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OT: don't find my wife as attractive anymore

We are programmed to want to procreate with as many woman as possible and monogamy is not our nature. Woman want to be with the best possible guy she can get and will stay loyal as long as a better guy doesn't come around. If she's above average she has lots of guys hit on her every week so you have to be the alpha.

My soon to be ex is a good looking woman even after 2 kids and what really helped me keep the desire is to stop or severely limit masturbating. If you can go a week you're ready to screw anything and will be encouraged to do extra to satisfy your woman.

FYI I'm going through a separation after 9 years of marriage because she said she was unhappy and started talking to more of her "feminist, no man & lots of cats" friends. 70% of marriages are ended by woman. If I had to do the marriage over again I'd of taken some of the opportunities I had to cheat and make sure she never found out.
 
What ummm...what kind of porn are some of you watching that are you thinking it causes a problem?
 


The crazy/hot matrix always applies...

I started online dating after my divorce and I had never heard of this matrix.....I ran into a cute girl online who actually posted that in her profile and swore she was a great mix of both so I reached out and don't remember what I said exactly but I'm certain it was really clever and funny....she replied back and called me by my entire name (I had not given it to her yet so I went ????) Turns out she was best friends with my twin sister all through school, and even borrowed my older sisters dress for her prom, and she had changed so much I did not recognize her. Talk about a small world. We never did go out cause she was Facebook friends with my now dead at and it was to weird for her.......women.
 
A little OT but the joke is classic:
A groom waits at the altar with a huge smile on his face. His best man asks, "Why do you look so excited?" The groom replies, "I just had the best blow job I have ever had in my entire life, and I am marrying the wonderful woman who gave it to me." The bride waits at the other end of the aisle with a huge smile on her face. Her maid of honor asks, "Why do you look so excited?" The bride replies, "I just gave the last blow job of my entire life."

FYI I didn't get many bj's during my marriage but I did when I got a hot young assistant and she was worried I'd cheat on her.
 
so, I've only been married for about 3 years, and notice that even though my wife is very attractive, I seem to have gotten tired of her or something.

how do I rekindle that feeling?

or is it just better to find and keep a new mistress on the side?
Just go browse all of the skanks on Tinder within 10 years of your age range. You'll quickly understand why they are either single, cuck bait, poly or other whacked out stuff.

Your wife will be back to a 10 in no time.
 
I started online dating after my divorce and I had never heard of this matrix.....I ran into a cute girl online who actually posted that in her profile and swore she was a great mix of both so I reached out and don't remember what I said exactly but I'm certain it was really clever and funny....she replied back and called me by my entire name (I had not given it to her yet so I went ????) Turns out she was best friends with my twin sister all through school, and even borrowed my older sisters dress for her prom, and she had changed so much I did not recognize her. Talk about a small world. We never did go out cause she was Facebook friends with my now dead at and it was to weird for her.......women.
OT but what sites have you found work for you. FYI I just turned 40 with a good job and slightly above average in looks but I need to lose around 15lbs. I just joined a few to get myself out again and am only getting likes from the large or older women.
 
We are programmed to want to procreate with as many woman as possible and monogamy is not our nature. Woman want to be with the best possible guy she can get and will stay loyal as long as a better guy doesn't come around. If she's above average she has lots of guys hit on her every week so you have to be the alpha.

My soon to be ex is a good looking woman even after 2 kids and what really helped me keep the desire is to stop or severely limit masturbating. If you can go a week you're ready to screw anything and will be encouraged to do extra to satisfy your woman.

FYI I'm going through a separation after 9 years of marriage because she said she was unhappy and started talking to more of her "feminist, no man & lots of cats" friends. 70% of marriages are ended by woman. If I had to do the marriage over again I'd of taken some of the opportunities I had to cheat and make sure she never found out.
I think you're speaking a lot of truth.. esp the psychology of women.. sorry to hear about your separation. The only thing that I have learned is to demonstrate the ability and willingness to leave the relationship at any time.

Something someone else said, made a lot of sense later on.. while she may hold the keys to sex, it is the guy that holds the keys to the relationship.
 
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nah man.. relationship is good.. she lives on the other side of the world right now for her job, so I only get to see her once or twice a year in person.

I think it's just the normal thing that happens after a few years of marriage.. we don't talk about sex as much as we used to, and it's always the same routine when we do type thing.

If she's living on the other side of the world and is a good looking woman I would imagine she has cheated or will cheat on you soon. I would hire someone to investigate her to see if she's staying faithful. Women can't help but be ho's when left by themselves.
 
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But she did croak shortly thereafter, so there's that.
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What ummm...what kind of porn are some of you watching that are you thinking it causes a problem?
It wasn't my idea to draw the correlation, I actually wanted to believe the opposite since I am what you would call an enthusiast. But there has been quite a bit of data on it and like any other "vice" it has the potential for people to abuse it and develop bad patterns. It rewires your brain the way most other kinds of rapid-fire stimulus do. It's different today even from 30 years ago when you had to buy videos or skin mags. There's an endless supply and it's instantly available.

And purely from a logical standpoint as we get older you're not gonna be going several times a day like when you were a teenager. So if you spend that day's "allowance" online don't be surprised when there's not a ton of wild male energy left over for wifey.
 
OT but what sites have you found work for you. FYI I just turned 40 with a good job and slightly above average in looks but I need to lose around 15lbs. I just joined a few to get myself out again and am only getting likes from the large or older women.

If you online date for more than a few months you'll find they all contain pretty much the exact same people. 80% of people who online use Plenty of Fish cause it's free, and Match, who owns Plenty of Fish. You'll also find you have to send about 20 messages to 20 different girls (I assume you're after girls) to get one reply. Attractive women online get hit up when they first join at a rate of about 150 guys in their first 48hrs...so good luck with that one. Online dating is tough, but it can pay off for some. I met a lot of great women, had a few great relationships, stayed friends with a lady who is still doing it and has been for years with no luck at all. Fact is, if you don't look like Brad Pitt, you're not going to generate a lot of interest from the more attractive ladies. The girl I have been with for near 10 months now joined Match, her first foray into online ever, and had 180 guys hit her up in 48hrs...I was the only one she chose to reply to and we hit it off. But that was a one in a million. Some people think the laws of physics cease to apply in online and what I mean is "I'm online, she's online, she'll want to date me"...and 5's hit up 9's....and never hear anything back.
 
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26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
 
Not sure if serious...but I'll respond as though it is.

Yes, that's a very common thing to have happen. Couples tend to fall into predictable patterns and those can get boring. My wife is more attractive to me than ever, but I still get weary of how routine all the lead-in becomes. The lack of spontaneity in particular becomes a grind. Especially if you have kids it becomes easy to get into a schedule of doing it the same way on the same day.

If you're a consumer of porn be very careful. There is a lot of data that shows it can get you into an accelerating, vicious cycle. And it comes at the expense of your partner, she's always the same person who does it the same way, meanwhile google can find you anything your heart desires as well as a bunch of stuff you didn't even know existed.

If she's in a contest against every other girl on pornhub, that's a contest she can never win.

There's actually a serious problem in the world right now of all these dudes who grew up on internet porn and they have these VERY skewed and unhealthy ideas about what sex is actually supposed to be like. They don't know how to listen, communicate, try new things, they just know how to mimic what they've seen in videos. Spoiler alert: a lot of "real" women do not want the thing from the video done to them. Certainly not without a conversation first.

And these dudes also don't have the attention span for a normal, in-person, sexual encounter. Their brain is so trained to search through videos and skip to the best parts that the worst addicts actually can't get aroused at a normal pace by normal stuff any more. They need to speed cycle through increasingly-edgy stuff to feel excited.

So if that's going on, you need to dial it back. Stop wanking it to every chick on the internet for a few days and suddenly you'll be shocked at how much your interest in your own wife is renewed.

I am actually guilty of needing to have a conversation with my wife as well. She doesn't initiate in ways that make me feel desirable, she only knows how to be pursued. So her version of initiating is to make a comment about how we should have sex or to wear something a little more provocative, but it's always me who has to "go and get" her. I have to be the one who makes the actual first move.

First world problems, waaaaaa my hot wife encourages me to jump her instead of the other way around. But after a while it grates on my nerves. I shouldn't have to go somewhere and catch other women checking me out to feel like I still got it. I want to be validated at home. But instead of manning up and asking her for that, I have avoided the conversation like a big baby so nothing has changed so far.

That's a need that I have, I need to feel like I'm attractive to be able to really get in there and perform. Dunno if that's right or wrong, that's just how I am, I don't want to always be the one doing the chasing. Once in a while as a dude you want to feel like your lady wants to get

You need to start by understanding what works for you. What can you ask her for that you DO think is sexy and that will help you both feel like you're desirable? And it might be a conversation that you have with the help of a couples counselor. Because no offense, I don't get the impression that you're equipped right now with the skills to have that talk without you both getting your feelings hurt.

The counseling will help you both express yourselves in a way that gets to the good rather than just starting a fight. I promise you that if you do nothing and just sit in silence and obsess about it, you're going to find that it gets worse.

That was a good and very thoughtful post and spot on. The sooner guys figure out that women are like a slow cooker whereas they are like a microwave, the better it will get. If you're unwilling to put in the time to talk to, pursue, and make your wife feel wanted, you can count on your own needs suffering. Even then oh, it can still be tricky as some partners just lose desire. I feel sorry for them because that's a tough hill to climb
 
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okay, this was meant to be a lighthearted thread, but some have taken this in a much more serious tone than was intended.. this was locker room talk only. I thought it would be something more unifying after all the political threads and hoped we could all share in what life is like after marriage. It was not meant to judge other people or generate that type of feedback, so please if you are upset at something you see in here, my apologies and understand it was not meant to be taken at face value.
 
OT but what sites have you found work for you. FYI I just turned 40 with a good job and slightly above average in looks but I need to lose around 15lbs. I just joined a few to get myself out again and am only getting likes from the large or older women.

Based off my experience, where I re-entered that realm in my late 30's:

Match or e Harmony are probably your best bet for "normalish" women seeking someone more "squared-away" than another cute badboy. Still lots of skanks and drama queens, but some very nice ladies to be had.

Plenty of Fish & Ok cupid: Stop, No and DON'T.

Tinder: Tons of skanks and drama queens, but also your best bet if you have the insatiable urge to have your nuts hanging out the side of a female. Balls deep and all that other stuff. You definitely need to have some game or be more attractive, as it's more based on physical attraction, than gaining attention with intellect and charm. It also helps if you have a big meatstick, in case you have the face only a dog mom can love. I would also be careful as to where you put your meatstick, because it is such a small world and you would be surprised who knows whom, etc. Cast a wider radius when looking (50-100 miles) so you don't end up crapping where you eat. There are a few relationship-minded women, key word, a few. Also, finding women fresh off a separation or divorce is almost a guaranteed playdate if you have any sort of game and just listen to them cry or complain.

Nothing wrong with large or older women if you need some relief. In most cases, beauty is only a light switch away, especially until you lose that 15lbs or realize what you really want and are more of a "finished product" in terms of physique and mindset.

With online dating, most of the older or larger ones will hunt us down, no matter how cute or great we think we are. Also, in the realm of online dating, 4's and 5's think they are 10's and the ones we think are 10's are like Elizabeth Hurley or (insert dream crush here), because of the ratio of men to women. Even the 4's and 5's have their inboxes flooded by thirsty men on the daily. It comes down to a numbers game and how much BS you are willing to tolerate and what you really want in the short and long-term.
 
OT but what sites have you found work for you. FYI I just turned 40 with a good job and slightly above average in looks but I need to lose around 15lbs. I just joined a few to get myself out again and am only getting likes from the large or older women.
Tinder
Bumble
Hinge
 
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Based off my experience, where I re-entered that realm in my late 30's:

Match or e Harmony are probably your best bet for "normalish" women seeking someone more "squared-away" than another cute badboy. Still lots of skanks and drama queens, but some very nice ladies to be had.

Plenty of Fish & Ok cupid: Stop, No and DON'T.

Tinder: Tons of skanks and drama queens, but also your best bet if you have the insatiable urge to have your nuts hanging out the side of a female. Balls deep and all that other stuff. You definitely need to have some game or be more attractive, as it's more based on physical attraction, than gaining attention with intellect and charm. It also helps if you have a big meatstick, in case you have the face only a dog mom can love. I would also be careful as to where you put your meatstick, because it is such a small world and you would be surprised who knows whom, etc. Cast a wider radius when looking (50-100 miles) so you don't end up crapping where you eat. There are a few relationship-minded women, key word, a few. Also, finding women fresh off a separation or divorce is almost a guaranteed playdate if you have any sort of game and just listen to them cry or complain.

Nothing wrong with large or older women if you need some relief. In most cases, beauty is only a light switch away, especially until you lose that 15lbs or realize what you really want and are more of a "finished product" in terms of physique and mindset.

With online dating, most of the older or larger ones will hunt us down, no matter how cute or great we think we are. Also, in the realm of online dating, 4's and 5's think they are 10's and the ones we think are 10's are like Elizabeth Hurley or (insert dream crush here), because of the ratio of men to women. Even the 4's and 5's have their inboxes flooded by thirsty men on the daily. It comes down to a numbers game and how much BS you are willing to tolerate and what you really want in the short and long-term.


Geeze...that is some serious hate on Tinder! ha
 
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Clearly I'm the only one that can see that the OP is talking about Scott Frost and whether he should start rooting for another team.

To which I say, marriage is forever, and the sour times make the sweet times sweeter. Remember why you fell in love in the first place. Go watch videos from the 70s, 80s, and 90s on YouTube and you'll be OK.
 
okay, this was meant to be a lighthearted thread, but some have taken this in a much more serious tone than was intended.. this was locker room talk only. I thought it would be something more unifying after all the political threads and hoped we could all share in what life is like after marriage. It was not meant to judge other people or generate that type of feedback, so please if you are upset at something you see in here, my apologies and understand it was not meant to be taken at face value.
Its a topic that hits home for a lot of people. No way to make it lighthearted unfortunately.

Personally, I've given up on getting serious with women completely. Not worth the drama. Hang out, play cards, goof off......fine. Serious or sexual relationship.......count me out.
 
If she likes you too much, you get bored. And vice versa...if you like a hot girl you're dating too much (and you're nice and apologize and all that), she will be bored.
 
Its a topic that hits home for a lot of people. No way to make it lighthearted unfortunately.

Personally, I've given up on getting serious with women completely. Not worth the drama. Hang out, play cards, goof off......fine. Serious or sexual relationship.......count me out.

.....but your screen name is crazyhole, are you telling me it doesn't mean what I thought it meant this whole time???
 
so, I've only been married for about 3 years, and notice that even though my wife is very attractive, I seem to have gotten tired of her or something.

how do I rekindle that feeling?

or is it just better to find and keep a new mistress on the side?

Iowa fan pontificating here, so hopefully you will not discount the source, but I will just say that skydiving is the same way as monogamy. For the first 100 jumps or so, I thought I had died and gone to heaven (like in the early stages of a physical relationship). After 200 jumps, it's like, oh, now I have to pack that damn chute again & get up there and jump and go home. The thrill is gone. (had an F-14 pilot tell me the exact same thing, and I have never ever flown an airplane, but I believe him)

kind of a weird analogy, but, hey, it's just life, Dude.
 
.....but your screen name is crazyhole, are you telling me it doesn't mean what I thought it meant this whole time???
It's actually a reference to the late, great Clint Howard's character in "The Waterboy". If not for the filters it would be crazya_-hole. Ive been using this login name for 20 years and nobody has asked until now, so props.
 
Clearly I'm the only one that can see that the OP is talking about Scott Frost and whether he should start rooting for another team.

To which I say, marriage is forever, and the sour times make the sweet times sweeter. Remember why you fell in love in the first place. Go watch videos from the 70s, 80s, and 90s on YouTube and you'll be OK.
In this case, it might be time for the nagging wife to move on.
 
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Always reminds me of a great joke...

16 year old is with his father at the drug store, father and son approach the condoms area, son sees the the single package. Father says that is for when you are your age. One for the night. Son sees the 3 pack and says what is this for, dad replies, that is for when you are in college, one for each night, Friday, Saturday and Sunday..Son sees the 12 pack and says what about this one? Dad says that is for when you get married.......January, February .......December.
 
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