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Pretty much same as Nebraska. It’s a risky move to take it all and then die a few years later to leave your spouse nothing, but on the flip side my grandmother is a former teacher who retired at 61 and is still going at 92, she’s gotten waaaaaay more than she ever contributed to the pension.
If you’re healthy, you can offset with life insurance. But a lot of people, like my FIL, don’t consider it until retirement age when they have a bunch of health issues. So they can’t afford it.
 
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If you live in Kansas and relatively close to the state border…quite a few teachers retire from Kansas and go to Missouri to teach and get vested in their retirement system by teaching 5 years. Missouri is not a social security state for full time educators so a higher percentage is placed in the Missouri pension plan.

I know quite a few people that have retired in Kansas and do not take the 100% pension amount because they want to support a significant other when they die.

There are different survivorship options but many take the 100% survivorship option so their wife or husband has a pension for their rest of their life. The survivorship options pay out a smaller amount but it can make sense depending on the situation. In this example…once the survivor passes away then the pension ends.
I think in Alaska, maybe not all over but in the "bush" you could do 7 years teaching and get full pension, at one point.
 
I've got about 10 years left. 59 and a half, I'm selling my house cashing out my 401k. Selling my gold and silver and headed to the beaches of Thailand. You can live like a king over there for way cheaper than the good old US of Inflation. A brand-new house over there for 80k. with a pool. Good luck finding a house in this country for 80k that isn't in a crack neighborhood or on fire.
To that I say Phuket!
 
GENERALLY speaking, rank and file in the public sector can typically retire much earlier than the folks in the private sector, of course because their defined benefit plans (pensions) vs. defined contribution plans (think 401(k)) in the private sector coupled with Social Security. You have to do a LOT more planning if you are self-employed or work in the private sector—your retirement security is YOUR responsibility not your employers. There is a large disparity in our country between public and private right now and most people aren’t even aware of this fact.
 
My wife and I retired and have had zero issues. I do agree, retiring can be a real challenge for some people.
Me and wife zero issues as well. But two guys I worked with who retired around the same time as I had major problems. They are both over-achievers. One guy got so depressed, I was actually worried about him. Luckily they both got jobs after about six months and I suspect will die at their desks. I guess, I'm not an over-achiever, so retirement was easy.
 
Me and wife zero issues as well. But two guys I worked with who retired around the same time as I had major problems. They are both over-achievers. One guy got so depressed, I was actually worried about him. Luckily they both got jobs after about six months and I suspect will die at their desks. I guess, I'm not an over-achiever, so retirement was easy.
Are they both married with annoying spouses???
 
Are they both married with annoying spouses???
The guy I worried about is divorced and sat home alone a lot. The other one has a nice wife but is an engineer and creating things and solving problems lights him up, so retirement took a lot of joy out of his life.
 
The guy I worried about is divorced and sat home alone a lot. The other one has a nice wife but is an engineer and creating things and solving problems lights him up, so retirement took a lot of joy out of his life.
Enginerds are just different people. My youngest daughter is a structural engineer who is married to a civil engineer. My other daughter is married to a structural engineer.

Holiday dinners with that group make my eyes glaze over. I tend to drink a lot when they come over.
 
The guy I worried about is divorced and sat home alone a lot. The other one has a nice wife but is an engineer and creating things and solving problems lights him up, so retirement took a lot of joy out of his life.
First dude sounds ****ing happy, you misread it. Second dude probably tried to Weird Science his wife and it didn't work...
 
Enginerds are just different people. My youngest daughter is a structural engineer who is married to a civil engineer. My other daughter is married to a structural engineer.

Holiday dinners with that group make my eyes glaze over. I tend to drink a lot when they come over.
Years ago...I was in a wedding. The girl I was walking up with was super hot and was "dating" a surgeon, dude looked the part and acted the part. He told me "Hey, just remember, she is with me"

I did not care, there were tons of girls there. Years later he is happily married. She is happily rich and cheats on him every chance she gets.
 
Just another couple up the rungs to becoming a totalitarian socialist country. High earners already are paying a 35% income tax rate on their last dollars. In my case as a self employed person the federal government already takes over 50% of the next dollars I make. 😕. 35% bracket plus 15.3% self employment tax Yeah I know you don’t feel sorry for me but damn that’s confiscatory.
Totalitarian government has nothing to do with the upper limit on the social security tax.
 
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Pretty much same as Nebraska. It’s a risky move to take it all and then die a few years later to leave your spouse nothing, but on the flip side my grandmother is a former teacher who retired at 61 and is still going at 92, she’s gotten waaaaaay more than she ever contributed to the pension.
Same is true of social security. It all evens out at 81 years of age. The best advice is to wait until 67 or longer to take it. Keep working if you enjoy what you do and aren't hating life.
 
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Some posts have discussed teacher retirement options.

If you live in Kansas and relatively close to the state border…quite a few teachers retire from Kansas and go to Missouri to teach and get vested in their retirement system by teaching 5 years. Missouri is not a social security state for full time educators so a higher percentage is placed in the Missouri pension plan.
It's an excellent way to "double dip" but a teacher I know on the Kansas side just doesn't want to deal with the challenge of a new district in a likely more challenging situation. He's retiring at 55 and leaving education entirely which is disappointing because he's a great teacher.
 
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Years ago...I was in a wedding. The girl I was walking up with was super hot and was "dating" a surgeon, dude looked the part and acted the part. He told me "Hey, just remember, she is with me"

I did not care, there were tons of girls there. Years later he is happily married. She is happily rich and cheats on him every chance she gets.
What a d-bag line. Guys like that need punched in junk.
 
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It's an excellent way to "double dip" but a teacher I know on the Kansas side just doesn't want to deal with the challenge of a new district in a likely more challenging situation. He's retiring at 55 and leaving education entirely which is disappointing because he's a great teacher.
There are so many teachers leaving the profession, it’s sad because I looked up to a lot of my teachers and coaches growing up but I rarely feel that way now as one. The only people I know who are double dipping are administrators and I think they love it because they are making a lot of money and they get to run the school how they see fit with no concerns about being pushed out by politics
 
Same is true of social security. It all evens out at 81 years of age. The best advice is to wait until 67 or longer to take it. Keep working if you enjoy what you do and aren't hating life.
I agree with this 100%

Most of the people I know that retire...end up working.

If you hate your job or the people you work with, I get it.
 
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There are so many teachers leaving the profession, it’s sad because I looked up to a lot of my teachers and coaches growing up but I rarely feel that way now as one. The only people I know who are double dipping are administrators and I think they love it because they are making a lot of money and they get to run the school how they see fit with no concerns about being pushed out by politics
So much of it depends on where you teach at.

I have been in a shitty school and an amazing school. The place I am at now doesn't even feel like a job.

This shitty school I was at, each day was the worst day.
 
There are so many teachers leaving the profession, it’s sad because I looked up to a lot of my teachers and coaches growing up but I rarely feel that way now as one. The only people I know who are double dipping are administrators and I think they love it because they are making a lot of money and they get to run the school how they see fit with no concerns about being pushed out by politics
It's why it annoys me that people make teachers scapegoats so often now. Hard enough time finding good teachers. I know I couldn't do it.
 
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So much of it depends on where you teach at.

I have been in a shitty school and an amazing school. The place I am at now doesn't even feel like a job.

This shitty school I was at, each day was the worst day.
Probably enjoy it because you dont actually work. You are postng on here during the school day and doing who knows what else on your phone.
One of those “teachers”.
 
Probably enjoy it because you dont actually work. You are postng on here during the school day and doing who knows what else on your phone.
One of those “teachers”.
Amen!

I am one of those rare people that can work AND check the internet at the same time.

Sometimes, don't tell anyone, sometimes, I even drink coffee while teaching and once, but only once, I had some chips while teaching.
 
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I have an aunt whos a teacher in a large district and its the spineless administrators, and parents, who are the problem.
Yep!

Basically it goes like this when it comes to poroblems

1. Parents: You are not in education, so stay the **** out. If you want to help, get a degree and come teach. I don't go to your office and tell you how to do your job.

2. Admin: They can make or break a building. I have an amazing one right now. I have had bad ones where once or twice a week her biggest concern was what the staff was wearing. We are adults, we all dress fine. Shut up. She also had a facial hair policy, ****ing ****.

3. Students: You are in a class with 25-30 kids...you are going to have 5 amazing kids...5 assholes and 15-20 typical kids. That is just how it works. If you can deal with the asshole kids, it is all kosher.
 
Sometimes, don't tell anyone, sometimes, I even drink coffee while teaching and once, but only once, I had some chips while teaching.
bazinga GIF
 
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Yep!

Basically it goes like this when it comes to poroblems

1. Parents: You are not in education, so stay the **** out. If you want to help, get a degree and come teach. I don't go to your office and tell you how to do your job.

2. Admin: They can make or break a building. I have an amazing one right now. I have had bad ones where once or twice a week her biggest concern was what the staff was wearing. We are adults, we all dress fine. Shut up. She also had a facial hair policy, ****ing ****.

3. Students: You are in a class with 25-30 kids...you are going to have 5 amazing kids...5 assholes and 15-20 typical kids. That is just how it works. If you can deal with the asshole kids, it is all kosher.
I can understand #2 totally. If it’s for ….

THE LADIES!!!!!
 
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Amen!

I am one of those rare people that can work AND check the internet at the same time.

Sometimes, don't tell anyone, sometimes, I even drink coffee while teaching and once, but only once, I had some chips while teaching.
I had a teacher that would sip on some
Jack while he taught. He was good teacher 🤣
 
I do not, and never have, understand people who claim they're bored after they retire. My guess is they were really boring people leading very boring lives before they retired.
Depths of winter could be a problem but worst case scenario if I had to read more, I could survive. But I want to be a snowbird so problem solved.
 
Yep!

Basically it goes like this when it comes to poroblems

1. Parents: You are not in education, so stay the **** out. If you want to help, get a degree and come teach. I don't go to your office and tell you how to do your job.

2. Admin: They can make or break a building. I have an amazing one right now. I have had bad ones where once or twice a week her biggest concern was what the staff was wearing. We are adults, we all dress fine. Shut up. She also had a facial hair policy, ****ing ****.

3. Students: You are in a class with 25-30 kids...you are going to have 5 amazing kids...5 assholes and 15-20 typical kids. That is just how it works. If you can deal with the asshole kids, it is all kosher.
1. If my kid is being taught some woke bullshit you better believe I’m raising some hell
 
I do not, and never have, understand people who claim they're bored after they retire. My guess is they were really boring people leading very boring lives before they retired.
That or they retired with not enough money and just sit at home all day. That being said there are plenty of things to do that are free.. go for a run/walk/ bike ride.
 
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I do not, and never have, understand people who claim they're bored after they retire. My guess is they were really boring people leading very boring lives before they retired.
There are a lot of people whose whole social life revolves around friends who are coworkers. For many their feelings of self worth has been determined by their work and the financial reward.
 
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