TA threw for nearly 400 yards and 58% with one INT. Pretty close to sixty percent and zero if you ask me. He's never going to be perfect going to have to find ways to erase a few of our mistakes, turnover margin seems to be going our way this year
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Overall, I'm pleased. 2nd game of the year, hard for me to expect perfection, and it's most everybodies 2nd game of the year (i.e. still kinks to work out for everyone).
The captain obvious:
At least it should be obvious. Stack the box, blah, blah, blah, stack the box. We are running two TE sets, FB and RB, bunched tight formations. We are gonna see more defenders in the box, if we continue with these formations. So please stop the blah, blah, blah, stack the box.
The bad:
Special teams - OMG! I don't think we fielded a single punt against Wyoming. And from what I remember Fresno was bad too. Punter decides to fake it and run? Should the head coach be surprised that we fake a punt? WTF! Maybe averaging around 30 yards/punt.
Run game - TFLs. Maybe it was blitzing LB's, and I didn't count a total, but we took some losses on run plays. Not good.
Ball on the ground - was it 4 times against Wyoming? Whatever the number, it needs worked on.
Penalties - Do our guys know that you're supposed to stop after the whistle blows?
The Good:
WINS! - we are almost halfway to our last year win total and we're only 2 games in.
#runthedamnballguy - yyyyyeahhhh baby. We are using these quasi-jumbo sets and it appears to my untrained eye that it's helping our passing game (isolating wide-outs, uncovered TE's off the line of scrimmage).
Passing game - just a general based-on-nothing feel, but it doesn't appear that we are putting TA in as many opportunities to fail (and no, I'm not talking about the Fresno runfest).
Another week and another game, I'll be looking forward to it.
The captain obvious:
At least it should be obvious. Stack the box, blah, blah, blah, stack the box. We are running two TE sets, FB and RB, bunched tight formations. We are gonna see more defenders in the box, if we continue with these formations. So please stop the blah, blah, blah, stack the box.
The bad:
Special teams - OMG! I don't think we fielded a single punt against Wyoming. And from what I remember Fresno was bad too. Punter decides to fake it and run? Should the head coach be surprised that we fake a punt? WTF! Maybe averaging around 30 yards/punt.
Run game - TFLs. Maybe it was blitzing LB's, and I didn't count a total, but we took some losses on run plays. Not good.
Ball on the ground - was it 4 times against Wyoming? Whatever the number, it needs worked on.
Penalties - Do our guys know that you're supposed to stop after the whistle blows?
The Good:
WINS! - we are almost halfway to our last year win total and we're only 2 games in.
#runthedamnballguy - yyyyyeahhhh baby. We are using these quasi-jumbo sets and it appears to my untrained eye that it's helping our passing game (isolating wide-outs, uncovered TE's off the line of scrimmage).
Passing game - just a general based-on-nothing feel, but it doesn't appear that we are putting TA in as many opportunities to fail (and no, I'm not talking about the Fresno runfest).
Another week and another game, I'll be looking forward to it.
This was Wyoming not Ohio State - If we cannot impose our will on the running game against Wyoming what hope is there to run against the better defenses. So we instead take the easy road - then bitch and moan when TA throws a dumb int in the red zone - If we had a game manager at QB you are exactly correct but that is not what we have. So I guess that means we see another 50 passes against Purdue because they bring another player into the box
Agreed. I was at the game and thought if we couldn't enforce our will in this game where we had a definite size advantage then what does this spell for future games. Our coaches have historically out coached themselves. Including the last 2 staffs on offense. If this defense would not have had 6 turnovers gained, we would be feeling not so happy with our offensive coordinator.
Unfortunately thread to read. We really enjoyed the game, from start to finish. Hoping for our fourth straight win, and a 3-0 start to the new season.
Wyo had once chance and they stuck to their game plan. They were going to force Tommy to bet them with his arm. We only averaged 3.2 yards per carry on 43 attempts. You won't win many games at that rate. Wyo was doing it by anchoring the ends, keeping everything inside. We broke several plays outside against FSU and they didn't want that. They then filled each gap with a backer which accounts for the many stops behind the line. The dare is to throw the ball and eventually that is what Langsdorf did. People can complain all day long about "pounding the rock" but this team is just not good enough yet to pound when they are outnumbered. They have to rely on taking what is available.
The formations shouldn't make that much difference. Your are taking a 200 lb receiver out and putting in a 250 lb TE. The other option is to spread teams out with multiple WR's. Wyo didn't have the speed and athletes to stay with the Huskers all day long. They took changes and it worked for a while. That is the way it goes with blitzing.
You can count on teams putting as many players close to the LOS as possible and forcing Tommy to beat them throwing or running straight at them. How many times did you see our O line fire out and Tommy go back to hand off to DO only to see two Wyo guys waiting for him a yard or two in the backfield. We didn't account for people very well.
What little I watched of Oregon they were blitzing fairly often as well. The screen game was meant for teams doing what Wyo was doing. There were times when they really didn't even block anyone, Wyo players just took themselves out of the play on the blitz.
It will be interesting to see what things look like when we face a D in Oregon that is equally if not faster. The windows to throw the ball into are much smaller. The timing needs to be better, Tommy needs to get rid of it a second quicker and throw the ball to get the WR open. Ideally, yes we would run the ball and maybe that will happen in the second half but I see Oregon hanging around early just because of their athletic ability.
I agree our special teams are horrible. I have no clue why Read is even kept around. He should be lights out with the players he has on special teams but he is not. I am simply not impressed. I guess the good is you could say we are overdue to DPE to bust one.
We basically are taking what the opponent gives us. That is smart. Not happy?
That is fine to say that but Wyo was stopping exactly that. Where was the outside game? How many jet sweeps did you see?
That's what I was getting at in the thread about Bohl. When we are talking about other coaches, its a "smart move" by an "expert staff".
When we do it, its abandoning a philosophy by a bunch of numbskulls who somehow managed to get hired here.
Against top competition yes, absolutely against Wyoming we should be able to run the ball play defense and control the game. This without taking the chance TA throws a bunch of int's, which will eventually happen
Well should and real world don't always line up.
I for one, don't want to run into a brick wall 3/4 of the time, if we have a reasonable expectation of success mixing it up.
Certainly, a humming NU squad should probably run over Wyoming most of the time. But we were running into at least a little trouble saturday. If you asked my opinion, a Georgia squad should have ran all over Nicholls as well. But life doesn't always co operate.
Alabama and Michigan ran about as well as or worse than we did on Saturday. We aren't running the option anymore, we don't have an abundance of methods for countering a stacked box on the ground the way we did twenty years ago. That's okay. If we can credibly attack seven and eight man fronts with passes we won't see them that often and we are good enough to run against what we will see. Win or lose Saturday, the trajectory is improving.
Dude, c'mon. 52-17. You gotta get off TA's nuts once in awhile. He's not the worst QB in the history of mankind. I was hacked when he threw that INT in the end zone. But to be fair, he played much better the rest of the game. I saw him throw it away more than once. I'm optimistic that he's learning. Tommy is going to be here all year barring injury. So, instead of crowning 2016 the year of Armstrong fail, how about we let it play out first?
Loved our screen game. Really would like to see TA get more consistent with that game to game. It could be deadly.
No, it doesn't always work that way. We ran the ball 43 times. Should we have run it 60? 70? Would that have made you happy? If we did that, I can pretty well guarantee the final score is a lot closer than 52-17.
This is ridiculous... We ran it 43 TIMES! What should we have done differently? Seriously...
And please don't say impose our will with the running game. Be objective, look at what the defense did, how they stopped out running game, and how we took advantage of what they left for us. The way I see it this kind of game can help us against future opponents. Oregon coaches can't just say, "we just have to stop the run." Now they know we can still beat them through the air. They know we can run. They know we can pass. That's a good thing.
Whatever - sure you are. You must be clueless about resumes for the coaches of the two teams - why don't you actually read them and then trot out your argument. Laughable; but your opinion counts - I just hate to see someone throwing a blanket over others; because they are right fighters. Bohl deserves props; but at each level the players and coaches rise in level of competition. Not so easy.
This is a sage answer; even T O was known for punishing teams through the air for overplaying the run. Coaching 101.
GBR
I'm actually more worried about the ducks offense. Which I don't know if they're still doing uptempo, I hope not. Their qb transfer Prukop (?) is completing around 70% of his passes, with a 180+ qb rating. So even if we can shut down Freeman running the ball, we can still get stung in the passing game.
On a side note, I punished myself by watching most of the texas notre dame game. It was funny watching texas snap the ball while ND defenders were running around out of position with heads turned talking to each other. It won't be funny if that happens to us.
Will be a good game for us to win, but we can't make a bunch of mistakes or give up a bunch of penalty yards at the wrong time (is there a "right" time?). This will be a good yardstick game for us.
I wasn't impressed with their running back at all. I think they should have put it in the hands of their qb a lot more often earlier in the game. He had to force things though when they fell behind.
I felt worse frankly and I was at the game near WYO fans. I know all their chants now. Their fans were pretty surprised how long they hung with us. Hopefully this was just an off game. Yeah we scored 52 but everybody knows it was much closer than that. I didn't see much of a pass rush at all. We did contain most of their running play. Just no real excitement except for a few big plays on offense. I would love nothing more than to see a different, energized group (and fans) out there against OR. I watched the OR game and I think we have more than our hands full. They looked like a pretty good team and we looked so-so. Hopefully it's the other way around this Saturday and we can get a W. This is a big game no matter how you look at it. GBR.
Funny, because some of their own sportswriters aren't all that impressed with how they've played so far. In fact, one writer says they may be "in over their helmets". I can practically guarantee that if the opponents this past weekend were exactly reversed-that we had played Virginia and played them exactly like Oregon had played them and they had played Wyoming and played them exactly like we had played them, that the reaction from people like you would be exactly the same as to who played better-you would still say they looked like a pretty good team and we looked so-so because people like you always judge us more harshly than you do our opponents.
I feel much better after Wyoming than I did after Fresno State. I'm holding judgment for Oregon. Going into Fresno State I was expecting to slaughter them, after the first half all the wind was out of my sails. Going into Wyoming I expected a tough game, and got what I expected. It's very apparent Tommy has maxed out, and has not improved. If we call a game around his ability this is a 10 win team with this schedule, and think that's a miracle based on what we had last year.
This isn't our year, but at least we will be respectable vs. what we saw last, and will have the trajectory to have a very nice 2017. One thing I'm learning to do is control my expectations.
This isn't our year, but at least we will be respectable vs. what we saw last, and will have the trajectory to have a very nice 2017. One thing I'm learning to do is control my expectations.
Ya, I watched about 10 minutes of the Virginia game a la youtube fast forward style. I really, really want us to do well in the game (who doesn't right). Riley and Banker are gonna know how to prepare the team for Oregon's offense, planning and execution need to meet though. For special teams, I don't know. I have a fatalistic attitude that if it takes Oregon 5 plays in a minute to score from their 40, it'll just take them 6 plays and 1:20 to score from their 20. Force more plays per possession for Oregon, more opportunities for mistakes on their part though. They like to commit penalties.
Oregon is not the best team in country, but what they do puts them in a position to beat just about anybody. In the end I think we will beat Oregon, and we'll be heading into Madison 7 and 0.
In topic for this thread, overall I'm liking what we are doing at this point.
People, we are average (as a group) on the offensive and defensive lines and razor thin. Thanks Bo. What were you guys expecting this year?
Along with that, we have above average to good athletes at a lot of positions, but few elite playmakers, especially on D.
Great players can cover up problems on the Oline and Dline. This year we are doing what we can with what we have, minus penalties and special teams.
We are filling these problems with recruiting, slowly but surely.
Things are looking up.
Along with that, we have above average to good athletes at a lot of positions, but few elite playmakers, especially on D.
Great players can cover up problems on the Oline and Dline. This year we are doing what we can with what we have, minus penalties and special teams.
We are filling these problems with recruiting, slowly but surely.
Things are looking up.
Yup. We shouldn't kid ourselves and think that we've stockpiled talent just because we have a new staff. Well put maly.
I won't dispute that claim that I would judge the Huskers more harshly because i do want them to perform well. However, I am reflecting on what I saw last Saturday and maybe that's not enough of a sample to base an opinion, and that's why I stated that I hope we are the "pretty good" team come Saturday. GBR.
This is something I've heard other people say, and I just don't get it. Why is judging your team more harshly than others connected with wanting them to do well? To me, judging your team more harshly than others mean you pick out all the problems and maximize their importance while glossing over many of the problems on other teams. Why not judge them on an even playing field? I believe I judge us on an even playing field or even give us the benefit of the doubt sometimes that I wouldn't give other teams. I want to judge us in the most positive light possible. Does that mean I don't want them to perform well? Of course not.
To me, saying that judging your own team more harshly than others means you want them to perform well means you see your role more like that of a coach-because that's what a coach does. Coaches of course have to be a more harsher judge of their own team because they need to correct any problems. But we're not coaches. We don't need to point out all of the problems so we can correct them. That's the coaches job, not ours. It's like we've heard many times when people say they are worried about a particular upcoming game, because "we"(meaning fans) aren't taking it seriously enough-as if fans not taking a game seriously enough is going to have an effect on how the team plays. In the same way, if you aren't a harsher judge of your team than others, it doesn't mean that the team is going to play worse or isn't going to correct the mistakes you see. Instead, I think doing so gives you a biased view of how good we are-biased in the negative way, which isn't any better than having a too positive or optimistic view.
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