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OT- DC commercial plane and Blackhawk collide

Not out of the realm of possibility. China has secret police stations here and flew a balloon over our country. Them using drones would make sense.

Where he ignore the pilot of the Blackhawk ignored 200 foot ceiling rule?
Never said it wasn't a possibility. Claiming it happened while 2 different groups said differently would make that a conspiracy to hide that fact. Thus, a conspiracy theory.

He keeps talking in circles. Saying he didn't say something when he clearly did. Then trying to play his words and say he was only speculating. I'm just keeping the bullshit in check.
 
Sorry to be blunt...I hate ever generalizing someone, but if you're consumer of stuff like this or worst spreading stuff like this, you're a POS or at a minimum severely brainwashed.

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It appears that way but the instructions from the controller were problematic as well. The instruction to “fly behind” at night with two planes in the immediate area wasn’t good. Wouldn’t the controller have their (the chopper) elevation.? The military chopper I saw on Tuesday in that exact area couldn’t have been more than 200’ over the river. It’s been determined that one controller was manning 2 positions at the time of the crash. I’m not going to comment on their sexes because the photo I saw pictures of one left some question.
You keep clinging to this fly behind instruction but yet don't mention the chopper pilot said he had visual and then asked for visual separation. Sure looking like the chopper was wrong and the military should be sued by the families
 
You keep clinging to this fly behind instruction but yet don't mention the chopper pilot said he had visual and then asked for visual separation. Sure looking like the chopper was wrong and the military should be sued by the families
Yep it’s not the controllers fault if the chopper is eyeing the wrong plane. It’s a tragedy but in the end the military is responsible.
 
Sorry to be blunt...I hate ever generalizing someone, but if you're consumer of stuff like this or worst spreading stuff like this, you're a POS or at a minimum severely brainwashed.

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Ya, humans are stupid and the worst. Always have been, always will be. Now they just have the ability to share it with the world.
 
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You’re wrong.
how . The chopper pilot asked for and received visual separation. The tower asked multiple times if he saw the Plane in question he answered yes every time. Once it’s granted it’s the choppers baby . I think they were talking two different planes but again it’s the choppers baby . And tje chopper was nearly 200 ft above the legal flying level at the time of impact. Have a nice evening.
 

The pilot.

No way they didn't know they shouldn't be above 200 ft before take off.

No way.

Look at the video. There is no way they did not see that plane, night vision or not. No.change of direction not even at the last minute. The plane behind it is not even in sight of the plane that hit.

Like I said provide actual proof and Im good
 
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The pilot.

No way they didn't know they shouldn't be above 200 ft before take off.

No way.

Look at the video. There is no way they did not see that plane, night vision or not. No.change of direction not even at the last minute. The plane behind it is not even in sight of the plane that hit.

Like I said provide actual proof and Im good
Odd they haven’t/wont released the female pilots name
 
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Sorry to be blunt...I hate ever generalizing someone, but if you're consumer of stuff like this or worst spreading stuff like this, you're a POS or at a minimum severely brainwashed.

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Are you so weak you’d let others opinions hurt you? Who cares if people say stupid things? I honestly can’t stand brainwashed idiots that want to censor others because you’re scared of some sacred collective hive mind it might disturb.

A helicopter was flying directly where a plane was about to land on a runway. There should be some questions. Anyone saying there shouldn’t be are the brainwashed idiots
 
Are you so weak you’d let others opinions hurt you? Who cares if people say stupid things? I honestly can’t stand brainwashed idiots that want to censor others because you’re scared of some sacred collective hive mind it might disturb.

A helicopter was flying directly where a plane was about to land on a runway. There should be some questions. Anyone saying there shouldn’t be are the brainwashed idiots
No. Opinions don't hurt me. What an odd thing to say. Did my opinion hurt you?

Let's ask 2 basic humanity questions:

1) Do you think saying they this accident never happened, despite a plethora of video evidence otherwise and tons of testimony to it is hurtful to the families of the victims?

2) Do you feel like there's any "opinion" that is out of bounds when someone lost someone in such a horrific fashion?

It's odd that you want to suppress opinions you claim are suppressing opinions.

They have every right to their opinion just as I have the right to my opinion that thinks their disregard for the victims of this tragedy means their opinion makes them a horrible human being.
 
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The pilot.

No way they didn't know they shouldn't be above 200 ft before take off.

No way.

Look at the video. There is no way they did not see that plane, night vision or not. No.change of direction not even at the last minute. The plane behind it is not even in sight of the plane that hit.

Like I said provide actual proof and Im good
Provide actual proof it was on purpose. Not I've seen video so I know exactly what happened. This from the crowd whitewashing an attack on the Capitol despite video evidence.
 
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Are you so weak you’d let others opinions hurt you? Who cares if people say stupid things? I honestly can’t stand brainwashed idiots that want to censor others because you’re scared of some sacred collective hive mind it might disturb.

A helicopter was flying directly where a plane was about to land on a runway. There should be some questions. Anyone saying there shouldn’t be are the brainwashed idiots
Asking questions about how and saying it didn't happen are totally different. How crazy do you have to be to think that? So many people out there with mental problems.
 
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Typical response, my nonsense is just as bad as the one I responded to but yet you respond to me. Too easy to hook the mob on here. Try living more in the middle
Poor guy. Sorry, I don’t respond to every stupid post, I hope you don’t take it too personally, but well done on identifying me as part of the mob. You clowns who pretend you’re enlightened because you dont belong to a “group” are the funniest. Try living more in the middle? I do, I support the party that is much more moderate. These days, the “middle” would be fairly left of center, so “no,” not a chance. I know that’s a lot to process, so take your time in working through it.
 
No. Opinions don't hurt me. What an odd thing to say. Did my opinion hurt you?

Let's ask 2 basic humanity questions:

1) Do you think saying they this accident never happened, despite a plethora of video evidence otherwise and tons of testimony to it is hurtful to the families of the victims?

2) Do you feel like there's any "opinion" that is out of bounds when someone lost someone in such a horrific fashion?

It's odd that you want to suppress opinions you claim are suppressing opinions.

They have every right to their opinion just as I have the right to my opinion that thinks their disregard for the victims of this tragedy means their opinion makes them a horrible human being.
No, why do you assume people are so feeble? What would the opinion of an idiot matter to a victim?

You’re the one suppressing opinions here. Not me. You’re the one trying to deny questions.
 
No, why do you assume people are so feeble? What would the opinion of an idiot matter to a victim?

You’re the one suppressing opinions here. Not me. You’re the one trying to deny questions.
I like how you can't answer the questions.

I'm not suppressing anything. Just calling out horrible people
 
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Asking questions about how and saying it didn't happen are totally different. How crazy do you have to be to think that? So many people out there with mental problems.
They may or may not be crazy. People see all things differently and take information differently. I actually applaud them for not worrying what others think and questioning narratives, no matter how stupid you may think it is. There’s a fine line you’re towing. Whether you see it or not is up to you
 
I like how you can't answer the questions.

I'm not suppressing anything. Just calling out horrible people
Your questions are rather stupid, the irony here is amazing. You are suppressing them. How you can’t see that is your fault.
 
No, why do you assume people are so feeble? What would the opinion of an idiot matter to a victim?

You’re the one suppressing opinions here. Not me. You’re the one trying to deny questions.
So let me get this straight. This plane accident happens.everyone is watching on TV the breaking news . This person posts on social media that it’s basically fake news . You don’t think that’s a problem?
 
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Provide actual proof it was on purpose. Not I've seen video so I know exactly what happened. This from the crowd whitewashing an attack on the Capitol despite video evidence.

No I'm saying I believe it was on purpose based on video seen and pilot errors.

The pilot made 2 errors off the bat. What's the odds of that?

No attempt ever to miss that plane they could literally see out the window. At least a last minute jerk of surprise.

There was none of that.
 
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They may or may not be crazy. People see all things differently and take information differently. I actually applaud them for not worrying what others think and questioning narratives, no matter how stupid you may think it is. There’s a fine line you’re towing. Whether you see it or not is up to you
They don't worry about what others think because they are literally crazy. That is not seeing things differently. That is being detached from reality.

The "nothing wrong with questioning" crowd always brings that up, but ignores that these people aren't questioning, but rather saying definitively that it didn't happen.

Any group I'm interacting with, conspiracy theory guy is always the dumbest and poorest. Doesn't matter if it's family, friends, work, kids sports, etc. The people that latch onto this craziness are easy targets, along with the mentally ill. It's why social media is ruining this country.
 
Not out of the realm of possibility. China has secret police stations here and flew a balloon over our country. Them using drones would make sense.

Where he ignores the pilot of the Blackhawk ignored 200 foot ceiling rule?
I didn’t ignore it. If you watch the simulation and listen to some former NTSB officials, the pilot began to climb after receiving the “fly behind” instruction from the controller. You have stated there were no other planes in the are to be confused by. IN FACT there was another airborne flight in the Blackhawk’s path. The most recent video released from the DCA shows that clearly and it was noted last night by a NTSB official. There is also some question as to the actual elevation that the collision happened at by the NTSB.

Yesterday somebody accused the pilot of not following the flight path and should have been hugging the shore line. Turns out that their flight over the middle of the river was an approved and correct path. Having landed on that runway just Tuesday, I can tell you that we were probably not more than 200 ft high when we crossed the middle of the river.

At this point I’m not arguing that the pilot didn’t make a mistake. My concern for the future is that there were other factors that contributed to this accident that need to be corrected and will be.
 
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I didn’t ignore it. If you watch the simulation and listen to some former NTSB officials, the pilot began to climb the pilot after receiving the “fly behind” instruction from the controller. You have stated there were no other planes in the are to be confused by. IN FACT there was an another airborne flight in Blackhawk’s path. The most recent video released from the DCA shows that clearly and it was noted last night by a NTSB official. There is also some question as to the actual elevation that the collision happened at by the NTSB.

Yesterday somebody accused the pilot of not following the flight path and should have been hugging the shore line. Turns out that their flight iover the middle of the river was an approved and correct path. Having landed on that runway just Tuesday, I can tell you that we were probably not more than 200 ft high when we crossed the middle of the river.

At this point I’m not arguing that the pilot didn’t make a mistake. My concern for the future is that there were other factors that contributed to this accident that need to be corrected and will be.
Then there is the theory of @Mrs.Jeans15 that the chopper pilot intentionally flew into the plane.
 
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The pilot.

No way they didn't know they shouldn't be above 200 ft before take off.

No way.

Look at the video. There is no way they did not see that plane, night vision or not. No.change of direction not even at the last minute. The plane behind it is not even in sight of the plane that hit.

Like I said provide actual proof and Im good
To what gain?
 
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