Yep, always weird that they don’t start a home-school league for those things.
It would be phenomenal.
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It would be phenomenal.
They had some great players around the time I was in school. Jennings brothers, Troy Travis, several others.
I coached a different sport there years ago, the changes even then were hard to work and deal with for getting overall success. Being an OPS guy, it made it even harder.
Today too many OPS schools are seeing students with so many more pressing issues than athletics. Makes it hard to have such athletic success when it’s so low on the importance scale. OPS leadership has made things worse at almost every chance they can.
It's been a lot of years, my daughter graduated high school in 2002, but she went to public elementary, middle, and high school in Lincoln and she had amazing teachers every step of the way.
👍👍to you public school teachers who helped mold the wonderful adult that she is today!
👍👍to you public school teachers who helped mold the wonderful adult that she is today!
Ha! Yes!
I have had a few home schooled kids on my teams. They were great kids, one was a great player. Luckily I did not ruin their life.
Nailed it, although I do have family that came from small towns and send their kids to Westside I believe and actually get along fine there. Nothing would make me want to live in a metro area though
Schooling is always interesting to see how different it is. I grew up in Colorado and moved to Nebraska in the 6th grade. When I got to Nebraska I was easily almost 2 grades ahead of where my school was at. For my kids, they are in a similar situation, but a little different. My younger daughter is in private year round school (1st grade) and she is on the heels of my daughter who is in 3rd grade at public school. My older daughter in 3rd grade is doing a flex public / home school due to a few challenges we have been dealing with is now starting to be ahead of where her public school friends are based on the couple hours my wife works with her at home. To me the biggest point of school is socialization and interaction with other kids. Traditional school is still too geared to a production system to create factory workers. Times have changed and schooling hasn't adjusted yet.
With all that said, it all equalizes in college and truly doesn't matter. It's just the path you chose and how hard you work for your end goal there.
**Edit - I also think college is overrated as well and should move more to a model after you graduate that you 100% focus on where you want to go and are not forced to take all the BS classes that don't matter.
With all that said, it all equalizes in college and truly doesn't matter. It's just the path you chose and how hard you work for your end goal there.
**Edit - I also think college is overrated as well and should move more to a model after you graduate that you 100% focus on where you want to go and are not forced to take all the BS classes that don't matter.
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LOL. You are so wrong. Ex/Retired teachers are some of the most highly sought after employees. They have the ability to communicate, mediate, organize, multitask, adjust, learn, and most are highly educated.
You are crazy!
It’s impossible to be that way. I think he has been misinformed. Or Maybe when he says “should be C2” is a just a flawed opinion he has.
No it's actually not. My town is dying a slow death, the numbers that my former school has has to do everything with illegal workers from neighboring areas residing and their children boosting the number just above the C2 line listed, but still having to be Class B in track, wrestling, and other things. Should be C2 is absolutely correct and with the 3 year average that might actually happen in the next couple of years. Hopefully they let them then be C2 in all sports and not a mix and match of everything. Ogallala, Gothenburg and I think even Minden all kind of fit this narrative from what I've heard.
Leodis, you are confirming that "your school" (why won't you say who it is?) is in conformance with NSAA rules. They are Class B based on enrollment numbers, the same way everybody else is assigned to a class. So to say the school "should" be C2 is inaccurate based on the rules that exist.
Schuyler has dealt with a situation you describe. That town has been historically good at football and basketball. These days, a significant percentage of HS students there are Hispanic. Schuyler is now absolutely dreadful at football but has a good soccer team. But that doesn't mean they should drop a class. Do a headcount, assign them to a class based on the headcount, then get good coaches for the school's teams. It aint a difficult concept.
Look at the list and make an educated guess. It's out west. Might even be one of the ones I listed.
They aren't class B in everything. They are class B is a few select sports and class C-1 in the others and are closer to the list. That is the bigger gripe is how can you be in 2 different classes. It was the same way when I was in High School. We were in class B until I was a sophomore and then moved to C-1 in football, basketball, but still were B in golf, track, and wrestling and that is the same today. Why not class C-1 in everything?
Also, I feel bad for Schuyler. They are getting hosed and probably will have kids opt to other schools so they don't have to be in a shitty place. That also happens quite a bit, especially with farm kids. I had two kids in my school go to 3 different schools chasing sports.
I think the schedules are better now than when I was in HS, but we were a small school then and were playing McCook, Lexington, Chase County, Grand Island CC, etc. all teams with like 100+ kids on their sideline when we had 40 if we were lucky. That seems dumb. To me maybe they should run the classes based on participation and not just enrollment.
In recent years they moved to classify basketball by boys or girls enrollment and I’ve seen where boys team was large C2 and girls was in D1. That’s not uncommon. It was done to classify by gender in case say 65% of enrollment was boys, obviously earning less girls competing at a disadvantage. If your school’s enrollment is say 567 and that falls into Class B or C1 then that’s how it is. You are repeatedly saying they are just above the C2 line. That’s not possible.
Why are they c1 in some and B in others? Well one reason is all girls schools in Omaha means more girls teams. If your school’s enrollment is smallest in Class B in football they would be in C1 in girls sports due to more schools and younger pushed down to C1.
Many D1 football schools are C2 in VB, Track, basketball.
Now it's making more sense to me since you mentioned C-1 rather than C2. Yes it's very possible for that to happen and my home town had the same situation but C2 and D1. Girls and boys sports sometimes wouldn't be the same since there was 1 more girls school at the time
But if you opt down you're not eligible for state or district play. Then again if you're getting your butt handed to you does it matter??
So running a fortune 500 makes you a valuable employee? You fail once again.
Stay in your lane on this one buddy.
So to be clear, if you aren't running a Fortune 500 company then you are a loser? I think I would easily fit in the upper 10 to 20% of the workforce, I will readily admit I do not have what it takes to run a Fortune 500 company, so that means I am not a 2%er, I can live with that. But I am definitely not a loser and I work for the school district. I used to audit banks and credit unions for regulatory compliance and financial responsibility, but decided that working for 8 months a year, with every holiday off, 4 weeks off for spring, fall and winter breaks, and 10 personal days per year, for roughly the same prorated hourly salary, was a better quality of life choice for me.
Great post
This is no slight, I’m not here to offend anyone….. But this is a perfect example
Instead of proving you belong in the top 10-20% (or higher), you checked out into the public sector
Nothing wrong with it
High achievers are what high achievers do, however
Everyone else speculates while opting not to work/cruise the slow lane on Easy Street
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Well, yes. Obviously.
Any other response is just a coping mechanism.
As I’ve said I’m happy to help fund public whatever.
I just choose not to consume it whenever possible because it is absolute trash compared to alternatives, when offered.
Good news - more for you!
Our schools down here in Texas are considerably larger but for example, Class A from Nebraska would fit in probably Texas 5A DII and 4A D1 level. Now there are a great number of schools from small towns and smaller divisions that would and do regularly beat larger schools.
So many of the small towns have youth programs that are running the offense that the high school runs, so from the time those kids are in 4th grade, and sometimes younger, they are learning the offense they will run for the next 8 years or so. On the other side, there are Houston area schools that either struggle with enrollment or have huge numbers of students where football isn't the sport most of the kids play and they struggle fielding competitive football teams, but they are sometimes successful at basketball, baseball and/ or soccer.
Well on all accounts your wrong. I can tell you that the alternative is not always better. I would agree that if I lived in Omaha I would have a difficult time sending my kids to OPS. Not because of the teachers, but because the admin has decided to turn a blind eye to ridiculous behaviors that take away from the education of students that want to be there.
Bad parenting and poverty are much more of an issue in education than bad teaching.
Parents have 3 choices for their kids:
Warehouse them (public)
Outsource raising them (private)
Invest in them (home/community education)
Everyone in America can make the decision they deem appropriate for their circumstances
I agree we need better parents to drive better outcomes and that teachers are neither here nor there
It sounds like you want Class sizes (B, C1, C2, etc) to be determined by how many kids go out for said sport.
That would be impossible to figure out in enough times notice for scheduling.
Plus, now they do enrollment based off of gender. Back when you played, they probably based it off of the entire student population which would totally suck for mens sports when there weren't many boys in HS, but a lot of girls.
My wife went to Ft Wayne Snider High school. Her younger brother by two years was a smaller, quick athletic guard on their football team. He had offers to play at schools like Valparaiso and Cornell but chose not to play sports in college. His team did very well his junior and senior year because they had a very talented running back who carried them all the way to the state playoffs. That good running back could also play pretty good defense. His name is Rod Woodson, the HOF defensive back.
Snider is usually a great program. They've won some titles in the top class. Elkhart plays them first round of the playoffs. That's where I'm from.
I could not imagine homeschooling mostly because after about 4th grade math, I would be lost.
But it would be cool to break a state HS record of most points in a HS BB game when I outscore my Mom 146-0.
But it would be cool to break a state HS record of most points in a HS BB game when I outscore my Mom 146-0.
Yes, Cathedral is 6A now. They usually are a top 5 team but this year they’ve taken a step back
No, multiple classes. 4A being the top. Basketball is legit here. Some bad ass dudes have come from small towns.
All fun and games until Prom rolls around
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