I don't want to piss anyone off...but ummmm...this game is not the refs fault.
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The fact that we seem to have 2 guys on the floor who contribute nothing on offense at all times is killing us. Thor does nothing, Yvan does nothing, Stevenson does nothing, Mayen has done nothing for the last couple of games, Webster has been missing wide open threes. If Teddy doesn't drop 20+ or Banton doesn't have a triple double we do nothing on offense.Your opinion. In my opinion it's the other way around - the offense's inability to do anything with Thor has certainly contributed to our struggles. Thor's not a guy who is going to work in a "dribble and throw up a bullshit shot" offense.
To be fair. We have played 4 top 25 teams in our last 5 games. But yeah we are awfulMy God!! Stevenson played decent at Pitt, McGowins was a double figure scorer in the ACC, Webster lit up Creighton and was lights out at one of the directional Illinois schools. WTF is going on? Thought we had a chance to be a .500 club. these guys suck!!!
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I blame the offense (or lack thereof) for those guys contributing nothing. I'd like to see ball movement resulting in better/open shots for the guys you named. Teddy and Banton both seem to think it's their birthright to take a shot every time they touch ball.The fact that we seem to have 2 guys on the floor who contribute nothing on offense at all times is killing us. Thor does nothing, Yvan does nothing, Stevenson does nothing, Mayen has done nothing for the last couple of games, Webster has been missing wide open threes. If Teddy doesn't drop 20+ or Banton doesn't have a triple double we do nothing on offense.
Nowadays the kid will be in the portal if that happens. Part of the pussifcation of our society!If this were the 90s this stuff wouldn’t happen. The older guys on the roster like Tom Wald and Lee Steinbrook would get in their faces and tell them to man up. They would just get in their face and yell at them to play better and they would.
What are they supposed to do? Pass the ball to Mayen and Webster so they can miss open threes? Dump it off to Yvan so he can take one power dribble and then get his shot stuffed?I'm not disagreeing with you, but I blame the offense (or lack thereof) for those guys contributing nothing. I'd like to see ball movement resulting in better/open shots for the guys you named. Teddy and Banton both seem to think it's their birthright to take a shot every time they touch ball.
Kudos if the 2nd half proves him right - but unless a major turn around happens he should serve a suspension for the remainder of the BB season for this take
Agreed.After tonight I would be surprised if we win a single B1G game this year.
Yep. I'd prefer that they attempt to run an offense.What are they supposed to do? Pass the ball to Mayen and Webster so they can miss open threes? Dump it off to Yvan so he can take one power dribble and then get his shot stuffed?
Your opinion. In my opinion it's the other way around - the offense's inability to do anything with Thor has certainly contributed to our struggles. Thor's not a guy who is going to work in a "dribble and throw up a bullshit shot" offense.
Over/under .5 B1G wins?
I don't want to piss anyone off...but ummmm...this game is not the refs fault.
They've had some numbers issues. I haven't read or heard if it's injuries or COVID but they played I think at least 2 games with only 7 girls available and I don't think 2 of them would be playing at all without the numbers shortage. I'm not sure they were even able to run practice for a while there. The little bit I've listened to onr of their games they were playing a highly ranked team I think.Who’s the worse team men’s basketball or women’s basketball. I thought Amy Williams was a good hire but they are bad
we absolutely were getting hacked. It's one of the reasons that I've posted on here multiple times that how tall you are may sometimes not be as important as how wide your ass is. I watched most of the first half and our "bigs" such as they are, were getting moved easily by OSU's bigs. The refs let them get away with dipping a shoulder to get space for their shots. They had some stout athletic guys and we didn't match up in the paint. Our only hope was to rain threes OR get in an up tempo fast break game. That's hard to do when your opponent is shooting 70% in the paint.No it wasn’t, but we never got a call attaching the basket like bucknuts did in the first 20 minutes...
McGowne is a stud. Banton is trying to do to much because everybody else is stinkin it up.Do we have any P5 players? Maybe McGowens or Banton are top reserves on another Big Ten team.
What decent players did Fred "chase out"?This team looks terribly coached. Haven't been a fan of Hoiberg's approach since he got here. Threre's been way too much turnover with Hoiberg chasing out decent players and basically replacing them with mercenaries.
McGowens IMO is the best player on the roster. He's definitely a B1G caliber guard. This team is a mess right now. They need to flush this loss and start over. The lack of true big men is killing us when we hit these teams with multiple guys who can play in the paint. Fred's offense has always been predicated on jump shooters MAKING 3s. Bad shooting unfortunately in my experience is contagious and it's in their heads. These guys can shoot better than they've shown.This team just flat out sucks. Thor, Yvan, and Stevenson look like they don't even belong on a power 5 roster. Nobody outside of Banton, Teddy, or McGowens has done anything even remotely impressive this year. Better hope the younger McGowens can contribute right away next year.
They've had some numbers issues. I haven't read or heard if it's injuries or COVID but they played I think at least 2 games with only 7 girls available and I don't think 2 of them would be playing at all without the numbers shortage. I'm not sure they were even able to run practice for a while there. The little bit I've listened to onr of their games they were playing a highly ranked team I think.
Brady Heiman? Lol. He fits perfectly at South Dakota. Cam Mack? LolWhat decent players did Fred "chase out"?
I think you nailed it. There ARE in fact a couple of guys who I think will be good players for us IF they stick around. Teddy can be fun to watch, but I'm not sure his mentality is good for team basketball. McGowens is a stud but he has to have people around him to dish to. Definitely still missing some pieces. I don't like Banton at the point. Might be better at the 2 or 3 but he likes to slash from the top. Regardless of how Fred wants to play, he had better find a big guy or two and by big I don't just mean tall.I think we're all so happy to have Hoiberg as a head coach that we tend to overrate any player that he takes a flyer on, when in reality he probably has about 3 Big Ten-caliber players. Hopefully that will change when the younger McGowens arrives and Fred's not just madly scrambling to slap together a roster.
McGowans seems like a smart, tough player, but anyone who can’t score falls short of ‘stud’ for me.I think you nailed it. There ARE in fact a couple of guys who I think will be good players for us IF they stick around. Teddy can be fun to watch, but I'm not sure his mentality is good for team basketball. McGowens is a stud but he has to have people around him to dish to. Definitely still missing some pieces. I don't like Banton at the point. Might be better at the 2 or 3 but he likes to slash from the top. Regardless of how Fred wants to play, he had better find a big guy or two and by big I don't just mean tall.
I thought they would be better than they have shown so far. Very disappointed but unlike some, I wasn't ready to punch our ticket to the NCAA after those first 2 games. I'm not ready to completely write off the season yet but man the shots have to start falling.Brady Heiman? Lol. He fits perfectly at South Dakota. Cam Mack? Lol
Hoiberg‘s biggest problem is he hasn’t gotten the players yet. But this was a 3-5 Year build and this year hasn’t helped with a very short non con season and playing a tough big ten schedule when it’s a tough league. My only complaint is the offense looks terrible and he hasnt really changed it to try and win with the skill set these players have.
We lost by 36 to a team down a player tonight.I thought they would be better than they have shown so far. Very disappointed but unlike some, I wasn't ready to punch our ticket to the NCAA after those first 2 games. I'm not ready to completely write off the season yet but man the shots have to start falling.
He CAN score. He HAS scored but when we don't have anybody who can make a perimeter shot and are facing teams with the kind of inside presence like we have, he struggles. His game is getting to the rim and he got battered tonight trying to do it. There's zero threat from outside to keep the defense honest. This game was sickening but I'll wait to judge these guys. They're not going to be what some thought but they could still go on a run. B1G is extremely tough this year though.McGowans seems like a smart, tough player, but anyone who can’t score falls short of ‘stud’ for me.
I started judging during the GT game. I was right.He CAN score. He HAS scored but when we don't have anybody who can make a perimeter shot and are facing teams with the kind of inside presence like we have, he struggles. His game is getting to the rim and he got battered tonight trying to do it. There's zero threat from outside to keep the defense honest. This game was sickening but I'll wait to judge these guys. They're not going to be what some thought but they could still go on a run. B1G is extremely tough this year though.
The Monstars could suit up in place of our spindly brick layers and we’d still go 0-for-the conference season.I have asked this a couple times before but who is responsible for our team's S&C?
So quit watching and quit posting about it then. The season is over. Just ignore them. OSU may have been down ONE player but they had 3 big guys that we don't have. IF you can't make a perimeter shot you HAVE to have a game in the paint and we don't. period. It's the problem I have with Fred's philosophy. You better have some guys who can really fill it up if you aren't going to recruit true big men.We lost by 36 to a team down a player tonight.
The shots have to start falling? 90-54!
Platitudes are for losers. Season was over before it even started.
Face the music, dingle. This team sucks and there’s nothing positive to say about them.So quit watching and quit posting about it then. The season is over. Just ignore them. OSU may have been down ONE player but they had 3 big guys that we don't have. IF you can't make a perimeter shot you HAVE to have a game in the paint and we don't. period. It's the problem I have with Fred's philosophy. You better have some guys who can really fill it up if you aren't going to recruit true big men.