OT AI facial recognition

[Bruce1981]

But will you? That is the question. Is principle more important than paycheck? Only you can decide that.

Interesting topic nonetheless.

I have masking tape in my lunchbox to tape over the lens and am in the process of informing people their biometric data is being stored somewhere without their knowledge and consent. I have a Union backing me. I imagine I'll be putting my notice in the next few weeks, getting fired or getting bought out.

 

[GBRforLife1]

I have a buddy who does home building in Utah. Before the 08 crash they were building over 400 homes a year. Insane. But his scheduling program enabled that to happen. 3-4 subs in every trade, perfectly scheduled, and voila....over 1 home a day. I think they are somewhere around 250 now. Still crazy to me. Hard to wrap one's mind around how technology and streamlining has increased production.

Removing down-time and increasing efficiency is great. Does that mean the employee is delivering more value to justify a higher wage?

 

[GBRforLife1]

I have masking tape in my lunchbox to tape over the lens and am in the process of informing people their biometric data is being stored somewhere without their knowledge and consent. I have a Union backing me. I imagine I'll be putting my notice in the next few weeks, getting fired or getting bought out.

Interested to hear how your union works through this.

 

[Bruce1981]

Interested to hear how your union works through this.

Kinda think my employer doesn't have a leg to stand on since they were supposed to blur out our faces in the agreement.

BTW, they already had GPS on everything before this. So if someone was parked and sleeping, all a Foreman would have to do is drive where the employee was sleeping and nail them.

 

[cavalot]

Removing down-time and increasing efficiency is great. Does that mean the employee is delivering more value to justify a higher wage?

No. In most cases workmanship has gone astray. But production seems to be at higher degree of desire regardless of the quality. Im shocked by how much the common foot soldier in the construction world is getting paid. Many of the trades that once were considered a form of art have become a thing of the past. Brick laying has given way to stone veneer. Similar cost in labor, but half the talent needed. Trim carpentry.... same.

Home building cost are just insane. People want to blame material cost, but in reality, labor is almost as bad, if not worse in certain areas. And for what? A fraction of the workmanship? Sad!

 

[king_kong_]

AI vs the Teacher's Union will be one for the ages

very excited for it

trust your gut & fight the good fight, OP

 

[Bruce1981]

AI vs the Teacher's Union will be one for the ages

very excited for it

trust your gut & fight the good fight, OP

Not a teacher.

Not gonna win this battle Christ will.

Oh well I won't be blamed for people having a boot on their neck in 5 years.

As soon as AI gets to AGI this is over.

 

[Joedaly]

I have read that Amazon has this in their delivery vehicles. If the AI catches you yawning or doing anything besides looking at the road your supervisor gets an alert. I don’t want that level of micromanagement.

 

[Bruce1981]

Y'all realize all facial recognition systems don't utilize AI, right? When all of them do, good freaking luck

 

[beaglehusker]

Where's the outrage from the right

 

[Bruce1981]

I have read that Amazon has this in their delivery vehicles. If the AI catches you yawning or doing anything besides looking at the road your supervisor gets an alert. I don’t want that level of micromanagement.

Ours is capable of the same thing. If you clip a curb, accelerate through a turn a little too fast, even move your eyes to look at the side mirror, sudden stops, accelerate a little too hard, it sends an alert to mid and upper management.

I can understand surveillance to make sure nobody is using their phone while driving but this along with storing my biometric data, scanning my face to gauge emotion and several other things is way way overboard.

 

[cavalot]

Not a teacher.

Not gonna win this battle Christ will.

Oh well I won't be blamed for people having a boot on their neck in 5 years.

As soon as AI gets to AGI this is over.

I assume it was a barb at me. Little does he know I'm not a member of the union.

 

[Bruce1981]

Where's the outrage from the right

I am a Ron Paul Libertarian.

 

[V-Doub]

You give the same data out every time you fly from most airports.

Yes, if you’re forced to travel for work I suppose. This surveillance has been forced upon at the risk of losing his employment and well being. Otherwise nobody is forced to travel by air and the actions taken are directly related to security and keeping people safe.

Not sure what major security asset the company gains by such surveillance on their employees? I’m guessing this is all about using AI surveillance to promote a more efficient and compliant labor force. (drivers) Hey, if it’s legal it’s legal until the law catches up and changes things. But I wouldn’t want to work for a company that feels the need to intimately surveil my every move without a good security reason to do so.

Well depends on how much they want to pay me! We all have a number that will compromise our standards and ethics. 🤣

 

[salsa red]

If you have a smartphone or use a laptop with a camera they're constantly recording you in addition to knowing your browsing & search history already. I'm with the employer on this one. If I'm paying drivers on my expensive trucks I want to make sure they're working properly. No different than employees at store being recorded constantly. If someone has a problem with this the employer probably assumes they're doing something wrong. Would also help with liability in the event of an accident.

 

[Bruce1981]

If you have a smartphone or use a laptop with a camera they're constantly recording you in addition to knowing your browsing & search history already. I'm with the employer on this one. If I'm paying drivers on my expensive trucks I want to make sure they're working properly. No different than employees at store being recorded constantly. If someone has a problem with this the employer probably assumes they're doing something wrong. Would also help with liability in the event of an accident.

You do realize there is a difference between facial recognition and AI facial recognition right? And it's not like I agree with the government or corporations spying on citizens. I'm against that. This is a little more invasive. Learned today they have zoom meetings every week and pull up everyone's faces and go over shit.

If you have kids your stance is going to put a boot on their neck in the future. Congratulations on being a bitch.

 

[salsa red]

You do realize there is a difference between facial recognition and AI facial recognition right? And it's not like I agree with the government or corporations spying on citizens. I'm against that. This is a little more invasive. Learned today they have zoom meetings every week and pull up everyone's faces and go over shit.

If you have kids your stance is going to put a boot on their neck in the future. Congratulations on being a bitch.

Dude, its a camera. New cars have them installed to know which settings to use for the driver. I bet you have a smartphone, it already spies on you more than your employer, and I'm sure it uses some kind of ai recognition to feed you ads. Your employer owns the equipment. Like I said earlier, if you have a problem with this I bet you have something to hide.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

My social credit score is gonna be sh!t once AI finds all my shit posting. Will social credit be more valuable than my 823 credit score?

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Dude, it’s a camera. New cars have them installed to know which settings to use for the driver. I bet you have a smartphone, it already spies on you more than your employer, and I'm sure it uses some kind of ai recognition to feed you ads. Your employer owns the equipment. Like I said earlier, if you have a problem with this I bet you have something to hide.

govern me harder big government… grow a pair

 

[HikingHusker]

Was informed 8 months ago that a new camera surveillance system was going into all trucks where I work. Contract states they have a right to surveillance so I had no protest and just let the Union do their job. They came to an agreeement that as long as faces were blurred and management had them in their trucks as well, we as a Union would not fight it.

Had surgery mid November. I was out for eight weeks and came back to them being installed. For the Union side of things, they are not in all of the Foreman trucks and they also don't blur out faces. Also come to find out that there is AI facial recognition involved. As soon as I get in a truck the system is supposed to assign me to the truck and if the system wrongly identifies me, the Foreman is to correct the mistake so the AI can learn. All this without prior warning or prior consent. I don't know where they are keeping my biometric data.

I'm sure I have no recourse except for to just leave the job. Which I'm prepared to do.

The AI wave is here, and it’s not slowing down. You’ve got two choices: go off-grid, buy land in the mountains, build a cabin, grow your own food, hunt for meat, and ditch the internet forever.

Or, adapt to it. Your call.

That said—do you usually sign off on the truck you’re driving, or is it assigned to you? Beyond efficiency, what makes AI logging your truck any different?


PS - AI edited that response. This is my original:


The AI wave is here and it ain't stoppin. Gotta buy some land up in the mountains, build a cabin, grow your own crops, hunt for your own meat, and never use an internet connected device ever again.

Or adapt to it. Either option is available.

Question: Do you not typically sign off on the truck you are taking or someone is assigning you a truck? Other than being more efficient, how is an AI logging the truck you are in any different?

 

[Bruce1981]

Dude, its a camera. New cars have them installed to know which settings to use for the driver. I bet you have a smartphone, it already spies on you more than your employer, and I'm sure it uses some kind of ai recognition to feed you ads. Your employer owns the equipment. Like I said earlier, if you have a problem with this I bet you have something to hide.

Dude, it's not just a camera.

No my employer just became the biggest spy of me.

Just because they listen to me and send me ads, doesn't mean i agree with it. Nobody should have this type of power.

 

[Bruce1981]

The AI wave is here, and it’s not slowing down. You’ve got two choices: go off-grid, buy land in the mountains, build a cabin, grow your own food, hunt for meat, and ditch the internet forever.

Or, adapt to it. Your call.

That said—do you usually sign off on the truck you’re driving, or is it assigned to you? Beyond efficiency, what makes AI logging your truck any different?


PS - AI edited that response. This is my original:


The AI wave is here and it ain't stoppin. Gotta buy some land up in the mountains, build a cabin, grow your own crops, hunt for your own meat, and never use an internet connected device ever again.

Or adapt to it. Either option is available.

Question: Do you not typically sign off on the truck you are taking or someone is assigning you a truck? Other than being more efficient, how is an AI logging the truck you are in any different?

I am assigned a truck. It only saves my Foreman about 20 seconds to no longer manually enter it unless it is wrong in identifying one of us.

It's different by capturing my biometric data and storing it. We already had GPS tracking our speed and location before this. Now it records us. Wanna stop people from driving and using the phone? Fine. Wanna try to gauge my mood by my facial expression and monitor me 24/7? F off creep