Filling out the Roster
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Okay, then identify those guys we can push out. Somehow I'm the bad guy because I'm defending our roster from those who demand attrition and can't even identify by name who they want gone??
Unfortunately he is out. But he and a Casey Thompson type of QB is exactly what we need:
That’s Rhule’s Job. When he’s taking high school guys he has said repeatedly that he won’t offer a guy who doesn’t have NFL measurables. He wants verified speed and athleticism. He knows after a spring and fall camp who is replaceable. This is what bigtime roster management looks like. No more 5 year seniors on the roster as 3rd teamers. You get a couple of camps to show your potential.
Identify those guys who are 5th year seniors who are 3rd teamers? They either A. Don't exist, B. Were already let go, or C. Are already guaranteed to come back.
Sweet God Almighty.
we're at 94 currently, so here are 9 for you:
IGC
D'Andre Barnes
Ru'Quan Buckley
Jacob Hood
Mason Goldman
Rahmir Stewart
Corey Collier
Rahmir Johnson
Kaine Williams
Agree with needing an impact RB for next year. Watching the CFB playoff games, and other bowl games, it is clear that a quality RB complements the other offensive positions. Getting 4 yards on a designed running play by quickly hitting the hole instead of only getting no gain (or 1-2 yards) makes the OL look better. Keeps the offense in much more manageable down and distance, which takes a ton of pressure off the QB/WRs. Having more 3rd and 3 (or less) minimizes the need to force plays like they do on 3rd and long all the time.
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Rahmir: not good enough to start in 5 years and injury prone
Gabe: looks good and injury prone
We'll probably take at least 2 more, and even this list isn't without its problems. As of this moment, IGC would be starting. Rahmir Johnson would be getting a lot of PT and I don't think he's leaving. We may have a different RB leave we wouldn't want, however. Buckley is the only decent backup NT option we have. I'll agree the rest of the guys haven't really shown anything yet, but who knows how the staff feels about them.
Edit: Just looked it up, half these guys were true freshman this year. Don't know how it's a fair shake to say we should get rid of them when the only chance they've probably gotten is on the freshman scout team.
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everything you typed here is wrong.
IGC stinks, he's finished
Rahmir's finished
not only is Buckley not "the only decent backup NT option we have", he's not even listed as a DL anymore.
2 more spots would also be easy to find.
I don't get the Gabe hype either, looks like a marshmallow with legs
Yep. May be a hulk but has no acceleration, top end speed or vision. Nebraska is due for some good running backs and we need to make it happen.
There are 9 guys listed as seniors on the "scholarship" chart provided by this site, that can all be moved from football scholarship to NIL, no questions asked. Another 5 listed as juniors that transferred into Nebraska or that were previous walk ons that can also be put on NIL because they aren't protected by the 4 year scholarship rule.
The fact that none of us really know who is on scholarship and who is walking on and getting NIL money in lieu of scholarship. So it is quite impossible to even have the conversation about how many scholarships we are over or what conversations have been had between 1890 and certain players.
I expect to see attrition after the spring without a doubt. Also without a doubt there will be 1 or 2 surprises.
Yep. 100%. Also need to find winners. Winners win and Losers worry about winners.
Fair is a big part of why we suck, it is a business, esp now with NIL and the portal. For some schools it has been for awhile.
So, again, the internet is your friend and research is something that should be done instead of just making shit up.
2023 class, here is a list of the 5.5 3 stars
Here are the 2024
That is 16 in total. Koch is a walk on so that it is down to 15. Of the 7 in the 2023 class 5 redshirted, 1 was the starting kicker and the other was the 3rd leading receiver in yardage, leader in average yard per catch and 2nd in touchdowns. That leaves 5 of this level of recruit from that class. I would assume the production of those 2 (5.5 3 stars) that played was better than the expected contribution.
Of the 8 in 2024 class, that fit @oldjar07 's criteria for whatever he is trying to describe with his arbitrary 5.5 3 stars, I would expect all 8 to redshirt and get a year to develop.
I wouldn't expect any of the 2023 players to be cycled out, and a couple of them, may get some time on the field as RS freshmen.
2023 class, here is a list of the 5.5 3 stars
| Brice Turner | WR | Bay City, TX | 6'2" | 165 | 5.5 | 12/6/22 SIGNED | |
Kwinten Ives | ATH | Palmyra, NJ | 6'3" | 180 | 5.5 | 12/11/22 SIGNED | |
Tristan Alvano | K | Omaha, NE | 6'1" | 179 | 5.5 | 12/16/22 SIGNED | |
Jaylen Lloyd | WR | Omaha, NE | 6'1" | 160 | 5.5 | 12/17/22 SIGNED | |
Jason Maciejczak | DT | Pierre, SD | 6'4" | 320 | 5.5 | 12/19/22 SIGNED | |
D'Andre Barnes | DB | Aurora, CO | 6'0" | 175 | 5.5 | 2/1/23 SIGNED | |
Jeremiah Charles | WR | Arlington, TX | 6'2" | 170 | 5.4 | 1/23/23 |
Here are the 2024
| Jake Peters | OL | Cedar Falls, IA | 6'3" | 260 | 5.5 | 6/18/23 SIGNED | |
Braylen Prude | ATH | Pearland, TX | 6'4" | 190 | 5.5 | 6/18/23 SIGNED | |
Evan Taylor | DB | Waxhaw, NC | 6'2" | 170 | 5.5 | 6/19/23 SIGNED | |
Landen Davidson | OL | Broomfield, CO | 6'4" | 295 | 5.5 | 6/20/23 SIGNED | |
Donovan Jones | DB | Omaha, NE | 6'1" | 185 | 5.5 | 6/22/23 SIGNED | |
Rex Guthrie | DB | Littleton, CO | 6'1" | 200 | 5.5 | 6/26/23 SIGNED | |
Quinn Clark | WR | Bozeman, MT | 6'5" | 190 | 5.5 | 6/27/23 SIGNED | |
Eric Ingwerson | TE | Paillion, NE | 6'7" | 225 | 5.5 | 9/27/23 SIGNED | |
Kamdyn Koch | K | Westminster, MD | 6'3" | 190 | 5.4 | 6/11/23 |
That is 16 in total. Koch is a walk on so that it is down to 15. Of the 7 in the 2023 class 5 redshirted, 1 was the starting kicker and the other was the 3rd leading receiver in yardage, leader in average yard per catch and 2nd in touchdowns. That leaves 5 of this level of recruit from that class. I would assume the production of those 2 (5.5 3 stars) that played was better than the expected contribution.
Of the 8 in 2024 class, that fit @oldjar07 's criteria for whatever he is trying to describe with his arbitrary 5.5 3 stars, I would expect all 8 to redshirt and get a year to develop.
I wouldn't expect any of the 2023 players to be cycled out, and a couple of them, may get some time on the field as RS freshmen.
Exactly.
Guys are being processed. It's not hard to see.
Just because Rhule doesn't hold a presser with a megaphone and scream "Player XYZ has been "encouraged" to explore his options in the portal" doesn't mean it's not happening.
We should know by Thursday evening or Friday morning if there is anymore entries into the portal during this cycle. Deadline for non bowl teams was midnight last night. Then account for 2 days for the school to process. Worst case scenario is Thursday/Frida at Midnight.
But again, the next window will open up after spring, that is where the attrition will really take place. Players will have had 14 practices and a spring game to determine where and if they fit. Plus a semester for the other schools to poach and for Nebraska to poach some other players.
But again, the next window will open up after spring, that is where the attrition will really take place. Players will have had 14 practices and a spring game to determine where and if they fit. Plus a semester for the other schools to poach and for Nebraska to poach some other players.
What really doesn't happen much is a losing program in desperate need of a QB signing the top QB in the nation. If everything goes according to plan, the kid is going to play right away. And he will play better than Jeff Simms. I guarantee it!
Now a second question is whether or not they will bring in a journeyman type who would serve as a high floor backup. Maybe a grad transfer as a walk-on with a decent NIL deal. We'll see on that. There are over 2000 kids in the portal right now and the list is growing. But I think they'll see what happens during spring ball and go from there. If Haarberg shows improvement, he would be exactly the kid of player we are talking about. Of course, people on here would bitch about it but what else is new?
You are 5 years behind the times. Guys like Rahmir and IGC probably aren't even on scholarship. Guys who have injury histories or older minor contributors are likely just on NIL. They don't count against anything.
To expand further, 3 of those from the 2023 list are major track athletes. We have already hit on Lloyd IMO. You hit on one more and you are talking some unbelievable speed for a team that has consistently lacked athletes IMO.
The Taylor kid had a major injury this fall and he did not sign a letter of intent. He's coming on a NIL deal just like Koch. And I believe there was at least one other kid on our commitment list who didn't sign a letter of intent, but I can't remember for sure who that was. And I agree 100% that they are not cycling out any of the freshmen-- if a kid leaves it will be on his own or for off the field issues.
Going forward, if a kid has already graduated, it's a good bet that they will not be on scholarship. Only the best players will retain a scholarship in that situation.
The coaches talked about Taylor on the signing day stuff and he is listed as signed on everything I have seen. He is also coming in in January to continue his rehab. Ruggerolli, the OL from Las Vegas is the other player besides Koch that didn't sign anything.
I could be wrong about Taylor, but believe he did sign an NLI.
It wasn't talked about publicly. Koch, Taylor and yes, the Vegas kid as well. So three, maybe four-- but I would like to hear it from a second source before I give out a name. In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens if these high priority walkons make it. Will they get a scholarship or just get more NIL, or both?
I feel like if we can roll Taylor Martinez and Adrian Martinez out as freshman we should be able to rollout the #1 qb in the country out as a freshman
Rahmir, Gabe and EJ are fine RBs, but there are kids that are simply a cut above them. NU needs at least one of them on the roster.
Did you ask those 9 seniors if they're going to be happy with that? A lot of those guys form the core of the team and we're lucky some of them even decided to come back. You think they're just going to be fine going without a scholarship no questions asked? Especially since 10 of those scholarships went to 5.5 3 stars and a few more to transfers.
I believe there’s some older returning starters who will be on NIL deals and not on scholarship anymore. Why would they care as long as they get paid.
Kind of the same as everyone else here? And I'm not the one effectively saying we need to get rid of a dozen-plus guys on the roster so we can continue recruiting, and yet noone can produce a realistic list naming who those guys should be.
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