There seems to be a plethora of good options for us to hire. It seems that every game I watch has 2 coaches that are better than what we had.
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Fixed it for you.There seems to be a plethora of good options for us to hire. It seems that every gameI watchhas 2 coaches that are better than what we had.
More than two. Plenty of assistants who are better than what he we had tooThere seems to be a plethora of good options for us to hire. It seems that every game I watch has 2 coaches that are better than what we had.
Why did it take 5 years to see this?There seems to be a plethora of good options for us to hire. It seems that every game I watch has 2 coaches that are better than what we had.
It will the next coach too. Look at our previous 4 coaches over the past 20 years. He’ll sign a 5 year contract and realize you can’t win with mid 3* recruits, but that going to be your average at a school like Nebraska.Why did it take 5 years to see this?
pass happy donors in lincoln, probably todd blackledge and bernie kosier fans..Why did it take 5 years to see this?
It didn't.Why did it take 5 years to see this?
It didn’t. Trev saw it last fall but didn’t have the political capital to fire him. A booster of substance told me that last fall.Why did it take 5 years to see this?
So who were the assistants who went to Trev I wonder? Tuioti? Held? Might explain their abrupt departuresThe more things I hear about Frost coming out it seems to me the University would have cause for firing him and save some or all of his buyout. Given the lack of effort we are starting to hear (i.e., going pheasant hunting with his buddy Matt Davison in the heat of the recruiting season, lack of recruiting effort, regularly late to practice and meetings, assistant coaches going to the AD expressing these concerns, etc.) it makes you wonder if there was some covering up within the athletic department (a.k.a. the good ole boy network). Certainly not demonstrating the character traits one would expect as the CEO of a multi-million dollar organization and lifeblood of the athletic department and state.
So, what's your answer?It will the next coach too. Look at our previous 4 coaches over the past 20 years. He’ll sign a 5 year contract and realize you can’t win with mid 3* recruits, but that going to be your average at a school like Nebraska.
I don't think the athletic department wants the drama. They're just glad to be gone with that douche nozzle.. Take your check and GTFOThe more things I hear about Frost coming out it seems to me the University would have cause for firing him and save some or all of his buyout. Given the lack of effort we are starting to hear (i.e., going pheasant hunting with his buddy Matt Davison in the heat of the recruiting season, lack of recruiting effort, regularly late to practice and meetings, assistant coaches going to the AD expressing these concerns, etc.) it makes you wonder if there was some covering up within the athletic department (a.k.a. the good ole boy network). Certainly not demonstrating the character traits one would expect as the CEO of a multi-million dollar organization and lifeblood of the athletic department and state.
It will the next coach too. Look at our previous 4 coaches over the past 20 years. He’ll sign a 5 year contract and realize you can’t win with mid 3* recruits, but that going to be your average at a school like Nebraska.
I think the Covid year screwed up the timeline too. After the first two years one could still make the argument that Frost had been dealt a horrible hand by Riley but was soon going to break out. Then came Covid and one could say that it screwed things up too. But year four should have been the prove it to us or get out year which is why I called for his firing after the Illinois loss which was a disgrace. This is where the folks in charge really dropped the ball. Frost should absolutely have been fired last year.It didn’t. Trev saw it last fall but didn’t have the political capital to fire him. A booster of substance told me that last fall.
It didn't. Should have been obvious year 1.Why did it take 5 years to see this?
You want to have a legal fight over a buyout when you're trying to attract your next head coach? That must be the smartest fans in America talking...The more things I hear about Frost coming out it seems to me the University would have cause for firing him and save some or all of his buyout. Given the lack of effort we are starting to hear (i.e., going pheasant hunting with his buddy Matt Davison in the heat of the recruiting season, lack of recruiting effort, regularly late to practice and meetings, assistant coaches going to the AD expressing these concerns, etc.) it makes you wonder if there was some covering up within the athletic department (a.k.a. the good ole boy network). Certainly not demonstrating the character traits one would expect as the CEO of a multi-million dollar organization and lifeblood of the athletic department and state.
So who were the assistants who went to Trev I wonder? Tuioti? Held? Might explain their abrupt departures
narc'ing on your boss and accepting a promotion in the meantimeI doubt it was Held. My guess is Busch, a guy that’s been around, knows how things should work, and cares deeply about Nebraska.
Poor baby.Why not waive the donations required by season ticket holders as apparently the athletic department has an unlimited pocket book. As a season ticket holder, I'm getting tired of all of my annual donation $ going to buying out coaches contracts due to ongoing dumb decisions by the athletic department extending coaches contracts when no one else is knocking at our door trying to steal them away. Would rather see the donation $ going towards facility improvements etc., which it is intended for. I realize in the Frost situation a donor or two must have stepped up saying they would fork up the extra $7.5M if we fired Frost prior to October 1. Frost should be embarrassed to even accept the buyout given his win/loss record in his 4+ years and the product he put on the field week after week. Of course he is not going to forgo that but, in my mind he should be ashamed to accept it.
And I feel better about Busch IF it was him.narc'ing on your boss and accepting a promotion in the meantime
cold blooded, if true
narc'ing on your boss and accepting a promotion in the meantime
cold blooded, if true
It’s one problem with hiring a native son.The leash Frost got was insane. I never want to hear again how Nebraska goes through too many coaches or isn't fair. No other program in the country would have given Frost a 5th year. Blue blood programs would not have even given him a 4th year. Rich Rodriguez had a winning season in his 3rd year and it wasn't good enough for Michigan.
I agree. The problem is that no one wanted to fire Frost in the first 3 seasons cause “If Frost can’t do it, who can?” Now it is “we’ve been bad so long who will come?” The cyclical self-fulfilling prophesies are hilariousIt’s one problem with hiring a native son.
You have to develop players, control the ball on offense and have a solid defense. That's how Wisconsin has done it for the past 25 years.So, what's your answer?
That is how all good teams do itYou have to develop players, control the ball on offense and have a solid defense. That's how Wisconsin has done it for the past 25 years.
Totally agree, I couldn't care less about the money. On the other hand, if Davison is still employed after this all shakes out I'll be disappointed.You want to have a legal fight over a buyout when you're trying to attract your next head coach? That must be the smartest fans in America talking...
I agree. Reading opinions on different coaches it's clear Trev won't be able to please everyone. On the other hand, we are so bad that whoever he picks will be an upgrade.There seems to be a plethora of good options for us to hire. It seems that every game I watch has 2 coaches that are better than what we had.
There’s more than two at a GPAC gameMore than two. Plenty of assistants who are better than what he we had too
General thoughts:I think the Covid year screwed up the timeline too. After the first two years one could still make the argument that Frost had been dealt a horrible hand by Riley but was soon going to break out. Then came Covid and one could say that it screwed things up too. But year four should have been the prove it to us or get out year which is why I called for his firing after the Illinois loss which was a disgrace. This is where the folks in charge really dropped the ball. Frost should absolutely have been fired last year.
We were close in year 4.General thoughts:
* Year 1. Started 0-6 and needed a last minute makeup/cupcake game against Bethune-Cookman just to buy Frost’s first win and avoid an 0-7 start
* Year 2. Best Frost season ever at 5-7 with blockbuster wins over South Alabama, Northern Illinois, Illinois (6-7), Northwestern (3-9) and Maryland (3–9)
* Year 3. Team votes to quit on only chance for a bowl game over 7 years and counting.
* Year 4: 3–9, but only if you count wins over Fordham and Buffalo.
* Year 5. Arguably worst team in FBS.
Point? Not sure.
Davison has been downsized and relegated to fundraising (plus he does every game radio show with Greg Sharp). Probably stays, as he is supposedly doing good in fundraising.Totally agree, I couldn't care less about the money. On the other hand, if Davison is still employed after this all shakes out I'll be disappointed.
Those stats speak for themselves. Scott Frost was the worst coach in Nebraska history and he proved it from day one. Sadly, the euphoria surrounding his hiring, and his Husker hero status, kept him here far too long.General thoughts:
* Year 1. Started 0-6 and needed a last minute makeup/cupcake game against Bethune-Cookman just to buy Frost’s first win and avoid an 0-7 start
* Year 2. Best Frost season ever at 5-7 with blockbuster wins over South Alabama, Northern Illinois, Illinois (6-7), Northwestern (3-9) and Maryland (3–9)
* Year 3. Team votes to quit on only chance for a bowl game over 7 years and counting.
* Year 4: 3–9, but only if you count wins over Fordham and Buffalo.
* Year 5. Arguably worst team in FBS.
Point? Not sure.
A slight correction, his first win in year 1 was against Minnesota. Not that it matters much, doesn't change the fact he sucked.General thoughts:
* Year 1. Started 0-6 and needed a last minute makeup/cupcake game against Bethune-Cookman just to buy Frost’s first win and avoid an 0-7 start
* Year 2. Best Frost season ever at 5-7 with blockbuster wins over South Alabama, Northern Illinois, Illinois (6-7), Northwestern (3-9) and Maryland (3–9)
* Year 3. Team votes to quit on only chance for a bowl game over 7 years and counting.
* Year 4: 3–9, but only if you count wins over Fordham and Buffalo.
* Year 5. Arguably worst team in FBS.
Point? Not sure.
If you believe the recruiting services' rankings, then we should be above average in the B1G. We certainly shouldn't be losing to the actual bottom-dwellers of the conference (and Georgia Southern and almost North Dakota). Yet, we do lose to these types of teams.It will the next coach too. Look at our previous 4 coaches over the past 20 years. He’ll sign a 5 year contract and realize you can’t win with mid 3* recruits, but that going to be your average at a school like Nebraska.
Only one tiny quibble, in year 1 Frost’s first win was against Minnesota. I was at the game and they looked great. I was like “here we f—-ken go!” Yeah right. I actually think that might be the best the team looked in all phases in Frost’s entire tenure.General thoughts:
* Year 1. Started 0-6 and needed a last minute makeup/cupcake game against Bethune-Cookman just to buy Frost’s first win and avoid an 0-7 start
* Year 2. Best Frost season ever at 5-7 with blockbuster wins over South Alabama, Northern Illinois, Illinois (6-7), Northwestern (3-9) and Maryland (3–9)
* Year 3. Team votes to quit on only chance for a bowl game over 7 years and counting.
* Year 4: 3–9, but only if you count wins over Fordham and Buffalo.
* Year 5. Arguably worst team in FBS.
Point? Not sure.
Also 2018, Frost's first year. There is absolutely zero question that Nebraska football was BETTER in 2018 than it is now. It's maddening.What year was the home signature win against Michigan State? 9-6 all field goals. It was 65 degrees the day before and snowed and dropped to the 30s game day