Sonny Liston....No mob involvement. Could have been top 5.
OT: Best heavyweight boxers
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They made him an offer her couldn't refuse. I agree, I think he had elite talent and physical attributes but his out of the ring life was a disaster.
Uhhh, I didn’t say that. I said that Tyson didn’t beat any of the top fighters of his era.
Nope...there were no good fighters.
Shoot, I remember it too...Glass Joe, King Hippo, Super Macho Man...all chumps
And didn’t Buster retire after that. I remember people believing Buster was suppose to take a Dive in that fight and didn’t , King ( promoter ) came unglued and ran into the middle of the screaming … everyone knew then that boxing under King was rigged.
Maybe someone recalls that better than I
Maybe someone recalls that better than I
Your forgot Butterbean and Peter Mcneely.
I always felt bad for those that purchased this fight. If you went to the kitchen to make a sandwich at the beginning of round one, you missed everything.
Totally agree. Tyson got messed up when he lost Cus and Don King took over. I have never seen anyone throw a punch as ferociously as Tyson. I still think he could have been one of the all time greats. His drama and mismanagement killed him.
Ali was imprisoned just when hitting his prime. If he fought those 3 years, it would have been awesome and his record would be insane. But his legend grew from what he overcame…getting older/slower away from the sport and STILL rising to the top again. Had he not been removed, the trilogy w/ Frazier probably would’ve have happened b/c a prime Ali would’ve beaten him in that first match (probably pretty easily too).
Ali is #1 and that’s w/o seeing those prime years…
Ali is #1 and that’s w/o seeing those prime years…
Ummmm, Tyson too?
Mike was beating grown up ass men when he was 18.
Tyson is the best heavyweight ever and it really is not even close.
There is this weird idea that he did not beat anyone but that is because there was no one that was close to him.
For Ali, there was nothing easy about Joe Frazier, those fights were wars and Ali did not come through them with flying colors.
No way was Tyson even close to the best ever. He even admitted he could have never beaten Lewis.
Tyson was tailor made for a younger George Foreman.
Although he was smaller, Sam Langford fought all the way up to heavyweight and was one of the best P4P all-time. You don’t hear his name mentioned much though.
The list is Ali and Joe Louis and then everybody else. Clear cut top 2.
Tyson and Liston are two guys maybe at the back end of the top 10 for their career. But in their prime, Tyson, Liston, and Louis are guys that you wouldn't have wanted to face if you valued your health.
Top 5. Would probably toss in Forman, Holmes, and Marciano with Ali and Louis. Then probably, Dempsy, Frasier, Tyson, and Liston in a group after that.
You're all wet. In nobody's world would Larry Holmes be mentioned. If you don't have Lennox Lewis in there your knowledge of boxing is limited. Guys like Liston, Marciano, Tyson wouldn't last 5 rounds with a young Foreman, cause they were tailor made for him.
Two great champions, both Ali and Foreman insist that Ernie Shavers was the hardest puncher they ever fought. Shavers isn't recognized as an all time great, but when he hit them, they went to sleep.
Boxing will always be about styles.
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It is still fun to watch those ‘ham and eggers’ go flying around the ring whenever I watch footage of old Tyson fights
LOL and don't forget the tomato cans he fought. What was Tyson's record against Holyfield and Lewis?
Tyson was tailor made for Old George. There is a reason they never fought.
Tyson didn't beat any of the top fighters of his era. Don't believe the hype.
