Pat Fitzgerald fired

[king_kong_]

For PSU/Happy Valley in general, there exists a cultish behavior when it comes to the actions of Paterno. So many are unwilling to acknowledge how bad that was and how much JoePa facilitated with non-action.

this true statement appears to apply to the whole of the B1G fanbase

everybody who suffers B1G Stockholm Syndrome just brushes the serial, sociopathic transgressions of many of this league's members aside like so much cottonwood seed blowing in the wind

as evidenced quite clearly in this very thread

 

[wkato]

That's all true, I'm just saying it became a moot point when Mizzu joined.

Look, I'm not even arguing that we should have gone to the SEC, although it would be great. I'm just saying leaving for the B1G when we did was a bad decision. Staying in the Big 12 and/or waiting for something better than the B1G would have been better. That's all I'm saying.

I mean, since all of this is based on hypotheticals, who's to say we couldn't have gone to the SEC with Texas and OU? Or with Mizzouri and aTm? Or instead of one of them?

Hard to say how it might have all played out. But pretty easy to say how it did play out for Nebraska has sucked.

That's all fine and dandy but the reason we left is because Texas and OU plus selected others were flirting with the PAC 12. We hit the BIG 10 for self preservation.

 

[Landomatic]

That's all fine and dandy but the reason we left is because Texas and OU plus selected others were flirting with the PAC 12. We hit the BIG 10 for self preservation.

I know the reason we left. That doesn't change the fact that it was a bad decision.

 

[BleedRed78]

Not a big 10 lover like you like to label people, I just don’t $&it on them every chance I get…

Nebraska administration made the right move 12 years ago to enter this conference..

Kong gonna Kong

 

[king_kong_]

Kong gonna Kong

laughing at posts detailing serial sexual assault:

perfectly normal, perfectly healthy

 

[BleedRed78]

I know you have some kind of mental illness so I'm trying to give you a pass. So let me try and make it clear:

1. NU isn't leaving the Big 10 in the foreseeable future.

2. You and I do not have any control over what conference NU is in. So why constantly complain about it? Every day

3. NU has proven over the years that we are not willing to stoop to an OU level of cheating, let alone an SEC level of cheating in order to compete. We don't create fake jobs for parents. Or give recruits bags of money on recruiting trips.

4. NU doesn't control what other schools do. And TO and Pearlman didn't know NW was going to have a hazing scandal or MSU a sex abuse scandal, etc. Just like TO didn't know Baylor would have all the issues they had. I can't remember his name but I seem to recall Florida basically had a drug dealing hitman at TE. Should TO have factored that in when choosing conferences? Didn't LSU have some kind of rape scandal?

I'll eagerly await your response where you claim I support Big 10 rapists and ask if I have seen any fights with Iowa fans.

Nailed it

 

[Husker.Wed.]

I think it’s difficult for people to grasp what has happened in the big 10 is a everyday thing for the Elitist in this country and world as we live today

Even back in 1969 Mario Puzo characterized Jack Woltz, head of Woltz studios as a pedophile in The Godfather book. It was talked about in the book where Woltz bedded young teens wanting parts and also young daughters of actresses he had under contract. There was one scene in the movie where Tom Hagan sees a young girl on a balcony in Jack Woltz's mansion before their dinner, but the scene never made it into the movie. The point is, many elitists are/were filthy perverts and people have known about them for a long time.

 

[Huskers123456]

laughing at posts detailing serial sexual assault:

perfectly normal, perfectly healthy

He's laughing at you. And how crazy you are.

 

[BleedRed78]

that quote is repulsive. gov't work changed TO for the worse.

joe pa's demise should've been met with a humanity-wide chorus of "burn in hell".

it is my hope that his grave is eternally piss soaked.

Now you're really getting comedic!

Love it. Great entertainment that keeps me coming back to the board every day.

B1G sucks, but it's our home now. No amount of Konging will change that Mr Not-So-Top-Gun. Glad we're in one of the two remaining Power conferences. B12 will indeed be a shadow of it's former self once the last of the blue bloods are gone.

Confrontational with ones own fellow fans makes for what in reality is indeed a bad fan.

I calls them like I sees them.

 

[timnsun]

12 years hasn't been enough proof for you? I'm not saying we can't dig out of it. I actually think Rhule will. But a horrible decision with 12 years of proof in the pudding is enough for me to recognize it for what it was...a horrible decision.

8 of those 12 years were Riley/Frost… you think they would have excelled in the Big 12? Serious question here…

I believe we will be fine under Rhule.

 

[Huskers123456]

I know the reason we left. That doesn't change the fact that it was a bad decision.

Saying it was a bad decision is hindsight based on emotion. It was a long-term decision. 10 years of shitty football on our part doesn't change that. I think people have really forgotten the last few years we were in the Big 12.

 

[king_kong_]

He's laughing at you. And how crazy you are.

you two are simping awfully hard for me these days.

@BleedRed78 takes the time to come to this site, find every single post I make and react to them every single day. guessing it's become a highlight & something he giddily looks forward to.

joke's on me!

 

[king_kong_]

8 of those 12 years were Riley/Frost… you think they would have excelled in the Big 12? Serious question here…

I believe we will be fine under Rhule.

we would've been worse in the Big 12 over the last 8 years.

frost never beat a P5 team outside the B1G in 5 years.

getting to play at least one program outside of the top 100 in FBS every year is a nice perk of playing in the only conference to house 3 such historical bottom feeders.

 

[BleedRed78]

you two are simping awfully hard for me these days.

@BleedRed78 takes the time to come to this site, find every single post I make and react to them every single day. guessing it's become a highlight & something he giddily looks forward to.

joke's on me!

Free entertainment is free entertainment!

I'd never pay for access to forums like this, so this is outstanding delusional based entertainment. Just had to make sure to call you out as a bad fan, because life isn't entirely a joke itself.

 

[king_kong_]

Free entertainment is free entertainment!

I'd never pay for access to forums like this, so this is outstanding delusional based entertainment. Just had to make sure to call you out as a bad fan, because life isn't entirely a joke itself.

"delusional". can you provide some quotes from me to back this accusation up?

my suspicion is you, like others, just don't like the frequency and fervor with which I post true facts about our beloved conference.

 

[BleedRed78]

"delusional". can you provide some quotes from me to back this accusation up?

my suspicion is you, like others, just don't like the frequency and fervor with which I post true facts about our beloved conference.

Others such as Huskers 123456 have pointed out your delusional inability to separate the reality that people like myself can hate the B1G while at the same time being thankful that our team is in one of what will truly most likely be only two superconference. P5 will become P2.

Your confrontational attitude is a disgrace to Husker fandom - even IF you have valid arguments against the conference we are in and will remain in.

Go be a Texass fan or whatever the hell it is you're blabbering on about lol. I'm sure the LongWhores would gladly accept you as one of their own 😉

 

[Landomatic]

8 of those 12 years were Riley/Frost… you think they would have excelled in the Big 12? Serious question here…

I believe we will be fine under Rhule.

Yes, as I've already stated, I think we would not have sucked nearly as badly had we stayed in the Big 12. I think it's much more likely that the common denominator of being in the B1G and all the negative stuff that came with that is to blame than 3 coaches in a row just being bad at their job.

But, I also acknowledge that's somewhat subjective on my part, so I'm willing to set that piece of the argument aside. Even without that, I (and others) have mentioned several other aspects of being in the B1G that have sucked. And I've still yet to see one person list one thing that has been positive about it.

 

[timnsun]

"delusional". can you provide some quotes from me to back this accusation up?

my suspicion is you, like others, just don't like the frequency and fervor with which I post true facts about our beloved conference.

The reality is there has never been a more black or white poster than you. You like the extremes… no shades of gray. So when something like this happens, you rile up husker fans who see our presence in this conference as a good thing when compared to what potentially would have happened had we remained in the Big 12.

We can’t go back and let things play out to see if things would have been better by remaining in the Big 12. The iron was hot and the powers that be said the stability of the B1G was greater than the shifting sands of the Big 12. And I can’t blame them. At the time, the reputation of the B1G was clearly different that it is today. Everything you are railing about happened after we joined the conference. Paterno, Nasser, Michigan, now Northwestern, all happened after we joined the conference.

Rail on the conference all you want now, but that doesn’t make the decision a dozen years ago The wrong decision. And it doesn’t mean husker fans are proud of the conference we are in because we are like minded. That’s something you have contrived and run with ad nauseum.

Much of this post goes for Landomatic as well…

 

[Huskers123456]

"delusional". can you provide some quotes from me to back this accusation up?

my suspicion is you, like others, just don't like the frequency and fervor with which I post true facts about our beloved conference.

Where would a person start? How about saying TO changed? How about the one saying all Big 10 fans should be on a watch list?

Face it. You're a nut job.

 

[timnsun]

Yes, as I've already stated, I think we would not have sucked nearly as badly had we stayed in the Big 12. I think it's much more likely that the common denominator of being in the B1G and all the negative stuff that came with that is to blame than 3 coaches in a row just being bad at their job.

But, I also acknowledge that's somewhat subjective on my part, so I'm willing to set that piece of the argument aside. Even without that, I (and others) have mentioned several other aspects of being in the B1G that have sucked. And I've still yet to see one person list one thing that has been positive about it.

The biggest (and immediate at the time) positive was the stability. I think you are diminishing the reality of 12 years ago when reports of the conference implosion were coming out of several different directions. Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, even Missouri all looking around. At the time, there was no greater stability than the B1G. Would Nebraska have been left out in the dark if they did nothing? Maybe not… but you can’t know this. So a decision was made.

History will tell us if the right decision was made. I don’t consider 12 years enough history when 8 of those years were led by poor coaches.

 

[Huskers123456]

Yes, as I've already stated, I think we would not have sucked nearly as badly had we stayed in the Big 12. I think it's much more likely that the common denominator of being in the B1G and all the negative stuff that came with that is to blame than 3 coaches in a row just being bad at their job.

But, I also acknowledge that's somewhat subjective on my part, so I'm willing to set that piece of the argument aside. Even without that, I (and others) have mentioned several other aspects of being in the B1G that have sucked. And I've still yet to see one person list one thing that has been positive about it.

Big 10 network is fantastic. I can actually watch games. Anywhere. Kind of a perk to be a fan and be able to watch games. Big 12 TV contract sucked.

 

[king_kong_]

At the time, the reputation of the B1G was clearly different that it is today. Everything you are railing about happened after we joined the conference.

this is not entirely accurate.

the B1G's reputation was always as a holier than thou country club league of losers. that part remains today in addition to the rampant diddling (and racism).

Nebraska's decision to join the B1G will be moot in less than two decades when college football unites under a commissioner. it will be viewed in historical context as neither here nor there since major college football will (obviously) include members of every P5 conference plus independents.

 

[scarletred]

The reality is there has never been a more black or white poster than you. You like the extremes… no shades of gray. So when something like this happens, you rile up husker fans who see our presence in this conference as a good thing when compared to what potentially would have happened had we remained in the Big 12.

We can’t go back and let things play out to see if things would have been better by remaining in the Big 12. The iron was hot and the powers that be said the stability of the B1G was greater than the shifting sands of the Big 12. And I can’t blame them. At the time, the reputation of the B1G was clearly different that it is today. Everything you are railing about happened after we joined the conference. Paterno, Nasser, Michigan, now Northwestern, all happened after we joined the conference.

Rail on the conference all you want now, but that doesn’t make the decision a dozen years ago The wrong decision. And it doesn’t mean husker fans are proud of the conference we are in because we are like minded. That’s something you have contrived and run with ad nauseum.

Much of this post goes for Landomatic as well…

Great post, Nailed it..

 

[Landomatic]

The biggest (and immediate at the time) positive was the stability. I think you are diminishing the reality of 12 years ago when reports of the conference implosion were coming out of several different directions. Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, even Missouri all looking around. At the time, there was no greater stability than the B1G. Would Nebraska have been left out in the dark if they did nothing? Maybe not…but you can’t know this. So a decision was made.

History will tell us if the right decision was made. I don’t consider 12 years enough history when 8 of those years were led by poor coaches.

I do know this. Look at the 8 blue bloods. You really think any of us would be left out in the dark? Ever? I certainly don't. I don't think anyone who's being honest with themselves does.

 

[Landomatic]

Saying it was a bad decision is hindsight based on emotion. It was a long-term decision. 10 years of shitty football on our part doesn't change that. I think people have really forgotten the last few years we were in the Big 12.

Except I called it at the time. I knew it was a bad decision then and I've been proven right. So, how is that hindsight?

Anyway, some feel one way, others feel another way. Much like most of these types of discussions, probably nothing will be posted to sway either side the other way.

That said, the B1G sucks and I wish we wouldn't have joined it. Such is life.

 

[timnsun]

I do know this. Look at the 8 blue bloods. You really think any of us would be left out in the dark? Ever? I certainly don't. I don't think anyone who's being honest with themselves does.

I agree with this. But I also feel like there are a lot of husker fans (me included at times) that worry more about what might happen without thinking about the blue blood status and the Cred we already had built up. I agree that we wouldn’t have been left out in the dark. But I still feared the worst case scenario…

 

[king_kong_]

I agree with this. But I also feel like there are a lot of husker fans (me included at times) that worry more about what might happen without thinking about the blue blood status and the Cred we already had built up. I agree that we wouldn’t have been left out in the dark. But I still feared the worst case scenario…

I don't see the decision as right or wrong like so many close-minded, visionless others.

merely a different vehicle on the road to the same eventual destination to which we were alway traveling.

the conference and its members/fans deserve to be mocked endlessly. our affiliation has never had anything to do with it. we are a lone bright spot, in fact, and those honest enough to discuss the greater vision of the league and overall landscape (like the first commissioner & that fat turncoat Barry Alvarez) say as much.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

@king_kong_ trying WAY too hard…again. Hard to believe some people fall for it anymore.

 

[timnsun]

I don't see the decision as right or wrong like so many close-minded, visionless others.

merely a different vehicle on the road to the same eventual destination to which we were alway traveling.

the conference and its members/fans deserve to be mocked endlessly. our affiliation has never had anything to do with it. we are a lone bright spot, in fact, and those honest enough to discuss the greater vision of the league and overall landscape (like the first commissioner & that fat turncoat Barry Alvarez) say as much.

I see it this way today as well, but not when we joined the conference. Maybe it’s just me, but I didn’t have the vision of conferences going away or the NCAA no longer having a stake in major college football.

 

[king_kong_]

I see it this way today as well, but not when we joined the conference. Maybe it’s just me, but I didn’t have the vision of conferences going away or the NCAA no longer having a stake in major college football.

definitely not just you.

 

[Landomatic]

I agree with this. But I also feel like there are a lot of husker fans (me included at times) that worry more about what might happen without thinking about the blue blood status and the Cred we already had built up. I agree that we wouldn’t have been left out in the dark. But I still feared the worst case scenario…

It's because of this that I think we had all the leverage but didn't use it. Tom and Harvey had the trump (no politics) card and pretty much discarded it. We weren't Colorado, aTm or Mizzu. I think TO had such an ax to grind with the Big 12 and Texas that he lost sight of the bigger picture and made an irrational decision. Traded a Texas/OU problem for an Ohio St/Michigan one plus welcomed in on a bunch of other problems with it. Great coach...horrible AD.

 

[RBigredMax]

It's because of this that I think we had all the leverage but didn't use it. Tom and Harvey had the trump (no politics) card and pretty much discarded it. We weren't Colorado, aTm or Mizzu. I think TO had such an ax to grind with the Big 12 and Texas that he lost sight of the bigger picture and made an irrational decision. Traded a Texas/OU problem for an Ohio St/Michigan one plus welcomed in on a bunch of other problems with it. Great coach...horrible AD.

Lando - would your preference to have been to stay in the Big12 or to try and go to PAC or SEC?

 

[mwulf]

 

[huskerfan1414]

I was roasted years ago on this board for saying that Fitz was overrated. NW should have beaten us MORE but they rarely stuck with what was working in their gameplan. Having said that, he was certainly good for NW and I dunno who else they could have gotten. He was good at team building.
I don't know if these allegations are true or not. If they are true, he needs to go. This is not normal "hazing" like stuffing freshmen in trash cans. Dudes pretending to gang butt rape other dudes? What the hell? Who are these people? Never once did it ever cross my mind, "Hey, you know what sounds fun? Let's all act like we're humping a dude and then have people touch our balls when they don't want to lol." What a bunch of sickos.

Big ten sucks. Sucks really bad. It's a lame, perverted, elitist and smug conference that's incredibly overrated. The over-the-top woke liberalism does not align with Nebraska values. The football is ok, I enjoy watching some of the teams, some I don't. It's easy to say now that it was a wrong decision joining. It is, however, revisionist hindsight.
Do I wish we were still in the big 12? Yes. But I get why the decision was made when it was.

I hope BIG adds Kansas.

 

[scarletred]

It's because of this that I think we had all the leverage but didn't use it. Tom and Harvey had the trump (no politics) card and pretty much discarded it. We weren't Colorado, aTm or Mizzu. I think TO had such an ax to grind with the Big 12 and Texas that he lost sight of the bigger picture and made an irrational decision. Traded a Texas/OU problem for an Ohio St/Michigan one plus welcomed in on a bunch of other problems with it. Great coach...horrible AD.

Back in June 11 2010, a reporter ask Jim Delany how long has he had his eye on Nebraska? Delany “ 21 years”

Devaney himself flirted with the idea of getting Nebraska in the Big 10 conference..

 

[V-Doub]

I actually started reading this thread for an update on Pat Fitzgerald.

How’s that working out? 🤣

 

[WHCSC]

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Now that will get the media fired up

 

[Landomatic]

Lando - would your preference to have been to stay in the Big12 or to try and go to PAC or SEC?

I would have to say stayed in the Big 12 for sure. But, that’s probably hindsight being 20/20 on my part if I’m being honest. I’m sure I would have been over the moon excited for the SEC had that happened, but I’m not so sure looking back today that it wouldn’t have been a bad decision. PAC would have been a worse mistake than the B1G, if that’s possible.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

I was roasted years ago on this board for saying that Fitz was overrated. NW should have beaten us MORE but they rarely stuck with what was working in their gameplan. Having said that, he was certainly good for NW and I dunno who else they could have gotten. He was good at team building.
I don't know if these allegations are true or not. If they are true, he needs to go. This is not normal "hazing" like stuffing freshmen in trash cans. Dudes pretending to gang butt rape other dudes? What the hell? Who are these people? Never once did it ever cross my mind, "Hey, you know what sounds fun? Let's all act like we're humping a dude and then have people touch our balls when they don't want to lol." What a bunch of sickos.

Big ten sucks. Sucks really bad. It's a lame, perverted, elitist and smug conference that's incredibly overrated. The over-the-top woke liberalism does not align with Nebraska values. The football is ok, I enjoy watching some of the teams, some I don't. It's easy to say now that it was a wrong decision joining. It is, however, revisionist hindsight.
Do I wish we were still in the big 12? Yes. But I get why the decision was made when it was.

I hope BIG adds Kansas.

Agreed.. Nebraska values align much more with big 12 and sec, but we’re stuck with B1G and PAC 12. The real question is when do we start acting like the rest of the B1G? Our values are fleeting.

 

[huskerfan1414]

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Some of these allegations are racist and offensive. There are certainly things in here which should never have been said.

Read that again.

Having said that--------------------------

Some of these allegations are absolutely stupid, and are not racist at all. Mad because the majority of the offensive side of the ball is "white"? Dude, YOU'RE the racist! You can't make this stuff up.

Some of these dudes are weak. "Microaggressions"...haha...they were trained well by their "professors".

(I fully support coaches demanding their players cut their hair. Long hair is for women and hippies. Dread locks are ugly. Long hair is ugly. I DO have a problem with a coach telling some players to cut their hair and not making others. I'm an equal opportunity long-hair-hater.)