If Mike Riley is your guy, you forget that dumb idea and just hire Pelini a new recruiting coordinator and life coach.Painful. Sweet baby Jesus, Still can’t believe the Riley hire happened……
If Mike Riley is your guy, you forget that dumb idea and just hire Pelini a new recruiting coordinator and life coach.Painful. Sweet baby Jesus, Still can’t believe the Riley hire happened……
I live in Minnesota, and when other fans hear I cheer for Nebraska, the typical response is sincere sympathy these days. Sort of, ‘That sucks. Hang in there, man.’
It’s bad.
When this whole hire-fire cycle started 2 decades ago, there was this sort of entitled ‘We’re NEBRASKA!’ attitude. Multiple administrations didn’t really take into account that you can’t have a multi decade hire-fire pattern in a region without a natural recruiting base. We salted the earth, and the current generation of recruits doesn’t care about our history book glory.
With Solich, Callahan, Pelini—guys that get to that 9 win threshold—we should have been patient and tweaked things instead of burning everything to the ground each time. When we were finally patient it was with that worthless Frost who had a mindnumbingly stupid extension despite demonstrating only that he was a horrible coach that said dumb things during his time here.
And he also developed a great offense (which they kept with Pelini) and was awesome at recruiting. My point is that in our region of the country, with our recruiting issues, the guy should have been given a shot with a new defensive coordinator prior to tossing him. These guys that can get up to those 9 win seasons deserve more patience and time to correct. Frost, the one guy we were patient with, only won 3-5 games a season.Sir, Callahan brought in two losing seasons out of his four seasons at NU and only "one" year of 9 winning games.
Honestly you can't try to please the fans with the name of the head coach hire. That's not the right reason to choose the next head coach. You'd never satisfy 100% of the fans no matter how hard you tried. But you don't need to either. You need to hire a coach who will win/win/win and just about every fan will then turn from a critic into an enthusiastic supporter.This fan base won’t be unanimously happy with anybody short of Nick Saban and then there would be complaints…..😏
I think you forget that probably 90% or more of the fan base would consider Mickey a home run hire. The handful of people who frequent boards or were high school football stars or coaches that want Fickell and consider MJ woefully under shooting the mark are insignificant as a barometer within the ADs office.And yeah, if we don't make a decently good hire, there's going to be a revolt. And it will be justified.
The culture of old Nebraska is dead. Eventually the old timers will die off and even if we were national champions next year under Urban Meyer no one in your generation will collectively remember enough husker history to bridge the divide that is the wildnerness we are now in.Fans are apathetic. Look at this board. Posting is way down. Part of that being Husker Online's split from Rivals but a big part is because we flat out stink. For Pete's sake theres a large contingency of fans that believe the best we can do is a guy that has never been more than a wide receiver coach. Mickey is not a serious candidate for any Power 5 jobs other than this one. I wish him nothing but success to end the year and, in the future, wherever he may be. But he is not qualified to lead this program.
Trev better be poaching a current Power 5 head coach. I'm late 20s. The first season I really remember as a kid was Frank's last year. I remember bits and pieces of Eric Crouch as a kid. Every fan under 32 has no recollection of this program being relevant. This program is 5.5 feet in the ground right now and time is lowering us deeper and deeper into the ground. This has to work. Or Memorial stadium will be hosting Ultimate Frisbee on Fall Saturdays in the 2030s.
That was depressing...The culture of old Nebraska is dead. Eventually the old timers will die off and even if we were national champions next year under Urban Meyer no one in your generation will collectively remember enough husker history to bridge the divide that is the wildnerness we are now in.
the eric crouch era was fun, but also the start of the decline. The death of the I-back began, the Colorado embarrassment, and of course not being good enough to sniff the U’s jock. NU now is split into younger more fairweather type fans and the older generations for whom a few Johnny Rodgers clips and the sell out streak will keep the illusion going for a while longer.
we may return to dominance with B1G money leading the way, but considering the game is NFL lite now, the storied past will mostly stay in stories that fewer people remember.
Who the F are you even talking to????The culture of old Nebraska is dead. Eventually the old timers will die off and even if we were national champions next year under Urban Meyer no one in your generation will collectively remember enough husker history to bridge the divide that is the wildnerness we are now in.
the eric crouch era was fun, but also the start of the decline. The death of the I-back began, the Colorado embarrassment, and of course not being good enough to sniff the U’s jock. NU now is split into younger more fairweather type fans and the older generations for whom a few Johnny Rodgers clips and the sell out streak will keep the illusion going for a while longer.
we may return to dominance with B1G money leading the way, but considering the game is NFL lite now, the storied past will mostly stay in stories that fewer people remember.
Just a quick note.The culture of old Nebraska is dead. Eventually the old timers will die off and even if we were national champions next year under Urban Meyer no one in your generation will collectively remember enough husker history to bridge the divide that is the wildnerness we are now in.
the eric crouch era was fun, but also the start of the decline. The death of the I-back began, the Colorado embarrassment, and of course not being good enough to sniff the U’s jock. NU now is split into younger more fairweather type fans and the older generations for whom a few Johnny Rodgers clips and the sell out streak will keep the illusion going for a while longer.
we may return to dominance with B1G money leading the way, but considering the game is NFL lite now, the storied past will mostly stay in stories that fewer people remember.
I'm kinda upbeat bout things, got nil to at least balance things away from the sec, ohio state and usc..it's legal to pay players now.The culture of old Nebraska is dead. Eventually the old timers will die off and even if we were national champions next year under Urban Meyer no one in your generation will collectively remember enough husker history to bridge the divide that is the wildnerness we are now in.
the eric crouch era was fun, but also the start of the decline. The death of the I-back began, the Colorado embarrassment, and of course not being good enough to sniff the U’s jock. NU now is split into younger more fairweather type fans and the older generations for whom a few Johnny Rodgers clips and the sell out streak will keep the illusion going for a while longer.
we may return to dominance with B1G money leading the way, but considering the game is NFL lite now, the storied past will mostly stay in stories that fewer people remember.
What do you think the odds are that Tennessee cheated?If Tennessee can come back and be at the top of the college football world. Nebraska sure can too. Tennessee has been doing the exact same shit as we have for 2 decades and they finally got their guy and are having success. We can do it. We just got to find the right guy. The night is darkest just before the dawn. I promise you the dawn is coming.
What do you think the odds are that Tennessee cheated?
What do you think the odds are that Tennessee cheated?
Cheating is legal now with NILWhat do you think the odds are that Tennessee cheated?
I hope its not 90% were supposed to be 1 of the smarter fan bases in cfb. I suspect that the 90% drops significantly over the remaining games. I like Mickey but I think the fish bowl in Lincoln mite be to much over the long haul. Who knows maybe he kills it as a HC somewhere. But as a 1st time HC he will be an experiment and I hope the UNL administration understands how critical this hire is. Can they afford to gamble on another experiment? I dont think so.I think you forget that probably 90% or more of the fan base would consider Mickey a home run hire. The handful of people who frequent boards or were high school football stars or coaches that want Fickell and consider MJ woefully under shooting the mark are insignificant as a barometer within the ADs office.
And if that P5 coach happens to be Fleck or Leipold and fans get so pissy they want to bounce then peace outFans are apathetic. Look at this board. Posting is way down. Part of that being Husker Online's split from Rivals but a big part is because we flat out stink. For Pete's sake theres a large contingency of fans that believe the best we can do is a guy that has never been more than a wide receiver coach. Mickey is not a serious candidate for any Power 5 jobs other than this one. I wish him nothing but success to end the year and, in the future, wherever he may be. But he is not qualified to lead this program.
Trev better be poaching a current Power 5 head coach. I'm late 20s. The first season I really remember as a kid was Frank's last year. I remember bits and pieces of Eric Crouch as a kid. Every fan under 32 has no recollection of this program being relevant. This program is 5.5 feet in the ground right now and time is lowering us deeper and deeper into the ground. This has to work. Or Memorial stadium will be hosting Ultimate Frisbee on Fall Saturdays in the 2030s.
Minnesota had a reasonable excuse since their downturn coincided with the Vikings coming to townWe may be on the same path as the likes of Minnesota who after a few decades of high level success fell off and never got off the mat to obtain any degree of relevancy
our success has been greater than minnesota and more sustained - but the fall off may be similar
I hope our kids - grandkids - great grand kids etc don’t forever categorize Nebraska with the Minnesota’s - Iowa’s (which to them may seem pretty good) rather than with the elites
That’s true also. Creighton yuppies I’ve heard..I love the moon but it's not exactly a sports bar. Lots of yuppies there.
Lol if 90% think Joseph would be a home run hire, 90% of the fanbase are morons. He objectively would not be. Honestly if Nebraska hires Joseph I will be pretty apathetic about the program. We officially will be at the kid's table of the sport since it shows we don't care about winning. There are too many proven coaches to try out an experimentI think you forget that probably 90% or more of the fan base would consider Mickey a home run hire. The handful of people who frequent boards or were high school football stars or coaches that want Fickell and consider MJ woefully under shooting the mark are insignificant as a barometer within the ADs office.
Too oldThis fan base won’t be unanimously happy with anybody short of Nick Saban and then there would be complaints…..😏
"Just"?Honestly you can't try to please the fans with the name of the head coach hire. That's not the right reason to choose the next head coach. You'd never satisfy 100% of the fans no matter how hard you tried. But you don't need to either. You need to hire a coach who will win/win/win and just about every fan will then turn from a critic into an enthusiastic supporter.
Les had some indiscretion problems at KU as well. There were several sexual harassment accusations at KULes Miles was fired due to a past problem at LSU (as well as declining mental health) and I don’t think Mel Tucker was fired from Colorado.
That issue has become more prevalent over the last 10? years or so when those head coaches make such enormous amounts of money. JMOLes had some indiscretion problems at KU as well. There were several sexual harassment accusations at KU
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by contract on life.Just a quick note.
I am an old-timer and I'd love to read your contract on life.
Not everybody becomes an old-timer before they die off.I'm not sure I understand what you mean by contract on life.
Delusion runs strong among all of nebraska football. The Indiana basketball of college football. The killer of coaching careers. Another bad hire away from being Colorado footballThis fan base won’t be unanimously happy with anybody short of Nick Saban and then there would be complaints…..😏
loll.. There Stupidity and most of you Huskers fans who wanted this dog turd Scott as a head coach! How many on here will admit to this? I never wanted him, because i never thought he proved he was a Top coach,But i saw on here most licking Scotty sack in hopes of getting him at the time!! lollTo recap, our fans obsessively look forward to our seasons, and our administrators basically sacrificed this one in their ridiculous efforts to oust Frost from their own stupidity. Sacrificing this season was presumably to lower Frost’s buyout and save money, but then they tossed him mere weeks prior to his buyout being significantly lowered anyway. This is all on top of over 2 decades of being lost in the wilderness with inconsistent, competing plans from multiple now fired/retired “leaders.”
It is important to be loyal to your team, but this multidecade sh*t show needs to end. If we don’t get someone good, I think they are going to see a large portion of our fan base check out. Forget the sell out streak. Being a fan of our program has been almost unbearable, and most I talk to aren’t optimistic about our next yet unnamed coach either. No amount of pro-Husker propaganda is going to excite people anymore. We have sucked too long and need results.
well we could always do what your school has done. You know, keep a crappy coach for eternity and watch your program die a slow death. At least we have some trophies to look at in our trophy case. National Championship trophies not participation trophies like your Hawks.Delusion runs strong among all of nebraska football. The Indiana basketball of college football. The killer of coaching careers. Another bad hire away from being Colorado fooball
It doesn't have to either be hard or take a long time to bring Nebraska back. You can turn over the roster faster than ever these days and with NIL you now are able to be much more competitive in recruiting. The issue though is that the horrible record over the past several years has destroyed the confidence in much of the Nebraska fanbase so many are pessimistic about coming back.Nebraska is like the current political situation, not good. I don't know about everyone else but Nebraska has ruined my Saturdays to the point where I have little interest in watching. The Nebraska fix would be easy if Nebraska was located in the South or West and that would create a solid recruiting territory but Nebraska is not located anywhere close to either, it's not even close.
When Nebraska crashed it crashed hard and it will take one hell of a coach to raise Nebraska from the trash heap and there is a coach who can do it but it won't come from a lot of re-treads. In my opinion and it's only my opinion Nebraska should sign Joseph with a modest contract to see if he can turn this thing with new staff members that are solid.
Nebraska is located in the middle of the country and so you have to have a coach who can convince kids from the South and the West to venture to the middle of the country to play for the Cornhuskers and Joseph is that coach.
It's time Nebraska stops pulling names out of a hat hoping just like the national lottery you draw a winner. Josephs name was never in the hat, time to play the hand we have and see what plays out.
In theory and on paper but the reality tells us a completely suffering story. There is chance and there is probability.It doesn't have to either be hard or take a long time to bring Nebraska back. You can turn over the roster faster than ever these days and with NIL you now are able to be much more competitive in recruiting. The issue though is that the horrible record over the past several years has destroyed the confidence in much of the Nebraska fanbase so many are pessimistic about coming back.
Not everybody becomes an old-timer before they die off.
Yet, here you are. Every day.Delusion runs strong among all of nebraska football. The Indiana basketball of college football. The killer of coaching careers. Another bad hire away from being Colorado football
To recap, our fans obsessively look forward to our seasons, and our administrators basically sacrificed this one in their ridiculous efforts to oust Frost from their own stupidity. Sacrificing this season was presumably to lower Frost’s buyout and save money, but then they tossed him mere weeks prior to his buyout being significantly lowered anyway. This is all on top of over 2 decades of being lost in the wilderness with inconsistent, competing plans from multiple now fired/retired “leaders.”
It is important to be loyal to your team, but this multidecade sh*t show needs to end. If we don’t get someone good, I think they are going to see a large portion of our fan base check out. Forget the sell out streak. Being a fan of our program has been almost unbearable, and most I talk to aren’t optimistic about our next yet unnamed coach either. No amount of pro-Husker propaganda is going to excite people anymore. We have sucked too long and need results.
And yeah, if we don't make a decently good hire, there's going to be a revolt. And it will be justified.
What is a decently good hire? Can you define that? LOL, greatest coach in Husker history, TO, was elevated from the OC position and most of you twits if you were around would have gone apeshit at the time.
So if not MJ, then who?? There ain't shit out there unless TA goes after Freeze or Sanders and I highly doubt he is smart enough to go for either.An internal hire makes sense when you're coming off two nattys and a Heisman trophy winner. It does not make sense when your program is a dumpster fire.