our win over CU this year was - by far - our best win with Rhule as our coach
as accurately predicted during this past offseason
scoreboard absolutely still matters (on the field and on this board)
# of days after sCUm bowl game does the HC resign?
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as accurately predicted during this past offseason
scoreboard absolutely still matters (on the field and on this board)
That is all well and good, and I agree that there are posters that put a negative spin on everything. But it is also true that there are posters on here who start talking smack about other teams and coaches like it was 1995 again. There is still a residual “But we are Nebraska!” arrogance that annoys me because I think it is precisely that attitude that hurts our program. What we need instead is a raw, brutal realism about who the hell we really are as a program right now and not a bunch of chest thumping bravado. The reality is we suck. And we have sucked now for a long time. The reality is Rhule has proven exactly nothing. Not a damn thing. Just a bunch more one score losses in games we should have won.
Beating CU was the high point of our season. I was so deliriously happy after that game I can’t even describe it. But the reality is that our offensive coaches were so awful that they ruined the rest of our season. And it was Rhule who hired them.
That is who we are right now. A team with a still unproven coach and a penchant for losing. And so I am not going to talk smack about any other team or coach. And that includes Sanders.
Betting lines are set to get equal money, not the outcome. C'mon man. An elite bettor like you should know that.
This is a good thread and follow if you’re interested in how lines are actually set:
Vegas's own algorithmic view of where the market will end up
they want to avoid as much sharp action as soon as the line is posted as possible
for instance:
west va vs memphis
west va opened as short favorites (-1.5) and the line quickly moved to memphis -4, finally ending at memphis -5.5 at kickoff
memphis bettors at kickoff (mostly retailers/public bettors) failed to cover, while sharp early memphis action all cashed their tickets.
I can appreciate that as well, we need real as well.
Reality is, we see too much of both kinds of posters.
I guess some people can see a fraud and the reasons it's fraudulent and others can't. Pointing that out isn't "irrational hatred."
And Nebraska's shortcomings have been well documented all year long. But we weren't playing the "what about this" game.
Deion got Colorado to take out the highest insurance policies on both . But nice try on doing the right thing deal🤡
But their schedule was bad, bad, bad (#73 in CFB). They didn’t even play the best teams in their bad conference.
And as bad as we were, we kicked their ass, as did 5-7 KU. I think it takes a special kind of bad coaching to accomplish this with two high first round draft picks.
And stating that isn’t me glossing over all of Nebraska’s issues, it is just me refusing to buy into the Coach Prime hype pushed down our throats day after day, by the Prime Superfans on this board.
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THANK You for posting this. I swear most people have no idea how lines are set.
It is crazy to think that way back in the day this was NOT done with the help of computer programs.
Of course they are going to play, that is what benefits “Coach Prime”. That has always been all that matters. If he had found another job, they would have opted out.
But you said they finished the job they signed up to do . Without the insurance policies they both would have opted out.
The book The Odds is a really good read on sports betting and it was in the early 2000’s, so kind of the old school. Fun to see how they try to keep betting down on some games they don’t feel great about and how they try to beat the public on some other games.
Oh thanks! I will look that up!
I remember my old local bookies in Lincoln back in the 90s jacking up NU lines!
USA Today: Huskers -41.5 vs Baylor
My local Bookie (Weekly Trader): Huskers -49.5
I remember losing so much money to this scam as a kid, I had to give my Middle School bookie my Newmann’s to settle up.
Who did Colorado beat??? A lot of Colorado's success was due to them not facing stiff competition other than Nebraska.
Probably but that wasn’t the point of our argument. This is what make you nit a favorite on this board. You change your argument mid stream.
you're saying the only pure way to play in a meaningless bowl game as the projected #1 pick is to do it with no safety net?
who gives a shit if they took out an insurance policy. they'd be absolute morons not to.
they don't have to play but they are choosing to. must mean something to them. which is what everyone wants from college football teams/players.
I bet Ty has an insurance policy. Obviously not as large as Hunter.
Everyone with any kind of favorable draft grade should and likely does have an insurance policy if they’re playing in their bowl game and probably even the playoffs
Just good business
Plus, the schools usually pay for it anyway. So, why not?
I look at it this way. It is good business to have an insurance policy. I also believe that if Sanders wasn’t the coach they would have both opted out. They are playing out of loyalty to the coach and in my mind that is stupid for a high first round pick. If they are injured but only to the point that their draft stock is affected, the payout will be minimal. It won’t make them whole. If they are injured to the point their careers are significantly affected, the money will be nice I guess but never being able to play at an elite level again for the glory of beating a conference for in the Alamo Bowl seems short sighted.
So you’d prefer good players opt out of bowl games instead of play in them?
I can see that they would opt out of Sanders wasn't there. But also players wanna play. I wouldn't miss game if I was healthy. The insurance policy solidifies it.
I am talking about players with 1st round draft grades that won’t be on the team next year AND playing in one of the exhibition bowl games. Max 32 players spread out over 70 teams, probably closer to about 15-20 when you take out the CFP teams.
I even stated high first round pick in the post you quoted. I didn’t say “all good players”
They're not real players. Or they're selfish or done with college.
So you’d prefer those players - the best of the best - opt out instead of play?
I don’t prefer anything. I just think the risk for injury in a game that means very little to the team or the individual is too high for a player that has a high 1st round grade.
If I am the top DB or top 2 or 3 QB in the draft, I would not risk injury to play BYU in the Alamo Bowl.
I read his post multiple times, don’t see anywhere that he says he prefers that. He does say it’s good business.
For someone who puts a premium on what he says, as you do, and who points out all the time on this board that you never said any such thing, why are you attempting to say something Tuco never said?
He just said he wouldn’t play.
He’s also saying he thinks it’s stupid for high draft picks to play in meaningless games.
That’s his opinion and he’s entitled to it.
As for me, I hope one day Dylan is a projected high pick and chooses to finish his career at NU on the field playing for the coach and university and fans he loves.
I’m sure everyone here disagrees, just like you all would if I said water is wet and 1+1=2.
You assumed it was his preference. He came back and said it wasn’t his preference. For someone who relentlessly tells everyone on this board that you never said such a thing, even challenging posters to find where you said it - they can’t… and you did the same damn thing. Almost as if you are trying to start something with a fellow Husker poster.
But you would never do that, amirite?
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