If you really think a "fly" or "go" pattern is always run in a straight line...well...I'll let you enjoy your cereal and secret prize without any undue distraction, Timmy.
It was a bad call
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If you really think a "fly" or "go" pattern is always run in a straight line...well...I'll let you enjoy your cereal and secret prize without any undue distraction, Timmy.
I thought it was a pretty questionable call, BUT, it is too late. It is over. It's a Win! There was a pretty blatant hold by a MSU lineman on one of Spartans TD. The line judge had a perfect view and didn't make that call. It was not in the last minute of the game, but none the less it had an impact on the game. Sparty had a chance to win the game and they didn't get it done.
blotards have a difficult time after a Riley led Husker victory.
Some routes are designed to have an outside release and some routes an inside release.
The route scheme that they had dialed up looks like a 4 vertical concept from trips.Versus trips Michigan State will typically have their weakside safety peak (Poach,Gilligan, Solo are the terms some schools use) to the #3 receiver to trips (count outside in). If the #3 receiver is vertical then then Safety has him, which is what happened by the #3 receiver running vertical to near hash. This is what creates the one on one match up for Reilly to win.
Michigan State is playing a 2 high scheme which means the corner's help is in the inside. Why would you want the the WR to run the route to the inside? Defensive backs are typically taught to use the sideline as an extra defender. If I fault anything on Reilly for anything on this play is that his alignment might be too wide. Some schools will teach a single WR to align on the top of the numbers when the ball in in the middle of the field or on the far hash.
I think some of you need to calm down on the schematics.
The route scheme that they had dialed up looks like a 4 vertical concept from trips.Versus trips Michigan State will typically have their weakside safety peak (Poach,Gilligan, Solo are the terms some schools use) to the #3 receiver to trips (count outside in). If the #3 receiver is vertical then then Safety has him, which is what happened by the #3 receiver running vertical to near hash. This is what creates the one on one match up for Reilly to win.
Michigan State is playing a 2 high scheme which means the corner's help is in the inside. Why would you want the the WR to run the route to the inside? Defensive backs are typically taught to use the sideline as an extra defender. If I fault anything on Reilly for anything on this play is that his alignment might be too wide. Some schools will teach a single WR to align on the top of the numbers when the ball in in the middle of the field or on the far hash.
I think some of you need to calm down on the schematics.
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But it wasn't a flag, post, or go route. I reject the rest of your made-up terms and imagined scheme because I didn't get taught that in midget football. Stop talking nonsense.
Um....pretty much every other poster but you has denied that he was headed out of bounds. But continue on with your tirade, if you feel that you haven't embarrassed your family quite enough yet.
What does it matter? We still have the ball and time for at least one more play if we don't get the call. Not like that was the final play of the game. Mike and Mike were all over this as poor officiating AGAIN (which I think is ESPN being pissed a 3-6 team beat an undefeated - not supposed to happen to keep the hype for the OSU MSU show down). In my mind this is not an officiating problem - it is a rule problem. The rule is not written in a way that makes it easy for the Ref to call anything except what he called - UNLESS there is absolutely NO contact between DB and WR.
I think the consensus is that the call on the field was a judgment call and could have gone either way, but by no means did we benefit from a botched call. We're certainly lucky it went our way, though. I think the staff is smart enough to realize that we may not always be so lucky, so they'll need to help players learn to recognize these situations and teach them how to adjust their routes towards and up the sideline accordingly. I have no doubt that they're using this as a teaching moment.
Evidently, the officials just don't agree with you. You know, the ones who watched the replay and the B1G ones that confirmed that the correct call was made. Those officials.
This is a pathetic thread started by another Bo-ner hold out. How's Youngstown State these days? Hear they have the greatest head coach in the history of FCS. It's like TWICE now that the state of Ohio has stolen the greatest football minds in the sport from our beloved alma mater. Bitches.
This is a pathetic thread started by another Bo-ner hold out. How's Youngstown State these days? Hear they have the greatest head coach in the history of FCS. It's like TWICE now that the state of Ohio has stolen the greatest football minds in the sport from our beloved alma mater. Bitches.
I saw it happen live from section 35 (basically dead head on view) and also seen the garbage replays shown on tv and a few not shown.. the call was correct. But I don't have to have even have seen it live to know it is right..
Know what says it was right? How all the players involved played it out.
Anyone think Reilly didn't know he went out? If he wasn't allowed to reestablish inbounds as legal do you really think he would have done what he did? If he thought he was inelligable he would have stayed out of bounds and not risked getting thrown to. Instead he fought his way in, broke for the endzone and looked for the ball. You don't do that if it isn't legal.
What about TA? He also clearly sees Reilly was out of bounds.. think he throws to an ineligable player on purpose in that situation?
Or the DB.. he didn't just stop covering when Reilly was in the white. He clearly tried to keep him from getting back in bounds and was dejected when Reilly caught it. Why would he care if he thinks Reilly is inelligable? He tried to make a play, he simply fell down.
These guys aren't dumb. They know the rules and how to play along the sideline. They knew what they were doing and what the situation was.
Know what says it was right? How all the players involved played it out.
Anyone think Reilly didn't know he went out? If he wasn't allowed to reestablish inbounds as legal do you really think he would have done what he did? If he thought he was inelligable he would have stayed out of bounds and not risked getting thrown to. Instead he fought his way in, broke for the endzone and looked for the ball. You don't do that if it isn't legal.
What about TA? He also clearly sees Reilly was out of bounds.. think he throws to an ineligable player on purpose in that situation?
Or the DB.. he didn't just stop covering when Reilly was in the white. He clearly tried to keep him from getting back in bounds and was dejected when Reilly caught it. Why would he care if he thinks Reilly is inelligable? He tried to make a play, he simply fell down.
These guys aren't dumb. They know the rules and how to play along the sideline. They knew what they were doing and what the situation was.
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I see what you are trying to get at, but Tommy threw that ball before he could have known Reilly was out of bounds.
That didn't bug me. There was a bunch of hand fighting and Moore's arm got caught up. The db may have given it an extra hug, but Moore put it there in the first place. It could have been called, but it wasn't.
The one that PO'd me the most was the double PI call. WTF?
I already stated I'm no big fan of Bo. Do you assume things as you go through life daily?
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Yes, that's TOTALLY believeable. And I am Santa Claus.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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I hope it didn't take him on any turns. Just straight lines.
You would want to run the route more to inside because out of bounds is incomplete.
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What???? Have you informed the coaches of this? You have a big future. Call them and tell them next time run that route closer to the safety help. They are so stupid for designing that route to get single coverage. I cannot believe how stupid it was!!!
Good to hear. So she works in a straight line right across the street from your home then?
Good morning genius. There are four other receivers to occupy the safety. Which ever one doesn't have the safety in a position to help could get open.
Hope she never hits the curb when making right turns.
Actually, I work for the State. I am one of the guys that paints those white lines on the interstate.
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and why that ended up single coverage. Keep bitching like you do. That last drive was almost perfect (sans the stupid late throw by Tommy over the middle). The kid knew exactly where to go with the ball depending on the coverage, and so did our receivers. And you know what, they didn't adhere to your demand that they be the routes you were taught in 5th grade. Keep pushing though, this is so much fun
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