Lewis to USC
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I had asshole surgery and the other end done at the same time on September 7th... and last Tuesday I had the thing in the front tied up
I specifically remember that a major complaint about Pelini's recruiting were the stretches and long periods without commits, and the scrambling at the end. I'm not saying that we are necessarily scrambling yet, but it will be interesting to see how some posters react if that does happen. Will they sing a different tune?
Still have over a month left, a lot can happen, and Riley does seem much more organized than Pelini ever was. But the bar wasn't set really high there, either.
May I suggest watching as much of Flip or Flop on HGTV? That hot blonde won't be on much longer as their lives are disintegrating faster than the Huskers recruiting class (easy folks, just having a bit of fun here).
These coaches have already shown that they have back up plans when going for recruits that have many options, unlike the previous coaches that would just go after MAC level guys.
.Tommy didn't lead us....gmafb..this season sucks without Tommy.....Quit making excuses for this piss poor coaching staff that has not won a damn thing in their entire college coaching careers.
He got beat with high school plays they run in the freaking 8th grade in Texas and was blew out by Iowa for a possible chance at a title.
Our coaching staff has been average in all results...anybody can win 9 games here with the crap division we play in.
A team beat us and never had to punt.
Tommy didn't ask to play for Riley
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It must have been an asshole sparing procedure as based on your posts the surgeon left behind plenty of asshole.
Kidding. Get well
There's been one full recruiting cycle finished with Riley, so let's take a look at it.
January-February 2016 commitments
Tony Butler - offered in June [Tony claimed he was a silent in December]
Pernell Jefferson - late get, at one point was an Oklahoma commit
Collin Miller - offered in August
Matt Farniok - offered as a junior, beat out Florida State & Iowa
Lamar Jackson - offered early, beat out a lot of top teams
David Engelhaupt - offered last minute
[not listing transition class for obvious reasons]
January-February 2014 commitments
Jariah Tolbert - offered in January, beat out directional schools
Chris Jones - offered in January, he was committed to Purdue
Nick Gates - in on him for a long time
Glenn Irons - offered late December or first of January, beat out directional schools
Mikale Wilbon - offered in January, he was committed to Vanderbilt
Sedrick King - offered in January, he was committed to Central Florida
Deandre Wills - goodness gracious
AJ Bush - goodness gracious
Kieron Williams - offered after signing day, he was set to attend Air Force [prep or college?]
January-February 2013
Kevin Maurice - offered in January, beat out NC State & Boston College
Maliek Collins - offered during the season, beat out Missouri, Kansas & others
Terrell Newby - offered early, beat out a lot of top teams
Ernest Suttles - offered in January [?], he was committed to Iowa State
Cethan Carter - offered late December, can't recall who else was after him
Matt Finnin - offered in December, can't recall who else was after him
I'm not going to waste any more time on this class, there's 6 more to add, it's bad
People can come to their own conclusions, but it's clear to me our coaches aren't as ignorant as some think they are. I will say, I'm not overly thrilled where we're at but we're still in on quite a few big time fish so I've decided to remain patient.
As difficult as it's been, they've shown to have a plan so why not see how things land?
It is really odd that all the "predictors" are picking USC? What do they know that we don't? Sean Levy switched from us to USC as well. I may be off here, but it seems like someone was told by Lewis himself that he was going to USC and the information leaked somewhere.
FYI, there's a post from a USC website floating around, rumored to be a coach of Lewis' 7-on-7 team, that claims Jody is a lock to Nebraska. Not my info, just sharing what was sent to me this morning that I read [actual post] with my own eyes.
I have a feeling that most folks are piling on Wiltfong. And Wiltfong doesn't appear to be taking great interest in his prediction, picking the rather safe hometown school.
In addition to GBR's uplifting post, the only thing that gives me a little pause is within the last week, Coach Dub has had a couple of twitter posts saying something like "Don't go to your dream school, pick a dream situation" and that kind of stuff. Not sure if it was random, or aimed at someone like Lewis.
The more research I've been doing on this, I think you are correct. I also believe that Wiltfong's prediction is based on the fact that Greg Johnson and Joseph Lewis's teammate Marcus Johnson of the 2018 class committed to USC on the 10th. That is my humble, well researched opinion
I don't think they are ignorant.
As I said they are obviously organized, but wouldn't you agree that even they wish they had more commitments at this point? Would that be incorrect to say?
All I'm saying is, IF we have to scramble at the end (which there's still a month left so I'm not saying that's happening now, what I mean is if all the guys we are talking about or most of them don't commit and they have to find more guys to fill the class) will people call it scrambling or sing a different tune?
But who knows, we might get most of the kids we are still in the hunt for. I also mentioned in another thread that they crystal ball predictions for some to OSU are just safe bets, no one knows where these kids will go.
But as you said, I don't think anyone is thrilled with where we're at.
One thing could be either good or bad....the fact that we haven't offered a bunch of athletes recently. This could be good if it means the coaches know more than we do and figure we're going to get a bunch of these kids. However, if we don't, it could lead to bad scrambling.
A win against Tennessee would give us 10 wins. I can see that alone giving us a HUGE selling point and getting us into the top 15.
Yeah, I agree with you on winning against Tennessee being a nice bonus. Without Armstrong starting, though, is that possible?
Hard to say what the coaching staff feels like. If I were coach, I'd want a bunch of 5 stars on board right now, just to be over and done with mostly. However, if I coached 40 years, I'd probably know better than to think that happens every day, each kid is different.
They also have the benefit of knowing roughly where they stand with kids, and aren't left guessing what two sides are thinking. They also generally know what their overall strategy is, and backup plans are.
Since we're so in the dark, its much easier for the fan base to get fidgety by even the slightest rock of the boat. Speculation and fear mongering reigns supreme here.
Why isnt it? I'm not trying to get in a fight here, but stop with the defeatist attitude. Tennesee is not Ohio State. Or even Wisconsin. We also have a month to prepare, and remember what we did last year to a better UCLA team with a month to prepare? Remember what our offense did? That was a beautiful game. what about our defense? Can't we win with them, too?
I expect us to win this game. I did not expect to beat OSU or Wisconsin when we played them. Or UCLA last year.
Ryker proved he can manage a game, didn't he? We still have Newby, don't we? Our O-Line will be healthier than they've been in awhile, won't they? Tennessee is going to try to throw the ball, and we have good defensive backs, don't we?
C'mon man, BELIEVE!!!!
The better question is, at this time, do you believe one of his coaches with direct contact to Jody & Nebraska or recruiting sites with direct contact to his coaches but not Jody himself?
Me personally, I think he ends up not in Lincoln but I'm willing to see how it plays out.
Quite a few posters responses are as if the staff is ignorant, it wasn't directed at you. My apology if that's how you took it.
I'm sure they'd like to have their class filled right now, that's ideal. Massaging down the stretch seems to be easier than filling, but thats just my thought. What you're underestimating is, tohatshanhats seems guys have had their announcement dates set for awhile now, only one or two have pushed theirs back, so if you want to land the big fish we're in on, ya have to wait.
Scrambling is a strange word to use at this point. Riley and staff have shown to have a plan, which includes back-up options. To me, that isn't scrambling. What is scrambling is what I outlined in Pelini's last minute gets. He threw A LOT of darts at a board, and we paid dearly for that.
Top 15 is a stretch unless we hit a high rate of studs down the stretch. And for me, not landing a top 15 class will be a disappointment based on all the momentum we had. At one point.
Let's also remember this UT team is coming off losses to South Carolina and Vanderbilt. Big loss to Vanderbilt. I know we were reeling at the end of the year, too, but Maryland is probably as good as Vandy.
Even if TA were healthy, he'd probably skip the bowl to work on his draft stock anyway.
Scrambling is a strange word to use at this point. Riley and staff have shown to have a plan, which includes back-up options. To me, that isn't scrambling. What is scrambling is what I outlined in Pelini's last minute gets. He threw A LOT of darts at a board, and we paid dearly for that.
Top 15 is a stretch unless we hit a high rate of studs down the stretch. And for me, not landing a top 15 class will be a disappointment based on all the momentum we had. At one point.[/QUOTE]
Agree that Pelini scrambled and threw darts. I just hope that doesn't have to happen to us this year. I'm not saying it will or that it is right now...but if things keep going as they currently are it's going to be rough.
If we can tell these guys we just beat Tennesee and got 10 wins, I think we do it. Or at least close to 15..16 or so. In this case it's probably better they are waiting to announce after the bowl game.
Top 15 is a stretch unless we hit a high rate of studs down the stretch. And for me, not landing a top 15 class will be a disappointment based on all the momentum we had. At one point.[/QUOTE]
Agree that Pelini scrambled and threw darts. I just hope that doesn't have to happen to us this year. I'm not saying it will or that it is right now...but if things keep going as they currently are it's going to be rough.
If we can tell these guys we just beat Tennesee and got 10 wins, I think we do it. Or at least close to 15..16 or so. In this case it's probably better they are waiting to announce after the bowl game.
It's obvious that Riley & staff aren't just winging it. They have a plan. Yes, they are swinging for the fences. Something tells me they have a backup plan. If they don't get their primary targets they have alternate ones where they'll poach from other schools.
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You've got that right....Tennessee is capable of hanging 40 or more on Nebraska if the black shirts don't bring it. Wisconsin could play us 5 times and be lucky to hit that.
I'm expecting to lose the bowl game. Not that I'm cheering for us too, but generally, two evenly matched teams get together, and the team with the backup QB doesn't generally win.
Add to that being down Westy and maybe even Gerry, we're going to be ceding a talent advantage at two other positions to a team that's key strength is primarily offensive for one, and two, recruits rather well even if development is an issue.
If Ryker comes out firing and looks great like he did against Maryland first half, more power to the kid. But I don't think this will be a situation where he's got to find a way just to put two scores on the board and let Rose Ivey dominate the rest of the game.
Add to that being down Westy and maybe even Gerry, we're going to be ceding a talent advantage at two other positions to a team that's key strength is primarily offensive for one, and two, recruits rather well even if development is an issue.
If Ryker comes out firing and looks great like he did against Maryland first half, more power to the kid. But I don't think this will be a situation where he's got to find a way just to put two scores on the board and let Rose Ivey dominate the rest of the game.
The part of my post you quoted was not said by me, however, your point still stands and is noted.
I believe Marcus is Greg's younger brother and that is what lead to the swing in predictions for his older teammates.
D Williams tweet hit me funny. "Everyone wants instant results but nothing worth having comes easy in life"
For him, it seems like we want instant results, but that's complete BS. This isn't fans being restless due to being down a season or 2. This is 15 years of unsettling football. I'm sorry this staff has to deal with demanding fans and it may seem like we lack patience but this all goes way way back. I agree a lot of us (including myself) have turned this all into a sh*t show at times but we are starving for greatness and all we keep hearing is dinner is coming but we have to be patient. All we see is an empty kitchen and no pots and pans on the stove but we keep being told we will eat soon. I'm tired of excuses. I can deal with so much but the amount of excuses this staff has received from this board is down right frustrating. Riley's been our coach for 2 years & entering year 3. To some, that may not seem like a lot of time. But put this into perspective, POTUS only gets 4 years to prove himself. Going into year 3, no one is saying "give him more time" if our country is in shambles. By year 3 POTUS is already having to plan for his reelection & that's running the most powerful country in the world. We're just asking MR to win football games, not run the country. & MR makes more $ then POTUS does.
I like Riley, I think he can win here. I think he's a good enough head coach and can recruit. However, I don't trust the entire staff. I trust a lot of them but a few are struggling. Langs has a legit excuse, he wasn't use to the style of offense and I figure he'll get a pass after next year since he's putting a "new system" in place. banker & cavs have no excuses but dam at least banker points the thumb a lot of the time. I at least respect that and hope he gets it together. The other guy I noted, I have zero hope for and that's where it all starts, up front. Forget 5 star WRs, if we'd can't get great O-lineman every class we won't ever be "back". IMO the 2 best O-lineman Riley has landed in recruiting were inherited in last years class. This years O-line, well I don't like to talk bad about recruits. I have two cousin in laws that coach HS football in Florida. One in the Tampa, St pete area and another who refs down in the same area. We were able to talk in great length at a wedding reception while I was down there. I have some interesting insight from them that I plan to share after LOI day.
Anyway, If a 10th assistant is allowed it has to be help on the O-line. If not, Riley needs to squash position coach recruiting or make a more difficult choice because O-line. Because a lot can be over come but as we've seen, lack of talent on the O-line can not. We have some really good promising talent on the roster but that won't last forever. We always need more and I'm just not seeing it right now. let's keep praying for a miracle with the #1 O-line recruit but it's a serious long shot. We can't hope for long shots, just too risky.
Sort of presumptuous aren't ya spinner? What if he was talking about a recruit playing right away. What if he was talking about one of his CBs in practice working on a technique. Maybe he is talking about a current player. Believe it or not, not every tweet or comment is about Nebraska football fan.
Nice rant though. Hope it was therapeutic.
Just as you are entitled to share your frustration, others are entitled to share their optimistism, whether it be silent commits or "wishful thoughts". Who are you to tell anyone on here to "shut up"? As you say, it's a football chat board.
I am entertained.
Asshole surgery...
Not one asshole surgery, but two asshole surgeries in one recruiting thread.
Asshole surgery...
Not one asshole surgery, but two asshole surgeries in one recruiting thread.
POTUS gets to hand pick his own team before they step on the field. Riley got what he got - a mismanaged roster full of holes and less than an abundance of talent.
