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I recall hearing that Warner got banged up during camp and had to sit out a bit.Yikes, safety looks pretty thin behind the starters. Surprised at the OLB order and Miller getting the nod at the other ILB spot.
Warner & Hunt seem to have slid a bit.
Seems like Will Farniok would do fine at Center and Miller/Honas as the third LB. We aren't deep at either, but I think we could sustain one injury. Not sure that is the case at Safety, there isn't much after the starters there.2 positions scare me
ILB and Center
We are one injury away from being good to not being good at both
I'm not surprised by Collin Miller being listed first above Honas. You could see in their play last year Miller was more physically ready, and Honas seems to think too much. I am a little surprised by the OLB spots. I was hoping Domann would really step it up and I thought Tannor would require another year to get comfortable. I don't care how many articles say he's improved, I'm still not sold on Alex Davis. There was a bunch of people saying the same thing last year and he just makes too many mistakes. From what I saw last year, Ferguson was a much more solid player and played faster than Davis.
Nice paragraph breaks. I'm impressed!I'm not surprised by Collin Miller being listed first above Honas. You could see in their play last year Miller was more physically ready, and Honas seems to think too much. I am a little surprised by the OLB spots. I was hoping Domann would really step it up and I thought Tannor would require another year to get comfortable. I don't care how many articles say he's improved, I'm still not sold on Alex Davis. There was a bunch of people saying the same thing last year and he just makes too many mistakes. From what I saw last year, Ferguson was a much more solid player and played faster than Davis.
Another thing of note is the Davis twins beating out Stille at D end. Some people on here were calling him the next Grant Wistrom, but Stille's play never really stood out to me. Carlos Davis is much more solid against the run, and the Davis twins are athletic enough to be disruptive in the passing game.
Also I'm kind of glad Ty Robinson and Green aren't listed and may be looking at redshirts. Even though they probably could play a lot this year, it would be good to have some separation from this year's deep defensive line to provide depth for the years to come.
Frost told everyone not to get too caught up in this thing. There are still pieces sorting themselves out and we still have games to play. He warned you, up to you to listen.
I'm not surprised by Collin Miller being listed first above Honas. You could see in their play last year Miller was more physically ready, and Honas seems to think too much. I am a little surprised by the OLB spots. I was hoping Domann would really step it up and I thought Tannor would require another year to get comfortable. I don't care how many articles say he's improved, I'm still not sold on Alex Davis. There was a bunch of people saying the same thing last year and he just makes too many mistakes. From what I saw last year, Ferguson was a much more solid player and played faster than Davis.
Another thing of note is the Davis twins beating out Stille at D end. Some people on here were calling him the next Grant Wistrom, but Stille's play never really stood out to me. Carlos Davis is much more solid against the run, and the Davis twins are athletic enough to be disruptive in the passing game.
Also I'm kind of glad Ty Robinson and Green aren't listed and may be looking at redshirts. Even though they probably could play a lot this year, it would be good to have some separation from this year's deep defensive line to provide depth for the years to come.
It is now time for the yearly, "That true freshman isn't starting, he must be a bust".
I agree with everything you say here. I especially agree with your comments on Stille and Alex Davis.I'm not surprised by Collin Miller being listed first above Honas. You could see in their play last year Miller was more physically ready, and Honas seems to think too much. I am a little surprised by the OLB spots. I was hoping Domann would really step it up and I thought Tannor would require another year to get comfortable. I don't care how many articles say he's improved, I'm still not sold on Alex Davis. There was a bunch of people saying the same thing last year and he just makes too many mistakes. From what I saw last year, Ferguson was a much more solid player and played faster than Davis.
Another thing of note is the Davis twins beating out Stille at D end. Some people on here were calling him the next Grant Wistrom, but Stille's play never really stood out to me. Carlos Davis is much more solid against the run, and the Davis twins are athletic enough to be disruptive in the passing game.
Also I'm kind of glad Ty Robinson and Green aren't listed and may be looking at redshirts. Even though they probably could play a lot this year, it would be good to have some separation from this year's deep defensive line to provide depth for the years to come.
I won’t give you crap on paragraph breaks...because it’s about football, not grammar or English classes. But I agree with you on most things you said. But I have been high on Caleb Tannor every since we landed that guy and stole him from the SEC and Georgia. Dude has the one thing most our LBs don’t...SPEED. Now he’s gotten bigger and ready to rock. JoJo will do some special things too but Tannor is the future at OLB.
...and those would be the same Frosh that people are screaming Coach X deserves raise for recruiting
wasn't there a lot of excitement and a writeup on Zach Schlager a week or so ago?
did he get hurt?
Transfer that will likely have to sit out a yearwasn't there a lot of excitement and a writeup on Zach Schlager a week or so ago?
did he get hurt?
Looking at the Depth Chart, we have a freshman Center with a freshman Center backup. We have a freshman WR. Adrian is a stud, but he'll have to be with an untested OL. The D is mostly Seniors and looks really good with the DE Davis Twins and the 340 lb Daniel brothers at NT.
We will definitely see how this plays out. A few of you guys are on the Jojo Domann bandwagon and a few (myself included) are on Caleb Tannors bandwagon. Mo Barry was even raven about Tannor today. Like most, I’m not sold on Alex Davis...MAYBE Domann or Tannor can take one side and Tannor the other? Last year they where listed on opposite sides...why not this year?
Raven? Autocorrect is a bitch sometimes.We will definitely see how this plays out. A few of you guys are on the Jojo Domann bandwagon and a few (myself included) are on Caleb Tannors bandwagon. Mo Barry was even raven about Tannor today. Like most, I’m not sold on Alex Davis...MAYBE Domann or Tannor can take one side and Tannor the other? Last year they where listed on opposite sides...why not this year?
Davis and Ferguson are a bit bigger than Caleb and Jojo, Garrett is also on the Davis/Ferg side and he goes 260. The OLB spots are not necessarily interchangeable.
Garrett Nelson is a beast. I wouldn't be surprised if he won the starting role by the end of the year. I see him as an all conference type player and maybe even more than that. It's kind of easy to write off being tough and aggressive as a reason to get playing time, but there's actually very few players that truly have that. Nelson just has it at a different level already.Davis and Ferguson are a bit bigger than Caleb and Jojo, Garrett is also on the Davis/Ferg side and he goes 260. The OLB spots are not necessarily interchangeable.
I think too much is made of boundary or field side sometimes. If you're an OLB or even a CB, you should be developing the skills to play both sides.They aren't interchangeable at all
Big difference between Boundary and Field LB positions
I think too much is made of boundary or field side sometimes. If you're an OLB or even a CB, you should be developing the skills to play both sides.
CB I agree, OLB in a 3-4, I do not agree, not unless you are getting 6'-3"-6'5" 260 lb dudes that can rush the passer, cover a tight end, set the edge against the run and drop down to a 3 point stance and play DE. Not a ton of those dudes running around.
CB I agree, OLB in a 3-4, I do not agree, not unless you are getting 6'-3"-6'5" 260 lb dudes that can rush the passer, cover a tight end, set the edge against the run and drop down to a 3 point stance and play DE. Not a ton of those dudes running around.
more difficult scheme to recruit to : 4-3 vs 3-4??
are 4-3 DEs easier to recruit than 3-4 OLBs?
Tough question. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and both have positions that are tough to recruit to.
To answer your question, I say yes 4-3 DEs are probably more plentiful than 3-4 OLBs, but filling the two DTs is more difficult than only getting 1 NT.
I think getting the guy that can take on blocks, set the edge, and fill a gap (4-3 DE) is easier to get than finding the guy that can cover, and not get lost in coverage with the speed of a slot or RB, not get blocked by a RB, TE etc.
They put Cam at “or” with Lamar bc he already has better cover, ball and tackling skills than Lamar; just needs game experience. He is the real deal. Will be all conference his JR and SR year.Tannor was the biggest surprise to me. JoJo being hurt gave him the opportunity. I do think that the OLB depth chart is about as fluid as any position on the team. They have a lot to prove, and practice isn't enough. They'll have to put it on game film. But it's a big chance for Tannor, and everyone has says he has talent. Big-time recruit.
Cam Taylor being "OR" with Jackson. They had to put Cam someplace. If they listed DBs 1-5 I don't think Cam would be 5. They just don't list nickel on the depth chart. I think maybe putting him as an "OR" to Jackson may just say more about where he'll end up next season, probably starting at CB instead of Safety.
The one observation I had which I haven't seen much comment about is Mike Williams. Moving up, as another of the "OR"s. After last season, I wasn't sure he'd see the field again, but it looks like he's going to be a big part of the rotation. There's talk about Andre Hunt disappearing, but I think some of the veterans just stepped it up. I think we'll see Andre before the year's up as long as he sticks it out.
Hell yeah..more difficult scheme to recruit to : 4-3 vs 3-4??
are 4-3 DEs easier to recruit than 3-4 OLBs?
Raven? Autocorrect is a bitch sometimes.