Fred

[huskerfan1414]

Its still early in the season but we must give Fred credit on what he has done since his first few years.

Most importantly, Fred realized that the lack of rebounding was killing this program, especially giving opponents 2nd chance points. His style of having five guys who fly down the court and chuck threes wasnt going to work in this conference. Rebounding and defense were lacking.

The past two years he has addressed this successfully. We were vastly improved in rebounding last year and at least for this game. We ended up only +2 in rebounding so it doesnt look crazy but it is when you consider how bad we used to be.

If Im not mistaken Creighton had zero second chance points. Remarkable turnaround.

 

[schuele]

Rebounding has definitely improved. I would also rank movement without the ball as a huge reason for the turnaround. Fred’s early offenses were too often one guy playing and four guys spectating.

 

[SickOfPractice]

Congrats to Fred & the Huskers! A win over Creighton certainly gives one hope this team might be competitive & fun to follow this year.

 

[TarheelHuskerFan]

Team looks good and very deep. Looking forward to them getting even better as the season progresses

 

[dinglefritz]

Its still early in the season but we must give Fred credit on what he has done since his first few years.

Most importantly, Fred realized that the lack of rebounding was killing this program, especially giving opponents 2nd chance points. His style of having five guys who fly down the court and chuck threes wasnt going to work in this conference. Rebounding and defense were lacking.

The past two years he has addressed this successfully. We were vastly improved in rebounding last year and at least for this game. We ended up only +2 in rebounding so it doesnt look crazy but it is when you consider how bad we used to be.

If Im not mistaken Creighton had zero second chance points. Remarkable turnaround.

So you're telling me that a head coach who in his first 3 years underperformed and struggled with his game day coaching at times can turn things around by recruiting the right players and replacing assistants? Now that's a revelation. I would say that the majority opinion on this board a couple of years ago was that Fred needed to be fired......

 

[king_kong_]

So you're telling me that a head coach who in his first 3 years underperformed and struggled with his game day coaching at times can turn things around by recruiting the right players and replacing assistants? Now that's a revelation. I would say that the majority opinion on this board a couple of years ago was that Fred needed to be fired......

That was certainly my opinion

Hand up

 

[dinglefritz]

That was certainly my opinion

Hand up

Do you thing that type of turn around for a head coach is possible in any other sports? Asking for a friend.

 

[king_kong_]

Do you thing that type of turn around for a head coach is possible in any other sports? Asking for a friend.

Sure, it’s possible.

Just unlikely.

 

[HuskerJag]

That was certainly my opinion

Hand up

Oh yeah, I would have fired him in year 1. That team was an absolute disgrace.

 

[BHoppy]

Congrats on your win last night against Creighton. Nice win!

 

[Antwill]

Fred's early offenses were HORRIBLE. Most of the time was guys dribbling around and then hoisting up a contested three.

So glad he was able to course correct and figure out what he needed to compete in the B1G.

Now go get that tourney win!

 

[SomedayHusker]

Fred has done something no other Nebraska basketball and maybe any basketball coach has done in multiple ways. First he had the worst 3 years of any coach in school history. Then he turned that around to make the NCAA tournament.

For all the hate Trev gets, Fred turned a corner literally mid-season exactly when Trev got here, with no staff or team changes at that point. Pretty remarkable.

 

[king_kong_]

Fred has done something no other Nebraska basketball and maybe any basketball coach has done in multiple ways. First he had the worst 3 years of any coach in school history. Then he turned that around to make the NCAA tournament.

For all the hate Trev gets, Fred turned a corner literally mid-season exactly when Trev got here, with no staff or team changes at that point. Pretty remarkable.

Zeigler and Howard joined the staff, 3 original members departed - including his top recruiter - ahead of the turnaround

Wrong again.

 

[schuele]

Fred has done something no other Nebraska basketball and maybe any basketball coach has done in multiple ways. First he had the worst 3 years of any coach in school history. Then he turned that around to make the NCAA tournament.

For all the hate Trev gets, Fred turned a corner literally mid-season exactly when Trev got here, with no staff or team changes at that point. Pretty remarkable.

That’s not exactly true. The turnaround started when Derrick Walker rejoined the 22-23 team and NU started running a motion offense centered around him. Tominaga began to thrive and other guys also became more productive. Team went from unwatchable to pretty decent.

If Trev had anything to do with that, good for him. But I will always be a big fan of Walker for making it work.

 

[king_kong_]

That’s not exactly true. The turnaround started when Derrick Walker rejoined the 22-23 team and NU started running a motion offense centered around him. Tominaga began to thrive and other guys also became more productive. Team went from unwatchable to pretty decent.

If Trev had anything to do with that, good for him. But I will always be a big fan of Walker for making it work.

You’ll have to forgive his shoddy memory.

He’s very, very stupid.

 

[Harry Caray]

Fred has done something no other Nebraska basketball and maybe any basketball coach has done in multiple ways. First he had the worst 3 years of any coach in school history. Then he turned that around to make the NCAA tournament.

Getting rid of Matt Abdelmassih and bringing in Nate Loenser is one of the main reasons we've shown so much improvement in the last 2.5 years. Matt was toxic and hated being here. Nate is one of the best assistants in the country. I can't believe nobody has hired him to be a head coach yet.

 

[oldjar07]

So you're telling me that a head coach who in his first 3 years underperformed and struggled with his game day coaching at times can turn things around by recruiting the right players and replacing assistants? Now that's a revelation. I would say that the majority opinion on this board a couple of years ago was that Fred needed to be fired......

Well that actually needs to happen. And historical expectations between basketball and football programs isn't in the same universe. People got tired of 9 and 10 win seasons with Pelini pretty quickly. So even if things do improve, will it be enough?

 

[dinglefritz]

Getting rid of Matt Abdelmassih and bringing in Nate Loenser is one of the main reasons we've shown so much improvement in the last 2.5 years. Matt was toxic and hated being here. Nate is one of the best assistants in the country. I can't believe nobody has hired him to be a head coach yet.

It was a LOT more financially prudent to churn assistants than the head coach especially when by most accounts that coach is doing everything he can to win and run the program the right way. There’s a lesson in that for athletic directors and fans IMO.

 

[oldjar07]

It was a LOT more financially prudent to churn assistants than the head coach especially when by most accounts that coach is doing everything he can to win and run the program the right way. There’s a lesson in that for athletic directors and fans IMO.

Well no shit.

 

[Baxter48]

Well that actually needs to happen. And historical expectations between basketball and football programs isn't in the same universe. People got tired of 9 and 10 win seasons with Pelini pretty quickly. So even if things do improve, will it be enough?

Again if Bo was such a great head coach why is he unemployed

 

[timnsun]

Well no shit.

Talk about shitting on other people’s posts… you’ve gotten quite good at that.

 

[oldjar07]

Again if Bo was such a great head coach why is he unemployed

Never said Bo was a great head coach. But he's better than anything we've had since at least Solich.

 

[oldjar07]

Talk about shitting on other people’s posts… you’ve gotten quite good at that.

I wasn't shitting on his post, I was agreeing with him. Why don't you ever just **** off. I don't want anything to do with you.

 

[cubsker]

Fred's first team probably set the ncaa record for most missed layups. It was incredible.

 

[timnsun]

I wasn't shitting on his post, I was agreeing with him. Why don't you ever just **** off. I don't want anything to do with you.

It was a snide comment. Agreeing would have been, “good point,” or “I agree with you.”

“Well no shit” is a snide response. If you didn’t want anything to do with me you shouldn’t have shit on me in my thread.

It’s a free board, I can post what I want, as long as I’m not breaking any rules. So guess you’ll just have to put me on ignore if you don’t want anything to do with me. It’s really that simple.

 

[cubsker]

You two should meet at HyVee

 

[timnsun]

You two should meet at HyVee

Back to this thread being about Hoiberg. My bad for derailing it.

 

[weiddj]

Back to this thread being about Hoiberg. My bad for derailing it.

Ha, OL Hy-Vee fights. Better times.

 

[Harry Caray]

Again if Bo was such a great head coach why is he unemployed

Why was Bo able to win 9-10 games every year while every other coach here struggles just to have one .500 season?

 

[Baxter48]

Why was Bo able to win 9-10 games every year while every other coach here struggles just to have one .500 season?

He was able to do it with Callahan players, when they started to run out he really struggled and he admitted he didn’t like to recruit

 

[Harry Caray]

He was able to do it with Callahan players, when they started to run out he really struggled and he admitted he didn’t like to recruit

He was still winning 9-10 games with all of his own recruits

 

[Baxter48]

He was still winning 9-10 games with all of his own recruits

Can’t argue with that, just wasn’t sorry to see him leave the disaster was hiring Mike Riley

 

[HuskerAlum92]

I was always in the camp that we should keep Fred. I know how cursed Nebraska basketball has been. Starting over with a new coach wasn’t going to change anything. As long as Fred was out there working and trying, not mailing it in like Frost, I felt like he should just keep going.

If he wins a tournament game, he will be loved for life.

 

[mgbreis]

It was a snide comment. Agreeing would have been, “good point,” or “I agree with you.”

“Well no shit” is a snide response. If you didn’t want anything to do with me you shouldn’t have shit on me in my thread.

It’s a free board, I can post what I want, as long as I’m not breaking any rules. So guess you’ll just have to put me on ignore if you don’t want anything to do with me. It’s really that simple.

Are there any rules here?

 

[huskerfan1414]

So you're telling me that a head coach who in his first 3 years underperformed and struggled with his game day coaching at times can turn things around by recruiting the right players and replacing assistants? Now that's a revelation. I would say that the majority opinion on this board a couple of years ago was that Fred needed to be fired......

I didnt think so. I was calling for a lifetime contract

 

[IowaHuskr]

Zeigler and Howard joined the staff, 3 original members departed - including his top recruiter - ahead of the turnaround

Wrong again.

The turnaround started when he decided Matty A. was a trip to nowhere for this program. Then he observed how his old assistant T.J. at Iowa State took them to the promised land so quickly. The answer is defense, rebounding, strength and conditioning plus bringing in the needed transfers with the proper character and team orientation. Things are going in the right direction and Fred figured it out.

 

[HuskerHusaria]

I didnt think so. I was calling for a lifetime contract

Anything this guy says, you can take it to the bank. He knows his shit and long time friend.

*Tips my hat*