good the QB can throw it.
what?Name the team that has won the national title that has been a primary passing team since since 1996.
That's why we want to run the ball. But be able to pass if necessary. I don't care how good the QB can throw it.
Bump for an answer.Name the team that has won the national title that has been a primary passing team since since 1996.
That's why we want to run the ball. But be able to pass if necessary. I don't care how good the QB can throw it.
45 throws in a game is not balance.Quit with the stupid aruments. Riley likes his offense to have balance....
45 throws in a game is not balance.
Name the team that has won the national title that has been a primary passing team since since 1996.
That's why we want to run the ball. But be able to pass if necessary. I don't care how good the QB can throw it.
I think people are fired up, but you honestly have no idea how he is going to do at the next level. There are plenty of studs even up to the 5 star rating that don't pan out. I'm ecstatic to have the kid, but it's alright not to anoint him the second coming of Jesus before he is even on campus.
I understand your fear...At the risk of sounding negative, my main concern is that he just doesn't look like an athlete on film. It's difficult to put a finger on it. I thought he looked slow, but then realized he's just a big guy. Then I wondered if he was just a 'man among boys' type of thing, which to me, is also a big worry. It's easy to look good when you are playing against your younger brothers friends type thing.. Arm strength as you mention and wide open guys etc.
Still, to me the high completion percentage is indicative of good decision making & accuracy. He likely also throws a nice catchable ball. Surely at the next level, he will be required to thread the needle more, put more zip on the ball when required and everything will move much faster, as well as more complex defensive schemes to read, but given accuracy and decision making, those are very high up on the list of things you would want in a pro style QB and for coach Riley's system.
What does the opponent's number of pass attempts have to do with NU's offensive identity?But if our opponent throws the ball 45 times against our secondary.... then this is balanced, yes? This is good?
45 throws in a game is not balance.
I don't want it "balanced" either. I want it run-heavy.On the season I saw a stat where we are 2 plays difference between run and pass. I'd say that's pretty balanced. You can pick and choose games where there are more passes, but on the season we are balanced.
I know you are not a fan of cherrypicking, as I've seen in other posts you've posted. So why are you doing it here?
Edit: checked the season stats and we have run 358 times, passed 373 times. Not quite 50/50, but pretty darn close. It's 51/49 pass to run ratio. That's balance...