Did you say OVER?
Nothing is over until I say it's over. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Nothing is over until I say it's over. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
McKinney Texas
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Im not for sure that she was a tresspasor. The interview I saw said her family was part of the HOA and from that neighborhood. That is what made her father mad.....she had a right to be there .
My father wouldnt have even asked me what happened. He would have taken the cops word as gospel.........and handled it accordingly.
As a father of multiple daughters i would be very upset if this happened to us. I'm very grateful and thankful that the police chief had ZERO tolerance for this behavior.
As a father of 3 kids I'd be pissed at any of them if cops showed up somewhere at a party that got out of hand and told them to leave and they didn't, and got mouthy on top of that. But to each their own, everyone thinks their kid is a special little snowflake I guess. .
Karma will jump up and bite you on the ass when you least expect it. Children shouldn't be spoiled but they are gifts that should be cherished. Having your rights violated isn't acceptable and shouldn't lead to an assault.
Agreed. Love cops and appreciate the difficult job they do. Doesn't mean I'm not for law and order, either. I have relatives that serve in law enforcement/fire department. It's all about serving the community in which we live. I served in the Navy. Doesn't mean that I support every military action dreamed up by our elected officials or support all the actions that our service members take. They are an important part of society, but not the only important part of our society. The police provide customer service to their customers. And who are their customers? The public (citizens). As soon as you figure out who your customer is then you'll figure out how to provide that service better. Police have to decide when heavy-handed and/or lethal action is necessary. Too often they don't take the time to assess the situation properly before deciding what to do. And no, they can't do whatever they like because they wear a badge. We shouldn't have to have video recordings for them to do the right thing.
Its pretty simple. Obey the law...be respectful. But if adults are doing this.....what are the chances their kids will do it?
The cop did his job well, little punks need to obey the law and respect authority. He should get a raise, that punk hit him in the head while he was making an arrest. The idiots should learn not to fight and resist the police when they are breaking rules.
His chief already said his actions were "indefensible". So yeah, great post.
1. The cop's boss said he did not do his job well.
2. He's resigned, so no there will not be a raise for doing his job terribly.
3. If they're "breaking rules" the cops have no business there.
Well said. Man there are a lot of times I'd love to jam my knee into the backs of some drivers.
About the only thing that cop did right was pull the gun when he did. You don't rush a cop while reaching back behind you. My favorite part was how when she was already sitting down, he pulls her up so he can shove her back down again and add a little extra 'justice'. His biggest mistake was engaging that group of girls to begin with. Like others have said, tune that out.
I especially liked when he was yelling, "Get on the ground!!!" to the girl when she's literally sitting on the ground. Great stuff.
At what point is it acceptable to intervene in a police officer beating the shit out of someone? Like it's pretty terrifying that if, as long as someone is in a uniform, they can beat up anybody they want and if anyone intervenes they are eligible to be shot and murdered, and a good portion of people will support that murder. If I saw a cop beating up a 14 year old in a bikini because she wasn't respecting his imaginary authority, I'd probably rush to help her too (before backing off like those guys did because I would remember that helping would get me killed.)
I don't get posts like this. I get saying that there was a lack of respect for the officers and those in authority. I don't get that he did his job well. Why the heck was he reprimanded? So were his superiors and those cops on the scene who tried to calm him down the bad cops?
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You've used that response a couple times. What the chief said and what he may have thought could be very different. Media is forcing the hand of City administrators and police chiefs lately. If he comes out and defends his officer in even the slightest way, we have riots. Get the guy to resign or fire him quickly and it calms the masses.
This is a very slippery slope we are walking on lately in society. Not saying cops are right all the time, but we are starting to trend towards reacting quickly to avoid a firestorm because some kid has a video of a small portion of an incident. Going to be a breaking point at some time when officers won't react at all in fear of getting fired because they didn't handle something the way a large group thinks they should have.
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You know how to avoid all of that then? Act appropriately. Thousands of cops do every day.
I agree you. But the problem I am pointing out is that this appears to have had zero investigation and the guy was probably "forced" to resign and probably came from the City.
Chief Schmaderer here in Omaha has been great in getting ahead of situations (not just the Orazco shooting) and appears to have a handle on keeping everyone calm while giving his department time to fully investigate.
I've heard he was the first and only cop on scene for a little bit. Ive heard he got hit while trying to subdue a running kid. Ive heard the home owners that were there (black and white) had praise for the cops coming in and they felt threatened so the force was justified in their eyes. Lots of specualtion out there as to what happened and I'm in no way saying what he did was right or wrong.....just that it seems have been handled VERY quickly and if this video was the only video they were using, its piss poor police work then.
So your defense of this cops poor police work is more "piss poor police work" by his bosses? The systemic failure of the entire dept is not evident in those videos. Many of those cops seem to be calm and collected, while that dumbass looks like an extra from Reno 911.
There has been no trend for things happening quickly. And the departments investigation was still going on, so the only thing that has happened quickly was this cops resignation. That's it. Nothing else supports this trend you speak of.
I love the fact that liberty is being restored in so many facets of American life. And I love it even more that we're simply not putting up with the ignorant anymore. It used to be, "well, let's hear your side on police brutality." Now it's just, "you don't have a side. You're wrong."
Us true patriots are proud.
Us true patriots are proud.
Yep, in the real world that can happen too, you could lose ur job. Them the breaks
Uhm nope. you didn't read my post entirely did you? The piss poor police work would be in reference to them using just one video to support what happened. And that was preceded by "IF". Had zero to do with this cops behavior. Again (third time)...I am not even referring to the right or wrong of what this cop did.
The cop resigned to "save his community and his family". You think this was by his own accord? Its the second one I can think of that "resigned" recently and won't be the last.
"...but resist, we much. We must, and we will much, about that, be committed. " Al Sharpton 2011
Why are you assuming "piss poor police work" by the superiors...and using "if" doesn't exonerate you? How about, "The guy acted like a fool (especially when every other cop was being incredibly calm) and deserved to be reprimanded by his superiors."
And for the umpteenth time you can say the above and also say a number of those kids need to be taught how to respect authority.
Im looking at a broader picture from everything that has gone this past year. And this is not a good cop vs bad cop stance. It is about cops just trying to survive doing their jobs and citizens being law abiding members of their communities. Imagine for a minute that every cop was perfect and always made perfect decisions. Would our communities be 100% better? No. We would still have people committing murder, rape, robbery...............still have gangs, drugs etc. My fear is this. The more cops become viewed as the "bad guys" .......the more cops are going to pull back in community policing. The more likely they may be to look the other way....not hunt down the drug dealer etc. Why? To avoid putting themselves in a situation that could put their career at risk.
Tell you what Tom, reread my first post and when you can come back with some sort of reading comprehension we can talk.
OK...I reread your first post. Here's my response...
Why are you assuming "piss poor police work" by the superiors...and using "if" doesn't exonerate you? How about, "The guy acted like a fool (especially when every other cop was being incredibly calm) and deserved to be reprimanded by his superiors."
And for the umpteenth time you can say the above and also say a number of those kids need to be taught how to respect authority.
