OT Retirement
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I’m sure you’re busy cold calling during the summer months and after 3pm
You know, just like any job
No. I started feeling bad for my teachers around 3rd grade.
Hasn’t stopped. You guys have my pity.
The extreme lack of ambition required to even consider education as a career is a life sentence
My mother-in-law is 92 and still keeps a little booze in her cupboard for guests. She likes an Amaretto sour or Moscow Mule when dining out or a glass of wine at family gatherings. Getting old doesn’t mean you have to give up everything.
Summer is pretty much the busiest time when it comes to recruiting, starting with 6th graders. The summer months are filled with trying to get younger kids on campus as much as possible for athletic camps, art camps, educational camps, theater, you name it. Countless hours are spent over the summer to get kids here and hopefully give them a positive experience.
During the school year it is non-stop visits from 6th-8th graders, they come to spend a day at the school to see what it is like during the school year. If you coach a sport that they are interested, the coaches meet with those guests and their parents (at the end of the day) and we recruit them even more as we discuss our sport and plan for them.
If their interests are journalism or music or art, those teachers/staff meet with them. We will do around 250+ visits this school year.
Then of course we have events during the school year at night and on the weekends to get those kids in the building as well.
You unfortunately seem to be like a good share of the teachers in public schools today. Many of them don’t really want to teach but it’s the only job they can get that gives them the kind of salary, benefits and days off they want. Theres soooo many teachers in my area school systems half assing it through the day.
IMO it’s gotten worse as some of the older boomer teachers have retired in my local schools. My oldest kid had great science, math and foreign language teachers who all were hired as part time college profs when they retired from the high school. 20 years later my youngest had crappy math and science teachers doing the minimum to get by. ☹️
In my experience, I don't think that's quite true, but you're not far off in that many teachers are doing just "enough". It is sad, but I think if you are honest, that's true of...just about everyone. Only people in fields where you have to be truly elite just to consider getting in do you see something different.
A LOT of teachers I know that left the field for other jobs are still doing just enough to get by in terms of their work ethic, but make more money and are way happier than before.
Yeah, I mean...we are all here posting and reading shit during the workday. It is not like we are all giving 100% all day long. Shit, I bet a lot of the posters "work from home" where we all KNOW you are not doing 100%, 100% of the time.
I worked in the business sector years ago (sales) and the only dudes working 100% of the time were the ones that were placed on a managing-out plan and they were trying to make it one more week.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I don't teach. And after volunteering to coach a couple different times I understand why other people don't want too. Parents are soft. Kids are soft. Across all political and income spectrums. Kids don't listen worth a shit. Parents don't want to help but have no problem sitting watching nearly every practice and doing nothing while their kid screws off. And then gets mad when their kid is disciplined. Ridiculous.
Outside of the bike and the bedroom, in that order, I mostly DGAF and do the bare min to get by. I work from home and literally just got dun throwing down some lawn food to take advantage of the wet grass from the rain we just got and am currently shopping for a hotel in Midtown for a lil romance later as we both have the day off tomorrow.
It is not a Schedule A deduction, it is a direct, unlimited reduction of your taxable income so you get the benefit of the 1/2 SE tax amount times your marginal rate. I agree with your point that high income taxpayers get hit by many unpleasant tax surprises (higher capital gains and qualified dividend rates, floors for Schedule A deductions, investment income surcharges, etc.) but I paid SE taxes for 30 years and didn't have a problem with it as it increases your SS payout amount when you claim.
Can you make this question easier for me by including Tampa?
THANK YOU!
1. That was funny
2. You are the first work from home person that has NOT tried to convince me how you work EVEN more now that you work from home.
I got to work from home for 2 months, it was AWESOME. Not because I worked more but because I could do tons of stuff I wanted to do.
Work from home sometimes. I'm not more or less productive, mainly because I get anxious if I have unfinished work, but I absolutely get to do way more crap I want to do. In the office today with little to do...thats why I'm on here! No other options.
I’ve been a remote employee for 12 years
I’m on 30 flights per year, overseas at minimum every 6 months
8-5 workday has been dead for decades
What you produce is all that matters
“While teaching”
Drinking coffee is obviously not the same as “checking” husker board and posting during school time. The fact that you try to equate the two points out the problem directly.
You are definitely one of the problems with education today.
You are probably also one of those creepy teachers who tries to be buddies with the students and be “cool”.
I ain’t gonna lie.. I’m out at the golf course responding to emails via my phone right now 🤣
One thing to add is the example I gave of my aunt isnt that the problem with parents so much is that they try to tell teachers how to teach, its more about not holding kids accountable at home and getting mad at the administrators when they are held accountable, and the weak administrators cave.
The problem with your take is its the classic “it doesnt happen” take when it actually does and is happening and theres ample proof. In every class at every school? Certainly not. But it is and does and parents should definitely be on the watch for it.
Maybe your media choices,,,,hide it?
I'm on lunch break right now, but I did just sneak some CRT into a Calc review last hour.
Ha! Exactly! That is my point!
But you were the one that brought up being done at work at 3pm and summers off.
And like everyone else, I am guessing you are not working 100% of the time from the hours of 8 until 5pm.
All that flying sounds miserable though. I hate flights over 2 hours.
Oh my god, TOTES! I mean, I want them to not only THINK I am cool but I want them to KNOW I am cool! That is the most important part!
I am not ONE of the problems with education today I am THE problem with education today.
Today, at the start of one class, I...wait for it...did not start my lesson right away but instead we talked for about 2-3 minutes because some of the students were talking about their favorite type of chicken wings!
I know, I know, I should have stopped that right when it started and taught bell to bell, but, instead I gave my opinion on wings.
Wait...you don't work through your lunch and keep teaching?
YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH EDUCATION TODAY!
You’re right. I tend to work Central European time because that’s what the job requires.
So, between 8-5 local time, I’m not working 100% of the time because my 12ish hour workday is 5 hours old by 8am.
Still laughing at “summer is the busiest time”. So funny.
Well i’m 66 and should be retired so I don’t feel too guilty about posting while I take a break from cutting cedar trees with a chainsaw😉
I think it is awesome. A lot of the people I work with don't like it. You know how it goes.
I know one teacher with not only a teaching degree but an administration degree that volunteers teaches 2 grades at a small Christian school. She’s definitely called. Her husband is a large farmer and she started doing it in part to be able to have a major role in her 4 kids’ education at least through 7th grade.
Well, you don't. But it is pretty clear that the person you are replying to has a media choice and my guess is that he thinks it is the only one that matters.
Wow, this thread went - well, just about how most of them go - started out about retirement as in how much money and when, good, bad and ugly of it all.
For the record, I have just under 40 years in Education as a teacher and administrator and have taught Grad students for higher education. I have worked in public and private schools and even helped parents start a Christian Classical School that I handed off after it took off. I have managed the states retirement system for schools and have a SIL in Nebraska who has retired there although I don't know as much about their program.
A lot of general comments off the wall about teachers and how hard they work, etc. Most of it is total BS. Yes, most get summers off which is not much these days and many are constantly going back for workshops, classes and changes in programs. In my 40 years I never worked a teaching/administration job where I had the full summer - mainly Christmas and a week or two in the summer.
Once, as a HS teacher I started an at-risk program and was in almost every classroom in our HS of 400 kids. I only thought I knew what was going on in these teachers classrooms - I did not. Some talked a good line but were lazy, some were unbelievable teachers and everything in between - much like every sphere of employment. I have also had several people who worked under/with me that became administrators at some level and I told them that the first thing they will learn as they spend time in classrooms is that their idea of what really goes on in the classrooms will meet reality real quick.
Good teachers work their butts off. I subbed a few times this year to help a school out and I had forgotten what a mess many of the public schools are. This was 3rd and 4th grades. The teachers are correcting behavior all day long and trying to teach. I cam home nearly depressed that so many kids just don't care which obviously reflects their parenting.
Then everyone wants to blame the principal. Well, I was one of those and I see things from the other said. There are some old sayings in schools - 10% of the students will cause 90% of your problems which is pretty accurate and I also would add, 10% of the teachers caused me 90% of my problems because they couldn't manage a classroom. They aren't terrible teachers, just average and you deal with. Not everyone at every job is great, there awesome who are average and below even.
I highly value private education over public. I know all the controversies and don't care. There are high expectations for learning and behavior and that is how it should be. I believe in school choice 100%. The problem in most schools around here and that I know which is a bunch is declining enrollment. The schools decline just enough so they lose some state reimbursement per student but not enough to lay people off. Schools have built in high cost services like one to one laptops and tons of software and all that goes with it. Now they are stuck keeping it up for 1,000 kids or 500.
Everyone who is on here who teachers should be able to get on their states sight and fill in some numbers to get your retirement income and it is pretty accurate. In Kansas it is based off your three highest years and there is NO COLA. Nebraska is higher but more money is put into the system there, I think 9% where as Kansas is 6% employee and a rough match by the state. Nebraska has a COLA for at least a period of time. In KS if a teacher goes back into a Kansas school the district has to pay a penalty for them working there. I could never get a legislator to tell me why they did this. I think it was to encourage job creation but schools can't find people to work many of the school jobs and it isn't just teaching.
I have serious problems (this is personal) with teachers who are lazy, sloppy, slurping coffee while teaching and who spend extra time drawing up football plays or planning practices. Yes, I was hard nosed about giving 100% to those students each and every day. My philosophy was we have 180 days to pour into those students everything we can give them and we need to teach like our hair is on fire each and every minute of those 180 days so someday they are productive members of this thing we call society. The HS won every academic award Kansas gave at the time, this was several years ago and it was all because of the teachers who were incredible - all the time and were professionals most of the time!
For the record, I have just under 40 years in Education as a teacher and administrator and have taught Grad students for higher education. I have worked in public and private schools and even helped parents start a Christian Classical School that I handed off after it took off. I have managed the states retirement system for schools and have a SIL in Nebraska who has retired there although I don't know as much about their program.
A lot of general comments off the wall about teachers and how hard they work, etc. Most of it is total BS. Yes, most get summers off which is not much these days and many are constantly going back for workshops, classes and changes in programs. In my 40 years I never worked a teaching/administration job where I had the full summer - mainly Christmas and a week or two in the summer.
Once, as a HS teacher I started an at-risk program and was in almost every classroom in our HS of 400 kids. I only thought I knew what was going on in these teachers classrooms - I did not. Some talked a good line but were lazy, some were unbelievable teachers and everything in between - much like every sphere of employment. I have also had several people who worked under/with me that became administrators at some level and I told them that the first thing they will learn as they spend time in classrooms is that their idea of what really goes on in the classrooms will meet reality real quick.
Good teachers work their butts off. I subbed a few times this year to help a school out and I had forgotten what a mess many of the public schools are. This was 3rd and 4th grades. The teachers are correcting behavior all day long and trying to teach. I cam home nearly depressed that so many kids just don't care which obviously reflects their parenting.
Then everyone wants to blame the principal. Well, I was one of those and I see things from the other said. There are some old sayings in schools - 10% of the students will cause 90% of your problems which is pretty accurate and I also would add, 10% of the teachers caused me 90% of my problems because they couldn't manage a classroom. They aren't terrible teachers, just average and you deal with. Not everyone at every job is great, there awesome who are average and below even.
I highly value private education over public. I know all the controversies and don't care. There are high expectations for learning and behavior and that is how it should be. I believe in school choice 100%. The problem in most schools around here and that I know which is a bunch is declining enrollment. The schools decline just enough so they lose some state reimbursement per student but not enough to lay people off. Schools have built in high cost services like one to one laptops and tons of software and all that goes with it. Now they are stuck keeping it up for 1,000 kids or 500.
Everyone who is on here who teachers should be able to get on their states sight and fill in some numbers to get your retirement income and it is pretty accurate. In Kansas it is based off your three highest years and there is NO COLA. Nebraska is higher but more money is put into the system there, I think 9% where as Kansas is 6% employee and a rough match by the state. Nebraska has a COLA for at least a period of time. In KS if a teacher goes back into a Kansas school the district has to pay a penalty for them working there. I could never get a legislator to tell me why they did this. I think it was to encourage job creation but schools can't find people to work many of the school jobs and it isn't just teaching.
I have serious problems (this is personal) with teachers who are lazy, sloppy, slurping coffee while teaching and who spend extra time drawing up football plays or planning practices. Yes, I was hard nosed about giving 100% to those students each and every day. My philosophy was we have 180 days to pour into those students everything we can give them and we need to teach like our hair is on fire each and every minute of those 180 days so someday they are productive members of this thing we call society. The HS won every academic award Kansas gave at the time, this was several years ago and it was all because of the teachers who were incredible - all the time and were professionals most of the time!
Classroom management is ALWAYS the biggest thing. It sucks that student teaching is the last thing college students do. They need it much sooner.
