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OT: Electric cars in a hurricane/flood situation

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“Like condoms, dental dams are an easy and effective barrier method of STD protection during oral sex, but unlike condoms they are a bit of a mystery for some. The thing is, these misunderstood pieces of latex can protect you from herpes, gonorrhea, syphilis and hepatitis so they're pretty dam important.”
Well I definitely don’t have any use for that
 
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Oh shit, are we running out of oil again? Ugggg, man, I remember in 4th grade when we were running out of oil and in 6th grade and in 9th grade.

We are probably switching over to the metric system soon, right?
 
It isn't true. People that hunt wouldn't own an EV because they would know it isn't compatible with rural driving. Therefore they wouldn't rent an EV, even if one were available, which at first glance doesn't even seem like they are available in Sioux Falls. Small town story telling at it's finest. In ND they probably change the story to ducks and say they flew into Fargo. In Montana they probably change it to Elk and say Bozeman.
Hertz is sold off a ton of their EV fleet and moved the remainder to locations with better charger access.
 
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Airport construction is supplemented by federal dollars. TSA and air traffic controllers and their systems are paid for with federal dollars.
And in Nebraska anyway, airports get a lot of support from property taxes. I suppose Nebraska would be limited to just Omaha for airports if it weren't for subsidies.
 
I was in zero danger of buying one, but after having lived thru a house fire, you can bet your life there will be zero EV anything anywhere near my house. If we get a visitor who drives one over, they can park in the gawd damn street.
Living life based in irrational fear is no fun.
 
...to be fair I know gassers catch fire to. I won't pretend they don't, but without checking the stats I feel like a lot less do, and for almost no good reason.
You're right on this one. ICE cars have more fires by large, but I'm guessing the whole EV critique in this regard is due to a "per capita" effect or something.
 
Argue with the scientists lol though that would be funny to see in person.

What happens then as the reef and algae die off from acidification?

Again, CO2 does not kill algae. Along with water and sunlight, CO2 is algae’s only food source. Furthermore, the Coral Reef gets 70% of the nutrients it needs to survive from Zooxanthellae, a microscopic algae that live inside the tissues of coral polyps. The diminished numbers of aquatic plants is not a byproduct of CO2 saturation in oceanic waters, CO2 saturation is a byproduct of diminished aquatic plant life. The real problem is the polluting of our oceans. Maybe you simps on the left should stop babbling about greenhouse gases and telling everyone they should drive EV’s and hold the countries that continue to pollute the ocean's accountable. The Paris Agreement was an empty gesture, most those countries signed it and then continue to pollute at will.
 
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Not to mention all the birds they kill.
I have solar panels on my house. The stupid pigeons go under them and a couple have died. It's a pain getting those dumb things off the roof.
Seriously though, it's the height of stupidity to insist of putting all of our energy needs onto the grid as the Democrats want. Fossil fuels do provide immediate and reliable energy to move us and heat us and cook our food and fossil fuels don't fail when there is an ice storm or an EMP attack from a hostile power.
 
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Again, CO2 does not kill algae. Along with water and sunlight, CO2 is algae’s only food source. Furthermore, the Coral Reef gets 70% of the nutrients it needs to survive from Zooxanthellae, a microscopic algae that live inside the tissues of coral polyps. The diminished numbers of aquatic plants is not a byproduct of CO2 saturation in oceanic waters, CO2 saturation is a byproduct of diminished aquatic plant life. The real problem is the polluting of our oceans. Maybe you simps on the left should stop babbling about greenhouse gases and telling everyone they should drive EV’s and hold the countries that continue to pollute the ocean's accountable. The Paris Agreement was an empty gesture, most those countries signed it and then continue to pollute at will.
Exactly. 98% of the countries signed it in the expectation of receiving free money from other nations with zero obligations to do anything. Why do we care that China or India signed an accord when 90% of their power is from coal burning plants and they will never force their citizens to rely on electric vehicles?
 
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We still have tons of places in the world with no internet, with no indoor plumbing with no schools....

But the important thing is that I can plug my car in instead of using gas.
 
can't link the article because i'm to lazy to go re find it, but if its true we practically lead the civilized world with our CO2 output (15% in total is what I read), harmful everything/greenhouse gas emissions..basically all the terrible shit everyone pollutes the earth with....and that if we cut it even further to say, zero...it would have the same effect on world pollution, zero, because that's how far down the totem pole we are when it come to this issue...and the irony is, we are enriching terrible countries that DGAF about ppolluting the enviroment by buying the shit they rape the earth to make the damn things...again, if you have one more power to ya, i ain't suggesting they should be outlawed, i just don't understand the logic behind the line of thinking you are saving the planet or why you want to enrich china the more i read about it
 
can't link the article because i'm to lazy to go re find it, but if its true we practically lead the civilized world with our CO2 output (15% in total is what I read), harmful everything/greenhouse gas emissions..basically all the terrible shit everyone pollutes the earth with....and that if we cut it even further to say, zero...it would have the same effect on world pollution, zero, because that's how far down the totem pole we are when it come to this issue...and the irony is, we are enriching terrible countries that DGAF about ppolluting the enviroment by buying the shit they rape the earth to make the damn things...again, if you have one more power to ya, i ain't suggesting they should be outlawed, i just don't understand the logic behind the line of thinking you are saving the planet or why you want to enrich china the more i read about it

The thing is, they throw that 15% number out there and that number looks huge. Currently the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is 421 ppm, that is 0.04% of the atmosphere. The earths atmosphere is made up of 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, 0.9% Argon, and 0.1% other gases. CO2 is such a small number it gets lumped in the 0.1% of other gases.
 
Again, CO2 does not kill algae. Along with water and sunlight, CO2 is algae’s only food source. Furthermore, the Coral Reef gets 70% of the nutrients it needs to survive from Zooxanthellae, a microscopic algae that live inside the tissues of coral polyps. The diminished numbers of aquatic plants is not a byproduct of CO2 saturation in oceanic waters, CO2 saturation is a byproduct of diminished aquatic plant life. The real problem is the polluting of our oceans. Maybe you simps on the left should stop babbling about greenhouse gases and telling everyone they should drive EV’s and hold the countries that continue to pollute the ocean's accountable. The Paris Agreement was an empty gesture, most those countries signed it and then continue to pollute at will.
You were doing so great until toward the end there. Agreed on part A for the most part (aquatic plants are somewhat different from land based plant life after all) and as for politics in your part B there...

Let's just say the same party that supports polluting the skies also supports polluting the ocean. Either way, not worthy of our votes until they adjust with the reality that's set before us.
 
Exactly. 98% of the countries signed it in the expectation of receiving free money from other nations with zero obligations to do anything. Why do we care that China or India signed an accord when 90% of their power is from coal burning plants and they will never force their citizens to rely on electric vehicles?
Actually China is paving the way with solar and sequestering carbon from their use of coal. Of course certain areas/cities are still terrible... But it's in the works and is pretty fascinating really.
 
The thing is, they throw that 15% number out there and that number looks huge. Currently the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is 421 ppm, that is 0.04% of the atmosphere. The earths atmosphere is made up of 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, 0.9% Argon, and 0.1% other gases. CO2 is such a small number it gets lumped in the 0.1% of other gases.
Would love to see your source btw, if you don't mind.
 
Probably ChatGPT just like everything these days
Good chance I'm sure lol.

I personally lean more towards the professionals who do this as their job day in and day out

 
Good chance I'm sure lol.

I personally lean more towards the professionals who do this as their job day in and day out

Be wary of consensus. See COVID-19 vaccines for reference point. It’s all about the dollars. No dollars equals no research equals no job.
 
Would love to see your source btw, if you don't mind.
Take your pick, there are many sites you can go to to get those percentages and most have handy little pie charts showing the breakdown.

Center for Science Education

EarthHow

There are many others you can look up. Two gases in the atmosphere in particular, water vapor and CO2, are very important. Without them the earth’s average surface temperature would be 0 degrees Fahrenheit. Earth emits infrared radiation and those two gases trap and absorb that energy, then release half of it into space and half back to earth, keeping earth’s average temperature at 59 degrees Fahrenheit.

Over its life Earth’s climate has cycled between glacial and interglacial. We are in an interglacial period, which is signified by rising temperatures and the melting of glaciers.
 
irrational would be never having your house set on fire by somebody else and saying what I just said...rational is having lived thru it and now you double check everything that has a flame or is capable of producing one.
I know somebody that their house burned to ground because he stored propane tanks in his garage. Are you that dumb @ss?
 
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Jeep is just a bad brand period. My ex wife bought a brand new Jeep Cherokee in 2016 and the engine literally blew up at 16k miles. They asked if we wanted a new one and we said nope and she got a 2014 Honda Pilot with 40k miles on it instead and she had that vehicle till it hit 130k and sold it in 2021 with no problem.

Jeep makes good looking vehicles with good suspension, but severely lack in the main part of a vehicle and that is the engine.
 
Mine is in a carport. Am I half nuts?
At least. I’ve seen an EV still burning. Literally it was so hot it was just a blob of melted steel…. The fire department closed the road and just let it burn for hours. There’s no way to put it out.
 
Jeep is just a bad brand period. My ex wife bought a brand new Jeep Cherokee in 2016 and the engine literally blew up at 16k miles. They asked if we wanted a new one and we said nope and she got a 2014 Honda Pilot with 40k miles on it instead and she had that vehicle till it hit 130k and sold it in 2021 with no problem.

Jeep makes good looking vehicles with good suspension, but severely lack in the main part of a vehicle and that is the engine.
I’ve owned 5 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland editions. LOVED them. 2 of them we kept to about 100k miles with zero problems. Never even had to do brakes on them. My wife finally insisted she want something different so I bought her a Lincoln Nautilus. It’s a nice commuter but I preferred the Jeeps.
 
At least. I’ve seen an EV still burning. Literally it was so hot it was just a blob of melted steel…. The fire department closed the road and just let it burn for hours. There’s no way to put it out.
I am not discounting your experience, but I live in AZ and Teslas are everywhere. It's crazy the number I see each day. I've not seen one broken down, let alone burning roadside. It could be that I am not paying attention to the news, but I don't hear about spontaneous combustion either.

For the record, I am not trying to save the environment. Their tech is cool and they are very quick...those are the only reasons I have one.
 
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I am not discounting your experience, but I live in AZ and Teslas are everywhere. It's crazy the number I see each day. I've not seen one broken down, let alone burning roadside. It could be that I am not paying attention to the news, but I don't hear about spontaneous combustion either.

For the record, I am not trying to save the environment. Their tech is cool and they are very quick...those are the only reasons I have one.
I see tons of them here in Omaha.

I have also never seen one start on fire.
 
All Tesla fires occur on Youtube
I will have to look those up! Ha


I have seen the Cybertrucks a few times and I sort of think they are awesome looking because Road Warrior is one of my favorite movies and it reminds me of that.
 
For the record, I am not trying to save the environment. Their tech is cool and they are very quick...those are the only reasons I have one.

Totally get that. Some Tesla's are cool AF.

My FIL has a 2021 Vette, I was visiting him last year in Denver, he let me take it for a spin and a Tesla tried to pick a fight with me at a stoplight fairly far out of city limits, we could went with zero fear of cops....even I knew I woulda got killed. I know what ludricous mode means...it means I lose!!! ....so I declined..haha

I've seen videos of what the Cybertruck can do offroad in Moab and was floored. Had no idea.
 
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