For real they were talking trash like that? For gosh sakes that is absolutely out of line. I’m sorry to hear that happened.
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I know you mentioned that Nebraska's population isn't large enough to do this, but I chuckled when I first saw this.
You'd have C1 schools having to go to against Creighton Prep, haha!
God given talent, at those ages no need to work on skills if you are physically superior
It was some parents from Syracuse (the rockets). It was stupid, of course, but we beat them that game...they got us the next year! But that is okay.
You’re missing the point…private schools aren’t bogged by with them. If you don’t understand the true effect on participation well then I don’t know what to tell you.
A now buddy of mine told me this story (no idea if it's true or not), but when he was in high school they were playing a football game against Boys Town.
Boys Town was going to beat them, which at the time, Boys Town was a pretty decent underdog.
Of course, the Boys Town student section started chanting, "over-rated"....
Which prompted the student section from the other school to start changing, "we have parents"....
That's pretty terrible, but I also chuckled a bit when I heard that story.
Yep same cheer when I was in high school was we have parents yes we do we have parents how about you....soap on a rope vs Mt Michael
His dad claimed they were separated but had no legal documents. He rented an apartment in Gretnas district. When they had the hearing to protest the forfeiture. The dad literally showed up with a hand written paper claiming his wife and he were separated and he had legal custody. The NSAA couldn’t overturn the Directors ( Jay Bellar ) decision on that flimsy piece of evidence. Also from Papuo South parents ( kids District) the Father bragged after the game about it . He thought he got away with it.
I was the Principal or two different private schools. Each had different views of Spec Ed kids.
By law, the state has to serve that kid. Some schools just tell the parents they do not provide support as they do not have the man power or specialists. Our Catholic school here in town takes spec ed kids, our other private, a Classical school does not.
A 504 is different than an IEP.
Regardless, all students count in your totals. Spec Ed can include gifted kids as well.
Certainly there are some families who can well afford private tuition but I saw families that worked an extra job, drove older cars and had lots of grandparent help just to send kids to my private schools.
There is just so much bravado out there about private schools that is not true.
What is your school? I seriously doubt there is a school who’s enrollment should be lC-2 is class B in anything.
Who else is looking forward to Millard South vs Benson next week? They should probably have Homicide detectives on scene.
Couldn’t pay me to send my kids to public school
I view my tax dollars earmarked to them as charity
"Benson High School football cancels its final two games of the season. Omaha Public Schools said there was low participation with the team."
www.ketv.com
Benson High School football cancels its final two games of the season
Omaha Public Schools said there was low participation with the team
www.ketv.com
This!
The "full ride scholarships" for every starter on the FB
The refusal to help certain kids, even thougt like you said, the state will help with that.
The fact that every kid in the school is "rich"
The not counting certain kids is a new one to me, I have not really heard that before.
God, the fake emotion for Benson cancelling the season this morning on the radio was soooo over the top.
I would be the opposite. Why would I pay for less of an education when my home towns private school doesn't even come close to offering what the public school does.
Your tax dollars go to support the greatest resource our country has... Its youth! The future work force of America.
Your view is skewed by fake news. Not all public schools are bad.
I'm sure his comment, just like yours, is legitimate because it's based off where you each live and what you're each seeing.
Living in Omaha and having plenty of private school choices, I'm with Kong. You couldn't pay me to send my kids to public school.
If I was back in my home town, my kids would be going to public school. Not driving 30 minutes to a private school + I think there are a lot of pros with small town schools.
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Heard this morning on 1620 an idea that some OPS schools should "co-op" with a neighboring district. Normally that is reserved for Class D schools with small numbers, but when Benson has only 23 on their team.....
everyone who works in public anything is basically unemployable elsewhere
the worst of the worst, the most incompetent, the laziest, etc.
if they were at all capable, they'd be doing quite literally anything but working in a public warehouse for peanuts
I don't want my kids anywhere near those losers (teachers, admins, kids, parents, coaches, etc.)
my tax dollars earmarked for public whatever are a charitable contribution to the less fortunate
you're welcome
You do realize that the teachers, admins, coaches, etc that you are sending your kids to come from the same pool as the ones who work at public schools, correct?
So Benson has a smaller team than my Class C school did in the early 80s and even today, when the class enrollment is 50% less than when I was there. Benson either has a male student body that is insufficiently interested in the sport. If this is the case, they should drop the sport and let the kids who want to play transfer. Or perhaps they have a coaching staff that isn't doing the work to get kids to come out for the sport. If this is the case, get a different coaching staff. Perhaps look there before placing the blame on the NSAA. Dividing schools into classes by enrollment is how things are done in high school sports. It isn't perfect, but exactly what would be the replacement for it?
yes, which is why I don't send my kids to private school, either
the education system in the US is a complete and utter waste of time
Benson's coaching staff is not to blame...I can vouch for them.
Home schooling is always so interesting to me. I get "a lot" of students that have been homeschooled until HS and then generally they have "fought" with their parents so that they can come to a traditional HS.
Seems like by 9th grade they are ready to come to school.
Yeah, buddy of mine coaches out there.
The former Benson coach KIND of left them in a bad spot when went to Central, but that happens.
But the student population at Benson is sort of the issue.
Benson HS is very high in poverty, I'm guessing the lowest in Class A. Many english language learners, students that move from school to school, very little support structures in place needed to play football. They cannot find a reliable ride to get to a physical, get to and from practices, let alone the amounts of food and supplements needed to put on muscle to play football. And that's if they've qualified academically, which is also tough in higher poverty schools unfortunately. So they have a lot of factors working against them being able to put out a competitive team year after year.
And to add insult to injury, the article stated that Benson lost 17 players to Central when their head coach (Mackie and Abdul Muhammad) moved to Central, as they actively recruited them to with them to Central. So any kids at Benson that are decent and has the means to transfer, will transfer out of Benson to play at another school.
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This right here. So many people piss and moan but do they do the work to help their programs out. It's tough I know but can be done. It has to be fun!
Well, this is interesting.
I am sure there are others on here who have been involved in all three sectors - public, private, home schools. For the record, we did not homeschool our children but looking back we wished we would have at least for our son. He is on the spectrum and extremely bright, like Mensa bright. I do work with some homeschool parents when they have questions.
All that said, I was a principal at a small public HS that had some of the highest test scores in the State. The State recognized us with the Governors Award, the only small school to earn it. It was not because of me, it was because of the GREAT teachers there and the standards that were established. I occasionally sub in our local public schools and I come home depressed by how the kids act and what they are NOT learning. That would be all grades but no high level specialty classes. Just look at test scores for your school and district and see what you think - it is likely very depressing. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.
I was the principal at a K-12 Christian School and on average our kids were at least a full grade level ahead when they moved to the public schools. I loved working with those kids and they were in a very caring and structured environment. The range of parents were from barely making it to very well off. We found a way to help them keep their kids in school. Teachers worked for peanuts as I did. By this time in my life I was retired from the public sector so I could make it work. The downfall of small Privates they have many challenges, money and offering programs like sports, scholars bowl, technology, etc. It is very difficult
Lastly, after retiring once again from the K-12 Christian school I helped some parents start a Classical School. It is an awesome form of education and you should look it up if you are interested. Kids learn Latin and Greek and very high levels of thinking/reasoning and mathematics/science. Most Classical schools are smaller as the curriculum is rigorous.
My point in all of this that there are many options and parents really need to look at outcomes of previous students. I am sorry to say that I would NOT send my kids to our public schools here in town. Sure they have all of the activities, but they also have all of the problems. In many cases, it isn't the teacher who is bad, it is the system they are in. Just as everyone is free to live where they want or drive what they wish, why is it that public schools do not give parents choices, especially those schools who are failing and you are forced to send your kids there because of where your house is.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I have also seen some very poor home schooling. Had a couple I know well bring 3 of their kids to the Christian school (didn't know they were homeschooling them) and wanted them tested, remain at the grade level they had assigned and no questions. The teachers knew where the kids were at academically and gave extra help to get them caught up but I know what would have happened had those kids gone anywhere else. Had another situation where a pastor wanted me to meet and test a kid whose mother had just moved into town. She told the pastor she had been homeschooling the kid since he was little. Memory tells me he was a freshman, big kid, 6'1" at least, 210 lbs and good looking, athletic looking kid I thought he could be a LB. Turned out the kid couldn't write even the beginning of a simple sentence. Could barely print his own name. I never knew what happened to that kid but his mother should have been brought up on neglect charges. My adopted grand kids are home schooled and they are miles ahead of public school kids using Classical Conversations Curriculum. There are always exceptions to everything.
I am sure there are others on here who have been involved in all three sectors - public, private, home schools. For the record, we did not homeschool our children but looking back we wished we would have at least for our son. He is on the spectrum and extremely bright, like Mensa bright. I do work with some homeschool parents when they have questions.
All that said, I was a principal at a small public HS that had some of the highest test scores in the State. The State recognized us with the Governors Award, the only small school to earn it. It was not because of me, it was because of the GREAT teachers there and the standards that were established. I occasionally sub in our local public schools and I come home depressed by how the kids act and what they are NOT learning. That would be all grades but no high level specialty classes. Just look at test scores for your school and district and see what you think - it is likely very depressing. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.
I was the principal at a K-12 Christian School and on average our kids were at least a full grade level ahead when they moved to the public schools. I loved working with those kids and they were in a very caring and structured environment. The range of parents were from barely making it to very well off. We found a way to help them keep their kids in school. Teachers worked for peanuts as I did. By this time in my life I was retired from the public sector so I could make it work. The downfall of small Privates they have many challenges, money and offering programs like sports, scholars bowl, technology, etc. It is very difficult
Lastly, after retiring once again from the K-12 Christian school I helped some parents start a Classical School. It is an awesome form of education and you should look it up if you are interested. Kids learn Latin and Greek and very high levels of thinking/reasoning and mathematics/science. Most Classical schools are smaller as the curriculum is rigorous.
My point in all of this that there are many options and parents really need to look at outcomes of previous students. I am sorry to say that I would NOT send my kids to our public schools here in town. Sure they have all of the activities, but they also have all of the problems. In many cases, it isn't the teacher who is bad, it is the system they are in. Just as everyone is free to live where they want or drive what they wish, why is it that public schools do not give parents choices, especially those schools who are failing and you are forced to send your kids there because of where your house is.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I have also seen some very poor home schooling. Had a couple I know well bring 3 of their kids to the Christian school (didn't know they were homeschooling them) and wanted them tested, remain at the grade level they had assigned and no questions. The teachers knew where the kids were at academically and gave extra help to get them caught up but I know what would have happened had those kids gone anywhere else. Had another situation where a pastor wanted me to meet and test a kid whose mother had just moved into town. She told the pastor she had been homeschooling the kid since he was little. Memory tells me he was a freshman, big kid, 6'1" at least, 210 lbs and good looking, athletic looking kid I thought he could be a LB. Turned out the kid couldn't write even the beginning of a simple sentence. Could barely print his own name. I never knew what happened to that kid but his mother should have been brought up on neglect charges. My adopted grand kids are home schooled and they are miles ahead of public school kids using Classical Conversations Curriculum. There are always exceptions to everything.
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I like when home schooled kids join a public school team or band. Where they are coached by...... public school teachers. Makes me chuckle.
Benson was actually really good when I was in high school. Kenton Keith and Randy Stella were a couple of dudes.
Why can't Randy Stella just have a kid already who can block kicks like a boss?
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