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Haha why didn't you reveal your hatred of Notre Dame football on your first date? If you are Catholic I would just tell her your true feelings, she has little recourse. The Bible makes it easy peasy. She cannot divorce you or deny you your conjugal rights! #bibleforthewin
 
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Haha why didn't you reveal your hatred of Notre Dame football on your first date? If you are Catholic I would just tell her your true feelings, she has little recourse. The Bible makes it easy peasy. She cannot divorce you or deny you your conjugal rights! #bibleforthewin
Actually our first "date" was in my apartment. I decided to win her over with micro brew beer and football. Notre Dame was playing Ohio State so I invited her over to watch it. ND got killed and she was in a horrible mood and went home. Ahhhhhh!
So I had more beer and smoked a cigar
 
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Actually our first "date" was in my apartment. I decided to win her over with micro brew beer and football. Notre Dame was playing Ohio State so I invited her over to watch it. ND got killed and she was in a horrible mood and went home. Ahhhhhh!
So I had more beer and smoked a cigar

Haha it must be true love! Glad she came back for a second date.
 
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Ok, so next Tuesday my wife and I are taking a road trip from our sheep farm here in eastern pa to Lincoln for the Oregon game. But here is the problem. My wife is a Notre Dame grad and a HUGE fan. Her senior year was the Holtz national title year. So she is nuts. She is insisting that on the way to Lincoln we need to stop in South Bend for two days to visit her old haunts. She thinks I will be into it because she has no idea, even after 19 years of marriage, that I LOATHE, DESPISE, and HATE Notre Dame football. I have hidden this sordid detail all these years. I can tolerate sitting in a room watching a ND game while she cheers for the wretched filth. Hell, it is only three hours and I can get drunk.
But here is my question... How can I possibly avoid losing it entirely if I have to spend two days in that cesspool? What strategies guys are there for keeping my cool and keeping my secret? I can't walk around the ND campus totally smashed. Can I?
And don't tell me to just tell her the truth. You don't know her. Because we are Catholics she thinks it is some kind of damned religious obligation to cheer for those asshats.
All advice is welcome.
Truth is ND is a great campus and when I was there for the "HUSKER HOME GAME" I was greeted by a lot of great fans. Also it is a blue blood campus that should be on one bucket list. And beside......It will take her back to her college day's if you know what I mean! Winking
 
Truth is ND is a great campus and when I was there for the "HUSKER HOME GAME" I was greeted by a lot of great fans. Also it is a blue blood campus that should be on one bucket list. And beside......It will take her back to her college day's if you know what I mean! Winking
Yeah, except we are staying in the home of an old friend of hers. Small house. Thin walls.... Damn. I guess there is always the back seat. This is a road trip after all.
 
Just tell her that in return for you taking her to see South Bend, she has to give you oral. If she's like my wife, you won't end up within two hours of South Bend. Problem solved.

POTW!! RollingLaugh
 
No. She tolerates NU football. She is a fan of college football and she knows our history. She just thinks it is inferior to ND glory.
And I rarely pull for Texas. But internally I was on Sunday

There is something really wrong with you knowing that she isn't enamored at all with NU football, and she having no idea that you don't like ND football.

19 years of biting your tongue, while she minimizes your favorite team?? It's time to take back one of the legs of the pair of pants...and no better weekend than to set the record straight than after spending 2 days with a Notre Dame transfusion connected to your arm. Rip that needle out of your arm and tell her what sort of blood courses through your veins. Time to read your manifesto and take back your country.
 
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Yeah, except we are staying in the home of an old friend of hers. Small house. Thin walls.... Damn. I guess there is always the back seat. This is a road trip after all.

Time for a nature walk. Go full on caveman.
 
How bout being honest with your wife? Tell her you hate her alma mater and that they vault to the top of the polls with 1 decent win and you can't stand them.
 
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south bend itself is almost as dangerous as gary, indiana anymore... and that's not exaggerating and if you know anything about the history of gary that should scare the crap out of you. it's a nasty, nasty town. to be fair, nd campus is relatively safe and it's decently beautiful but that town itself is harsh.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ says gary, in is safer than 3% of american cities. south bend is safer than 5%. sure part of that stat is dependent on methodology but it should give you some idea just how nasty that town is -- it is NOT somewhere you go on a lark.

note: my fiance is from nw indiana... and we know quite a few people from the area. this is not secondhand info we are in the plymouth area (half hour south of south bend) several times a year.
 
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Just stayed in South Bend, twice, brought two relatives back from Nebraska and this was halfway point during drive. Hated that there are only two accesses to I80 and this roads hold you hostage to construction, to their gas and food, unless one gets off and returns thru toll booth. Plus they have either removed all Rest Areas or are tearing them down. Used I70 on return trip, much better route, fewer tolls, better food and more gas options. South Bend was very disappointing, had visited it years ago, but didn't see much improvement or hardly any changes for the better. Must be a nightmare for traffic on game days, HWY31 South gives a little relief, but not much. During the week seemed as if the place was almost a ghost town. Ate at hotel, due to not thrilled with service, the one time went to a local restaurant. Night life was non-existent downtown, was sad to experience.
 
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From The Heart of Darkness by Conrad? Only Kurtz I know

So...Apocalypse Now was Copola's screen adaptation of Heart of Darkness, eh? I've never read the book, so that's interesting info.

Truth be told, I always thought Charlie's pic was of Moby. :D
 
Just stayed in South Bend, twice, brought two relatives back from Nebraska and this was halfway point during drive. Hated that there are only two accesses to I80 and this roads hold you hostage to construction, to their gas and food, unless one gets off and returns thru toll booth. Plus they have either removed all Rest Areas or are tearing them down. Used I70 on return trip, much better route, fewer tolls, better food and more gas options. South Bend was very disappointing, had visited it years ago, but didn't see much improvement or hardly any changes for the better. Must be a nightmare for traffic on game days, HWY31 South gives a little relief, but not much. During the week seemed as if the place was almost a ghost town. Ate at hotel, due to not thrilled with service, the one time went to a local restaurant. Night life was non-existent downtown, was sad to experience.

it's hard to have solid night life when a town is that dangerous.

we tend to take the highways and back roads back. we take state highway 10 into illinois and end up through kankakee and dwight and then go north to morris and take i-80. lets us avoid chicago and anything resembling the south side and isn't that much more time (from where we drive it's honestly only about an extra 20-30 minutes which is worth it to me to avoid chicago -- i hate driving in that town unless it's midnight or later and even then only on the interstates).

main issue going across the borders is the rivers. there's only so many ways to cross them so you have to plan it out a bit.

it's a quiet drive. flat as heck obviously. i like it at night though... if the stars are out it can be pretty in its own way.
 
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I also do not care for Notre Dame. But was forced to go to SB to watch my in-laws team, MSU (another team I don't like). I thought it was really cool, and didn't regret it one bit. From the basilica, grotto, TD JC, gorgeous campus, various species of redheaded people, it was really cool. And I didn't regret it one bit. The people were... meh. Alot of self important b-holes... but that could've been my own prejudice. All in all, it's a pretty cool experience. Make sure to go to that stupid place where the band plays before the game. That was way cool.
 
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I also do not care for Notre Dame. But was forced to go to SB to watch my in-laws team, MSU (another team I don't like). I thought it was really cool, and didn't regret it one bit. From the basilica, grotto, TD JC, gorgeous campus, various species of redheaded people, it was really cool. And I didn't regret it one bit. The people were... meh. Alot of self important b-holes... but that could've been my own prejudice. All in all, it's a pretty cool experience. Make sure to go to that stupid place where the band plays before the game. That was way cool.

it isn't just you. i went and watched bookstore basketball a few years back. lots of famous people there (i remember jerome bettis specifically). the rest of the people there were ... shall we say arrogant and hadn't earned it.
 
Go and enjoy the trip, you won't be the first Husker to have a good time there.

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Ok, so next Tuesday my wife and I are taking a road trip from our sheep farm here in eastern pa to Lincoln for the Oregon game. But here is the problem. My wife is a Notre Dame grad and a HUGE fan. Her senior year was the Holtz national title year. So she is nuts. She is insisting that on the way to Lincoln we need to stop in South Bend for two days to visit her old haunts. She thinks I will be into it because she has no idea, even after 19 years of marriage, that I LOATHE, DESPISE, and HATE Notre Dame football. I have hidden this sordid detail all these years. I can tolerate sitting in a room watching a ND game while she cheers for the wretched filth. Hell, it is only three hours and I can get drunk.
But here is my question... How can I possibly avoid losing it entirely if I have to spend two days in that cesspool? What strategies guys are there for keeping my cool and keeping my secret? I can't walk around the ND campus totally smashed. Can I?
And don't tell me to just tell her the truth. You don't know her. Because we are Catholics she thinks it is some kind of damned religious obligation to cheer for those asshats.
All advice is welcome.
It's a cool place, just enjoy it.
 
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