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OT- DC commercial plane and Blackhawk collide

Unfortunately found out this weekend that a very nice lady I know lost her daughter in the DC crash. Very bright young woman. Incredibly sad situation as she saw the breaking news on television and knew her daughter was on the flight.
Yeah that's rough 😕 😞 😔
 
Unfortunately found out this weekend that a very nice lady I know lost her daughter in the DC crash. Very bright young woman. Incredibly sad situation as she saw the breaking news on television and knew her daughter was on the flight.
Ya that has to horrible.
 
If it is truly about border security then it will absolutely work. How do I know this? Because they already offered to meet and figure out how to increase border security but we ignored them. They offered up multiple solutions.
They offered up solutions that fit their ideology. Both leaders of those countries are progressives and offered left leaning solutions. Now both countries are pledging money and/or troops to avoid the additional tariffs. Art of the deal 101
 
They offered up solutions that fit their ideology. Both leaders of those countries are progressives and offered left leaning solutions. Now both countries are pledging money and/or troops to avoid the additional tariffs. Art of the deal 101
Did they not offer up a joint task force and increased agents before? What is "left" about that?
 
Did they not offer up a joint task force and increased agents before? What is "left" about that?
Those leaders offered solutions that were more beneficial to their country than the US.. Just as any other leader would. Neither you or I know what the actual deal or proposal stated. The president clearly did and obviously it wasn’t enough of a commitment for him, so he placed the tariffs. it is just that simple.
 
Unfortunately found out this weekend that a very nice lady I know lost her daughter in the DC crash. Very bright young woman. Incredibly sad situation as she saw the breaking news on television and knew her daughter was on the flight.
horrible. We have to get to the bottom of all the contributing factors and eliminate them so nothing like this happens again.
 
Those leaders offered solutions that were more beneficial to their country than the US.. Just as any other leader would. Neither you or I know what the actual deal or proposal stated. The president clearly did and obviously it wasn’t enough of a commitment for him, so he placed the tariffs. it is just that simple.
If that is true, which I doubt, then good for us. I think they could have got that agreement without all the drama, but you are correct. You and I won't know. I hope it's over because I personally enjoy the lax border policy we have for citizens of both countries.
 
We refine their oil for them since they don't have the refineries

There was nothing vague. And you can make improvements in protocol, but it doesn't change where the responsibility of this lies.

Helicopters shouldn't be running missions in Class B, C or D airspace. Absolving the military of this is supporting them continuing this insanity.
We refine their oil for them since they don't have the refineries

There was nothing vague. And you can make improvements in protocol, but it doesn't change where the responsibility of this lies.

Helicopters shouldn't be running missions in Class B, C or D airspace. Absolving the military of this is supporting them continuing this insanity.
Where did I say I’m absolving the military? Hence, there wasn’t a single point of failure. I’m guessing you’ve never flown. Do you have the CRJ insight, and directions to follow that traffic when there was a plane taking off, at night, is absolutely not clear.
 
We refine their oil for them since they don't have the refineries

There was nothing vague. And you can make improvements in protocol, but it doesn't change where the responsibility of this lies.

Helicopters shouldn't be running missions in Class B, C or D airspace. Absolving the military of this is supporting them continuing this insanity.
Where did I say I’m absolving the military? Hence, there wasn’t a single point of failure. I’m guessing you’ve never flown. Do you have the CRJ insight, and directions to follow that traffic when there was a plane taking off, at night, is absolutely not clear.
 
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Where did I say I’m absolving the military? Hence, there wasn’t a single point of failure. I’m guessing you’ve never flown. Do you have the CRJ insight, and directions to follow that traffic when there was a plane taking off, at night, is absolutely not clear.
It must have been clear to the helicopter because they never asked for clarification.
 
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This is probably a little above your level, so try to stay with me. Your guy is upset because we have a trade deficit with Canada. Why do we have a trade deficit? Because we need the resources they have for our economy. We absolutely need to get along with them.
When is the last time the US had a trade surplus with Canada? What existing tariffs that Canada has on US goods are the good ones that make the trade relationship a good one?
 
When is the last time the US had a trade surplus with Canada? What existing tariffs that Canada has on US goods are the good ones that make the trade relationship a good one?
The trade agreement was negotiated and signed by the current president. What sense does it make to start fighting over something he created? Did the trade deficit get worse since 2020?

Also, if trade was the issue, why not start off by trying to negotiate a new deal before going off and threatening tarrifs?
 
The trade agreement was negotiated and signed by the current president. What sense does it make to start fighting over something he created? Did the trade deficit get worse since 2020?

Also, if trade was the issue, why not start off by trying to negotiate a new deal before going off and threatening tarrifs?
This wasn’t really about trade. Keep up. It’s about immigration and border security. Canada let’s just about everybody in.
 
Well that changes a lot of narratives if true.

It’s not completely true and his statement is disingenuous at best. May have already been stated but they have not recovered the flight recorder from the chopper. Flight recorders are considered the most accurate and reliable measure of altitude, speed etc… The flight recorder on the air jet says it was at 325 feet when it struck the helicopter. Now… The records from the air traffic control tower say the helicopter was at 200 ft. So currently there is a 125 foot discrepancy between the plane’s flight data recorder and the tower records. The gov’t has yet to provide an explanation for this 125 foot discrepancy and is waiting for the flight data from the blackhawk to hopefully clear things up.

Remember, the flight data recorder is considered the most accurate record available.
 
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But the dude you are replying to like the relaxed rules on border security.
I occassionally fish in Canada. I think it's awesome that our neighbor and friend let's thousands of Amercians fish in Canada for cheap. Americans can even fish in Canadian border waters without a passport or going through customs. That benefits Amercians more than Canadians and I would hate to see that shut down over something that could be resolved without a bunch of drama.
 
The trade agreement was negotiated and signed by the current president. What sense does it make to start fighting over something he created? Did the trade deficit get worse since 2020?

Also, if trade was the issue, why not start off by trying to negotiate a new deal before going off and threatening tarrifs?
Didn’t say it was about trade alone. Are all the tariffs of Canada onto US goods within the 2020 agreement?

Putting pressure on a country that relies on US goods more than we rely on theirs into the US is a good thing to get concessions for things like enforcing border security, something the nation should already be doing.
 
This is probably a little above your level, so try to stay with me. Your guy is upset because we have a trade deficit with Canada. Why do we have a trade deficit? Because we need the resources they have for our economy. We absolutely need to get along with them.
Lmao. Canada will cave to whatever he wants.
Regardless, you believe tariffs are good for the US? Just trying to figure out where some of you stand.
Every country tariffs the hell out of us. Canada tariffs the hell out of us. It’s sad the media lies for foreign interests and we have citizens so daft because of it that they hate their country. The entire media complex is guilty of treason
 
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It must have been clear to the helicopter because they never asked for clarification.
Yeah. It’s was perfectly clear to the helo. They saw the inbound CRJ and the pilot said, hold my beer, check this shit out and ran right into it. That makes perfect sense.
 
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