Matt Rhule not coming to Nebraska (?)

[Sinomatic]

People don’t want Rhule because he failed with the panthers and didn’t beat a top 25 team in college but we want fickell who went 6-6 at Ohio state?

What was Rhules first year record again???
2-10 at Temple
1-11 at Baylor.

What was Fickells first year record again???
6-7 @ OSU
4-8 @ Cincy

Fickel has 7 years as a HC in college with a 72.1 win%

Rhule has 7 years as a HC in college with a 52.22 win%

Time to get your eyes off Rhules pube patch and look at pertinent information.

 

[headcard]

What was Rhules first year record again???
2-10 at Temple
1-11 at Baylor.

What was Fickells first year record again???
6-7 @ OSU
4-8 @ Cincy

Fickel has 7 years as a HC in college with a 72.1 win%

Rhule has 7 years as a HC in college with a 52.22 win%

Time to get your eyes off Rhules pube patch and look at pertinent information.

I think they are both great coaches that I would do backflips over. But that is a little misleading to Ruhle. If he had stayed at Temple, I'm sure he could have kept churning out 10-win seasons like Fickel has at Cinnci, but instead, he took on another rebuild, which kills the overall win %.

 

[headcard]

Oh come on. He was interim coach that year and Ohio State was in transition and in a bit of a down cycle in recruiting. And when he did get a head coaching gig at Cincy, he did well.

He was in a tough spot, with all the Tressell scandal, but didn't have a lack of talent. They were 12-1 the year before and 12-0 the year after. His OSU stint used to give me a lot of pause, but I think since then he has proven to be a heck of a coach. His teams at Cinni can compete with anyone.

 

[scarletred]

I think they are both great coaches that I would do backflips over. But that is a little misleading to Ruhle. If he had stayed at Temple, I'm sure he could have kept churning out 10-win seasons like Fickel has at Cinnci, but instead, he took on another rebuild, which kills the overall win %.

I’m with you, I’d be satisfied with either of these two..

Leipold not so much.. O’Brein doesn’t do anything for me with hire, Kiffin did much better job being Bama offense coordinator than BoB has..

 

[mgbreis]

AJ Hawk (college national champ, super bowl champ, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay packers) has said multiple times publicly that Luke Fickell is by far the toughest dude he’s ever met

Fickell started 50 straight games as an undersized nose guard for Ohio st

That alone has had him atop my wishlist for several years

Also - when was the last time blowhard outsider Sip knew anything before the rest of us? That guy’s career is doing its best Hindenburg impression

Also also - keep fat Bret as far away from this program as possible. That guys a loser

X 1,000,000

How could anyone not want Fickell? He, in my mind, would be the perfect hire for Nebraska. And that's from me, who you know all too well doesn't really know who TF we should hire. He's about the only guy I can come up with that kinda checks all the boxes.

 

[Harry Caray]

There are only two jobs Fickell would leave Cincinnati for: Ohio State and Notre Dame.

He makes $5 million at Cincinnati and they are joining the Big 12, he will have a good chance of making the playoff every year. He's not going anywhere unless Ryan Day leaves for the NFL.

 

[IowaHuskr]

I think he ends up coaching at Iowa in the end.

Iowa will definitely talk to him when Captain Kirk heads off to the sunset. He played at Iowa but is a native of Illinois so he very well may stay put.

 

[inWV]

I just don’t see Fickell leaving Cincinnati. He’s a king in that town making a ton of money and they’ll build statues of him there.

Stay at Cincy to coach in the Big XII or take an opportunity to coach in the B1G?

 

[leodisflowers]

AJ Hawk (college national champ, super bowl champ, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay packers) has said multiple times publicly that Luke Fickell is by far the toughest dude he’s ever met

Fickell started 50 straight games as an undersized nose guard for Ohio st

That alone has had him atop my wishlist for several years

Also - when was the last time blowhard outsider Sip knew anything before the rest of us? That guy’s career is doing its best Hindenburg impression

Also also - keep fat Bret as far away from this program as possible. That guys a loser

Yep. I'm coming around on ole Fickell and that comment makes me want him more. Agreed on fat Bret. He should not even be a thought.,

 

[king_kong_]

Yep. I'm coming around on ole Fickell and that comment makes me want him more. Agreed on fat Bret. He should not even be a thought.,

50 straight starts still an ohiost record at any position

 

[dinglefritz]

Down cycle in recruiting? Theyre Ohio state and he had a roster full of tressel bought and paid for talent. Interim or not, he just gets a pass for being in charge of the worst Ohio state football season since 1999?

Exactly. There is no doubt though that the guy has learned some things as a head coach at Cinci

 

[king_kong_]

Bobby Carpenter - another ohiost legend and tough mf'r - says that if Fickell and Mike Vrabel were ever to fight, he'd take Fickell, no question

3x state wrasslin champ in ohio in high school

he's a man of faith with 6 (!) kids. whether he knows it or not, Fickell would take to NU like a fish to water & instantly be the toughest dude wearing the N in 25 years and maybe ever

 

[RecruitingAnalyst_National]

I would much prefer Fickell to Rhule.
Rhule would be a good hire but Fickell would be a home run.

Nobody short of urban Meyer is a home run hire. Rhule would a solid double

 

[WHCSC]

Down cycle in recruiting? Theyre Ohio state and he had a roster full of tressel bought and paid for talent. Interim or not, he just gets a pass for being in charge of the worst Ohio state football season since 1999?

Didn't they have to sit their QB for tattoos or something?

 

[king_kong_]

Nobody short of urban Meyer is a home run hire. Rhule would a solid double

Fickell would be a grand slam

urban meyer was last seen being laughed out of his own meeting by his players. he's cooked

 

[king_kong_]

Exactly. There is no doubt though that the guy has learned some things as a head coach at Cinci

if you want a tough team, hire a tough coach

there might not be a guy in all of football (America?) tougher than Luke Fickell

 

[mikecanale]

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Makes you wonder. It may be that he’s waiting for his alma mater to open up, which could be soon. Also, from Steve Sipple on the Premium Boards:

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Didn't James Franklin sign a long extension to his contract. If he's waiting for Penn St., he may have a long wait.

 

[dinglefritz]

if you want a tough team, hire a tough coach

there might not be a guy in all of football (America?) tougher than Luke Fickell

Rhule was a Penn State linebacker and has his masters in educational psychology. Hmmmm who else do we know who that has a post grad degree in that area?

 

[king_kong_]

Rhule was a Penn State linebacker and has his masters in educational psychology. Hmmmm who else do we know who that has a post grad degree in that area?

rhule's had a spare tire for a decade & spits all over himself

he's soft

 

[dinglefritz]

rhule's had a spare tire for a decade & spits all over himself

he's soft

Made me 😁chuckle

 

[shine003]

Exactly. There is no doubt though that the guy has learned some things as a head coach at Cinci

To be clear, I would have no issue with a Fickell hire. I just think the selective application of previous coaching records around here is ridiculous. Rhule turns around temple and had a great record at Baylor, but he gets made out to be an unqualified hire. Meanwhile Fickell would be great despite having already failed with a roster with more talent than we’ve had in a long time. Just be consistent.

 

[406Nebraska515]

if you want a tough team, hire a tough coach

there might not be a guy in all of football (America?) tougher than Luke Fickell

Like Fickell has made Chuck Norris cry.

 

[WHCSC]

There are only two jobs Fickell would leave Cincinnati for: Ohio State and Notre Dame.

He makes $5 million at Cincinnati and they are joining the Big 12, he will have a good chance of making the playoff every year. He's not going anywhere unless Ryan Day leaves for the NFL.

We'll see what kind of salesman Trev is.

 

[mgbreis]

There are only two jobs Fickell would leave Cincinnati for: Ohio State and Notre Dame.

He makes $5 million at Cincinnati and they are joining the Big 12, he will have a good chance of making the playoff every year. He's not going anywhere unless Ryan Day leaves for the NFL.

Probably. Offer him $8 mil. We've got that much in the couch cushions.

 

[WHCSC]

Probably. Offer him $8 mil. We've got that much in the couch cushions.

Cincinnati will always be the little brother in ohio. Why not come here and build your own OSU in the West?

 

[Sinomatic]

I think they are both great coaches that I would do backflips over. But that is a little misleading to Ruhle. If he had stayed at Temple, I'm sure he could have kept churning out 10-win seasons like Fickel has at Cinnci, but instead, he took on another rebuild, which kills the overall win %.

I personally wouldn't backflip over Rhule just because of that. He moves on so fast. I just can't see him elevating a program to the point of actually winning a Championship if he's gone in 3 years.

Maybe he would have a magic year his last year here winning 11 games on a 3 year stint. That just doesn't sound all that great. I mean it would be a. 11 win season but then what?

And then there is the argument for all that potential and not actually winning anything real. Is he really that good at that point?

 

[RedCap]

What was Rhules first year record again???
2-10 at Temple
1-11 at Baylor.

What was Fickells first year record again???
6-7 @ OSU
4-8 @ Cincy

Fickel has 7 years as a HC in college with a 72.1 win%

Rhule has 7 years as a HC in college with a 52.22 win%

Time to get your eyes off Rhules pube patch and look at pertinent information.

I'm not going to make a pick because I don't have access to the professional resources/analysis Trev has from using high paid consultants. However, Fickell definately is someone I'd be taking a close look at with those consultants. If he can win at Cincinnati being in the shadow of Ohio State, that's something in his favor. And why wouldn't an ambitious coach want to be in the more secure B1G or SEC super conferences?

 

[RedBaloneyPony]

Down cycle in recruiting? Theyre Ohio state and he had a roster full of tressel bought and paid for talent. Interim or not, he just gets a pass for being in charge of the worst Ohio state football season since 1999?

your take is off. Use our current situation as a scenario. Mickey finishes the year 2-7 as interim, goes to another school like Cincy or UCF as head coach, kills it and gets to a college football playoff spot, then is up for a bigger job but people don't want to hire Mickey because his record at head coach at NU sucked. Fickell would be a solid hire.

 

[grayhairedfreak]

The Rhule dig I see over and over again is "job hopper." I hope we can all agree that...
NFL > Baylor > Temple
By my memory, Nebraska has had one coach in any major sport (DVH) voluntarily leave for a different coaching job in the past 30 years (excluding Collier as he left to be AD). We need to stop worrying about this. If Rhule leaves for a better gig, he's leaving us better off than we are now. Thank him for his service and hire the next guy.

 

[frostonthegrass]

Didn't they have to sit their QB for tattoos or something?

Had Braxton Miller as a true freshman and wait for it....Bauserman, a fifth year senior to work with for the season.

 

[cruelhalo]

People can whine all they want about Urban Meyer’s former missteps. But if they do then they’re hypocrites. No one is perfect.

I think we can all agree if Urban Meyer is hired as HC at Nebraska, everyone in the world of college football would pucker up and say “holy shit - that guy will wake a sleeping giant.” That guy would attract all the talent in the world to Lincoln AND develop them.

Now, what other candidate brings that element to Nebraska football?

 

[Mr.Scary13]

your take is off. Use our current situation as a scenario. Mickey finishes the year 2-7 as interim, goes to another school like Cincy or UCF as head coach, kills it and gets to a college football playoff spot, then is up for a bigger job but people don't want to hire Mickey because his record at head coach at NU sucked. Fickell would be a solid hire.

Comparing Mickey's situation with Fickell's at Ohio St is ridiculous.

 

[dinglefritz]

I personally wouldn't backflip over Rhule just because of that. He moves on so fast. I just can't see him elevating a program to the point of actually winning a Championship if he's gone in 3 years.

Maybe he would have a magic year his last year here winning 11 games on a 3 year stint. That just doesn't sound all that great. I mean it would be a. 11 win season but then what?

And then there is the argument for all that potential and not actually winning anything real. Is he really that good at that point?

It took a ridiculous amount of money to leave Baylor

 

[Frosts Playcall Sheet]

Fickell on the McAfee show talked about how staying at Cincinnati has been good for his family and made it hard to leave before, I think he’s going to be posted up there for awhile unless something happens at Ohio State to cause an opening

 

[dinglefritz]

People can whine all they want about Urban Meyer’s former missteps. But if they do then they’re hypocrites. No one is perfect.

I think we can all agree if Urban Meyer is hired as HC at Nebraska, everyone in the world of college football would pucker up and say “holy shit - that guy will wake a sleeping giant.” That guy would attract all the talent in the world to Lincoln AND develop them.

Now, what other candidate brings that element to Nebraska football?

FWIW one guy I don’t know told my yesterday my wife at a medical meeting that Urban is going to be the hire. I doubt he has any inside info though

 

[grayhairedfreak]

The following was posted by a guy on the BigHuskerFan boards...wasn't sure if we were supposed to link directly...take it FWIW...

At the risk of catching more flack I am going to share what I am hearing. This should have been a done deal however the situation is more complex than it would be with other candidates because of Rhule's situation with Carolina. We cannot lowball Rhule or pay him the more incentive laden contract that Trev wanted because we have to pay Rhule "market rate". Carolina has an inflated idea of what "market rate" is and it is more than Trev feels comfortable paying. Trev has started serious negotiations with his second choice (not MJ). Part of this move is to have another iron in the fire ready to go and another part of this move is to show Carolina and Rhule that we have other options and hopefully they will relax a bit on their demands. You don't have to believe it but please don't shoot the messenger...

In a later post he suggests Trev's "second choice" is Leipold.

 

[WHCSC]

You don't have to believe it

Good

 

[ssmill777]

What was Rhules first year record again???
2-10 at Temple
1-11 at Baylor.

What was Fickells first year record again???
6-7 @ OSU
4-8 @ Cincy

Fickel has 7 years as a HC in college with a 72.1 win%

Rhule has 7 years as a HC in college with a 52.22 win%

Time to get your eyes off Rhules pube patch and look at pertinent information.

Where's bigtimebooster when we need him?

 

[mgbreis]

The following was posted by a guy on the BigHuskerFan boards...wasn't sure if we were supposed to link directly...take it FWIW...

At the risk of catching more flack I am going to share what I am hearing. This should have been a done deal however the situation is more complex than it would be with other candidates because of Rhule's situation with Carolina. We cannot lowball Rhule or pay him the more incentive laden contract that Trev wanted because we have to pay Rhule "market rate". Carolina has an inflated idea of what "market rate" is and it is more than Trev feels comfortable paying. Trev has started serious negotiations with his second choice (not MJ). Part of this move is to have another iron in the fire ready to go and another part of this move is to show Carolina and Rhule that we have other options and hopefully they will relax a bit on their demands. You don't have to believe it but please don't shoot the messenger...

In a later post he suggests Trev's "second choice" is Leipold.

Without even commenting on whether I want Rhule, if Trev wants Rhule and he's dickering over money AND we end up with Leipold I'm going to punch myself in the balls. That's a Nebraska clown shoes move.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Cincy is not even the lil brother...no one cares about cincy or BGSU or Toledo or Kent State (except for those national. guards). or Miami Oh and so on...