OT: Epstein

[61bigredfan]

Haha clueless

the difference is containment. The benefit of spending money on Iraq was not great compared to what it got us. Sadaam was contained, and it’s expensive in US lives and money because we were paying US troops to do the job.

The benefit in Ukraine is greater for what that gets us. Putin is not contained, (see Georgia, etc.) so wearing down his army and resources is helpful. And we’re paying/helping Ukraine pay for its troops, which is cheaper. We are also splitting the tab with Europe. And American lives are not at stake.

 

[Huskers123456]

the difference is containment. The benefit of spending money on Iraq was not great compared to what it got us. Sadaam was contained, and it’s expensive in US lives and money because we were paying US troops to do the job.

The benefit in Ukraine is greater for what that gets us. Putin is not contained, (see Georgia, etc.) so wearing down his army and resources is helpful. And we’re paying/helping Ukraine pay for its troops, which is cheaper. We are also splitting the tab with Europe. And American lives are not at stake.

Just exposing Russia's weak ass military was alone worth the money. Putin is the classic bully, picking on weaker, hoping to never be challenged by the strong.

 

[baseball31ne]

the difference is containment. The benefit of spending money on Iraq was not great compared to what it got us. Sadaam was contained, and it’s expensive in US lives and money because we were paying US troops to do the job.

The benefit in Ukraine is greater for what that gets us. Putin is not contained, (see Georgia, etc.) so wearing down his army and resources is helpful. And we’re paying/helping Ukraine pay for its troops, which is cheaper. We are also splitting the tab with Europe. And American lives are not at stake.

What’s the split again for paying this war? Zelensky has said American soldiers have to be part of this fight as bodies in his nation are running low.

Putin sees weakness and attacks. He did it with Obama in the WH and with Biden in. He is not anything close to a good person. Zelinsky isn’t either. The love for him is crazy to me. See him as someone willing to destroy his nation to get what he wants, money and power. We will very likely disagree and that’s fine. For a leader who has the world saying he fight is to save democracy, his record doesn’t show it.

 

[baseball31ne]

What is the real story? Is the FBI withholding documents or is this some dog and pony show by the AG and DOJ? With the new administration (same as the prior), this whole thing seems contrived grandstanding and the reality is nothing will be released.

Thoughts?

Find the names of all those Maxwell sold and rented people to and put their names out there. She was convicted of a crime where no names of those who made the purchases have released. Start there.

 

[Dean Pope]

And there's another guy accused of sex trafficking (not the politician). And there's been huge payouts made to alleged victims. Turns out this perv likes to poop on his victims. Turns him on apparently. Twisted f-.

 

[Dean Pope]

What’s the split again for paying this war? Zelensky has said American soldiers have to be part of this fight as bodies in his nation are running low.

Putin sees weakness and attacks. He did it with Obama in the WH and with Biden in. He is not anything close to a good person. Zelinsky isn’t either. The love for him is crazy to me. See him as someone willing to destroy his nation to get what he wants, money and power. We will very likely disagree and that’s fine. For a leader who has the world saying he fight is to save democracy, his record doesn’t show it.

The enemy of our enemy is our friend.

 

[Huskers123456]

What’s the split again for paying this war? Zelensky has said American soldiers have to be part of this fight as bodies in his nation are running low.

Putin sees weakness and attacks. He did it with Obama in the WH and with Biden in. He is not anything close to a good person. Zelinsky isn’t either. The love for him is crazy to me. See him as someone willing to destroy his nation to get what he wants, money and power. We will very likely disagree and that’s fine. For a leader who has the world saying he fight is to save democracy, his record doesn’t show it.

Lol. Destroy his nation? They were literally invaded and our now fighting to survive as a true democracy. It hasn't even been 15 years since they ran the Putin puppet from power. That same guy is sitting in Moscow waiting to be re-installed, by Putin.

What exactly does Zelensky's record show regarding democracy? He was barely president before he was invaded by a communist dictator.

 

[61bigredfan]

Find the names of all those Maxwell sold and rented people to and put their names out there. She was convicted of a crime where no names of those who made the purchases have released. Start there.

It is beyond detestable what Maxwell and Epstein did. All those involved should be held accountable. It’s only because of the wealth and power of those involved that the information has been held up for this long.

 

[thall_]

Lol. Destroy his nation? They were literally invaded and our now fighting to survive as a true democracy. It hasn't even been 15 years since they ran the Putin puppet from power. That same guy is sitting in Moscow waiting to be re-installed, by Putin.

What exactly does Zelensky's record show regarding democracy? He was barely president before he was invaded by a communist dictator.

> "true democracy"
> jails political opponents
> stops holding elections
> rounding people up in vans to join the military

eastern bloc forever wars are none of our business, let them sort their own shit out. same with israel-palestine

 

[Huskers123456]

> "true democracy"
> jails political opponents
> stops holding elections
> rounding people up in vans to join the military

eastern bloc forever wars are none of our business, let them sort their own shit out. same with israel-palestine

Lol. This very country jailed people who weren't even political opponents in WW2. They just didn't have the right ethnicity. We also held a draft for what, 30 years?

If we do ditch Ukraine, I'm in agreement that we should ditch all foreign defense aid.